Fortythirtyeight Posted Tuesday at 11:04 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:04 AM 1 hour ago, *JJ said: If he wants to start riding, there is amateur speedway? He wants a ‘ JOB ‘……that pays ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted Tuesday at 11:09 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:09 AM 4 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: He wants a ‘ JOB ‘……that pays ! He has got to still be Champ Level even now ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_minall Posted Tuesday at 11:43 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:43 AM Regardless of whether he has apologised or not, it's completely up to the general public as to whether they support his reintroduction to speedway or not. I think personally a lot of promoters will be prepared to give him a wide berth just purely because it could damage attendance if a convicted felon signs for a team. Speedway as a whole in this country operates on a bare bones level (give or take a handful of genuinely well supported teams) so in my opinion it's just too risky to give him a shot. Think of it from this perspective, if he applied for a job in a supermarket and they rejected him because of his past, would you be surprised? I wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted Tuesday at 12:37 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:37 PM 52 minutes ago, Dave_minall said: Regardless of whether he has apologised or not, it's completely up to the general public as to whether they support his reintroduction to speedway or not. I think personally a lot of promoters will be prepared to give him a wide berth just purely because it could damage attendance if a convicted felon signs for a team. Speedway as a whole in this country operates on a bare bones level (give or take a handful of genuinely well supported teams) so in my opinion it's just too risky to give him a shot. Think of it from this perspective, if he applied for a job in a supermarket and they rejected him because of his past, would you be surprised? I wouldn't. Rejected because of his past? Is that legal to say that or just not suitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanUgest Posted Tuesday at 12:41 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:41 PM James Timpson is a multi millionaire through giving people like JG another chance! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted Tuesday at 01:07 PM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 01:07 PM 25 minutes ago, BryanUgest said: James Timpson is a multi millionaire through giving people like JG another chance! Let Garritty work for Timpson then 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted Tuesday at 03:06 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:06 PM 2 hours ago, BryanUgest said: James Timpson is a multi millionaire through giving people like JG another chance! You've just nailed it with a way to save British Speedway & lower the British Crime population. Just make the teams up of ex-cons, lets them just go for it & all kill themselves, have more room in prisons for more serious crimes. Brilliant stuff 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Tuesday at 03:11 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:11 PM 3 hours ago, Dave_minall said: Regardless of whether he has apologised or not, it's completely up to the general public as to whether they support his reintroduction to speedway or not. I think personally a lot of promoters will be prepared to give him a wide berth just purely because it could damage attendance if a convicted felon signs for a team. Speedway as a whole in this country operates on a bare bones level (give or take a handful of genuinely well supported teams) so in my opinion it's just too risky to give him a shot. Think of it from this perspective, if he applied for a job in a supermarket and they rejected him because of his past, would you be surprised? I wouldn't. Not allowed to do so.... I took on many "criminals" for my supermarkets all around the country... As long as they informed me about their past history then they fulfilled the criteria for a job... If they didn't let me know, and I found out later, then, legally, I could dismiss them for failing to declare such information... When you have served your time then you are as equal as everyone else... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted Tuesday at 03:24 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:24 PM 11 minutes ago, mikebv said: Not allowed to do so.... I took on many "criminals" for my supermarkets all around the country... As long as they informed me about their past history then they fulfilled the criteria for a job... If they didn't let me know, and I found out later, then, legally, I could dismiss them for failing to declare such information... When you have served your time then you are as equal as everyone else... I once had to make a decision on employing someone who had a spent conviction - he was upfront about it, as required, very concerned that we might withdraw the offer of a job, we employed him. Its down to the individuals concerned I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanUgest Posted Tuesday at 03:26 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:26 PM 15 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: You've just nailed it with a way to save British Speedway & lower the British Crime population. Just make the teams up of ex-cons, lets them just go for it & all kill themselves, have more room in prisons for more serious crimes. Brilliant stuff 👍🏻 WTF! just merely responded to someone who said Supermarket's won't touch ex-cons by pointing out that Timpson's business model is to do so and he's one of the UK's wealthiest men! Personally, I don't give a flying f'k if Garrity is back in speedway or not, if someone chooses to give him a chance good luck to them, there are plenty of wrong un's involved in the sport on and off the track already! 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_minall Posted yesterday at 09:26 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:26 AM 18 hours ago, mikebv said: Not allowed to do so.... I took on many "criminals" for my supermarkets all around the country... As long as they informed me about their past history then they fulfilled the criteria for a job... If they didn't let me know, and I found out later, then, legally, I could dismiss them for failing to declare such information... When you have served your time then you are as equal as everyone else... As far as I know as he has an unspent conviction it IS legal to refuse employment, but I may be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted yesterday at 09:30 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:30 AM 2 minutes ago, Dave_minall said: As far as I know as he has an unspent conviction it IS legal to refuse employment, but I may be wrong. There are certain stipulations... Working with kids isn't allowed for those convicted of sexual crimes against them for example... Riding a Speedway Bike again won't have too many stipulations I would imagine... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted yesterday at 09:42 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:42 AM 13 minutes ago, Dave_minall said: As far as I know as he has an unspent conviction it IS legal to refuse employment, but I may be wrong. Yes, generally you can refuse to employ someone with an unspent conviction, as it's not considered discrimination under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974. But to be fair, it would be good if such matters were judged on a case by case basis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted yesterday at 10:06 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:06 AM 14 minutes ago, 1 valve said: Yes, generally you can refuse to employ someone with an unspent conviction, as it's not considered discrimination under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974. But to be fair, it would be good if such matters were judged on a case by case basis. Parole Officers too, will be involved... I worked alongside them until all "time served" was spent... Curfews, Tags, etc needed to be discussed given the late hours some of my staff would work... No condoning what he did in any way shape or form, however, someone addicted to "Class A" drugs will truly do almost anything to get their hands on the money to fund their habit.. I had some truly horrific stories from lads I took on as to the depths they reached, with, to be honest, their home backgrounds and their ultimate recovery being truly humbling for me given the challenges they faced "getting clean"... There truly is an incredible "dark sub culture" in the country which, having worked with plenty of social workers too over the years, is far more prevalent than most, who live well outside this world, would ever imagine.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_minall Posted yesterday at 11:15 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:15 AM 1 hour ago, mikebv said: There are certain stipulations... Working with kids isn't allowed for those convicted of sexual crimes against them for example... Riding a Speedway Bike again won't have too many stipulations I would imagine... Yeah it's a grey area. He's technically self employed as well so it's not even as if he's being "hired" in the traditional sense so I've NO idea what the rules are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago Looks like there has been a rule written specifically for Jason Garrity Any british rider returning to the sport gets an 8pc reduction in his average PER YEAR absent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, castrolargh said: Looks like there has been a rule written specifically for Jason Garrity Any british rider returning to the sport gets an 8pc reduction in his average PER YEAR absent And Zach Wajtknecht? Both haven’t ridden since 2019 Edited 19 hours ago by Marksman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, castrolargh said: Looks like there has been a rule written specifically for Jason Garrity Any british rider returning to the sport gets an 8pc reduction in his average PER YEAR absent 1 hour ago, Marksman said: And Zach Wajtknecht? Both haven’t ridden since 2019 @THE DEAN MACHINE 👀 If you signed for Leicester we'd have been able to fit Max Fricke in!!! 😉😂 Edited 17 hours ago by IainB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspman Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) Timpson isn't that a shoe repair business 🤔 Edited 4 hours ago by Waspman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piston197 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 51 minutes ago, Waspman said: Timpson isn't that a shoe repair business 🤔 and locksmiths, car keys etc. possibly a transferable skill for some cons ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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