cowboy cookie returns? Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Absolutely this. The demise I'd exactly pinpoint to when SkySports came on board. No blame at all is to be put on them by the way, it was the promoters just totally mismanaged the whole thing, over paying rider's, not securing their own stadia etc. Zero future planning went in to the sport to which it really should have hit it's peak. Current 80's standard stadia conditions, mismanagement etc the sport remains as a £10-£15 sport but due to economics the price has to be higher. British Speedway is now in a rock n' a hard place in balancing VFM & unfortunately, it's no longer in the favour of the fan. The demise started long before Sky came on board. The top flight has been in trouble since the mid/late 80s. Sky was the golden egg that should have sparked a new dawn but was completely mis managed by the powers that be. The demise has accelerated over the last 20 years but can be traced way back to the 80s 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: The demise started long before Sky came on board. The top flight has been in trouble since the mid/late 80s. Sky was the golden egg that should have sparked a new dawn but was completely mis managed by the powers that be. The demise has accelerated over the last 20 years but can be traced way back to the 80s Totally agree thinking back to the 80s points limit was 50or 52 ? now the limit isn’t even a win 46 that’s how much speedway year on year has been run into the ground - sky sports money was wasted and what I see as what could have been the great relaunch was after the covid season that was the last chance saloon and what they do carry on as before . Buster might have his faults but as Bagpuss has said he saved KL not just the once but several times if he wasn’t around now after Brady walked out what would happen now ?? Edited June 15, 2023 by Haza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9 Lion Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: The demise started long before Sky came on board. The top flight has been in trouble since the mid/late 80s. Sky was the golden egg that should have sparked a new dawn but was completely mis managed by the powers that be. The demise has accelerated over the last 20 years but can be traced way back to the 80s I didnt start watching speedway until 1984, which is bad timing for a kid from Leicester. I dont think I have ever seen the Golden Era or even good times. Certain events boosted clubs in the short term, Henka signing for the Starts in late 91 resulted in me doing the A47 dash on Saturday nights in the Summer for a few seasons. Leicester coming back in 2011 was another event that gave the sport in the midlands a short term boost. I was up at Workington last weekend and their stadium set up is the future in the UK. Brownfield site, out of town centre. Limited perm facilities but enought to make it an enjoyable afternoon. Reminded me a a smaller scale Swedish stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Speedtiger said: Chapman owns the clubs and he is responsible full stop. somone should do there home work maybe read up . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Speedtiger said: That’s all well and good but that doesn’t excuse Chapman for his total incompetence in overseeing the demise of speedway during his time at BSPA and with what is happening at KL and Boro now! He’s is utterly useless and true fans will realise that… they are not stupid. you know he saved 3 club right not including kings lynn ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 After loosing Fred today if anyone can sort the club it will be Buster . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: The demise started long before Sky came on board. The top flight has been in trouble since the mid/late 80s. Sky was the golden egg that should have sparked a new dawn but was completely mis managed by the powers that be. The demise has accelerated over the last 20 years but can be traced way back to the 80s That's exactly my point. The 80s had hard times but the sport was highly sustainable, still attractive to new owners with decent crowds & riders. The introduction of SkySports should have stabilised & elevated the sport. The promoters failed to future proof with it's largest income in the sports history. Many many other sports have gone to new levels due to TV & sponsorship income, but Speedway thought it best to follow the crowd & did it's own thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStarsFan91 Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 I wonder how long Rob Lyon is going to "guest" as manager for?... he's obviously leaving Panthers and joining us, so why not just announce it? Haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klstarsfan Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Johnathan walking about tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 At least you have Artem Laguta to watch it could be worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Suggestions elsewhere is that Pickering is in at Sheffield in place of Bellago....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Suggestions elsewhere is that Pickering is in at Sheffield in place of Bellago....... Would be the right thing for Pickering & Sheffield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Just now, Daniel Smith said: Would be the right thing for Pickering & Sheffield. Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 My fear once Alex left was that Josh wouldn't return, will be interesting to see what happens. He'll obviously get more £'s at Owlerton and his main motivation to come back to Lynn has now gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: My fear once Alex left was that Josh wouldn't return, will be interesting to see what happens. He'll obviously get more £'s at Owlerton and his main motivation to come back to Lynn has now gone. He also lives in Doncaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 Pickering may go to Sheffield it all depends on the rules though.Im sure he will be back at Lynn if the rule which doesn't allow you to re introduce a rider back in your team goes to the "best interests of speedway",where that would allow him back at Lynn. Don't think where he lives has any bearing on where he goes,after all riders come from everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, tellboy said: Pickering may go to Sheffield it all depends on the rules though.Im sure he will be back at Lynn if the rule which doesn't allow you to re introduce a rider back in your team goes to the "best interests of speedway",where that would allow him back at Lynn. Don't think where he lives has any bearing on where he goes,after all riders come from everywhere. Surely you can get him back when the reason is injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Flappy said: He also lives in Doncaster 4 hrs to Lynn or 40 minutes to Sheffield - easy decision! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said: 4 hrs to Lynn or 40 minutes to Sheffield - easy decision! More like 2 but I take your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: More like 2 but I take your point traffic dependent, I do love Norfolk as a destination butt he only times I have been there it takes me 4 hrs from Sheffield usually - going slightly further than Lynn to Trimingham / coast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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