THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 4 minutes ago, HGould said: Dean, I massively respect your opinion. In this instance i'll have to agree to disagree given there is a big difference between a "training track" scenario and a full scale Speedway Fixture held under the governance of SCB / BSPL that requires the Promoting Company to be an Active Registered Company under valid Companies House authorisation If northside training track ltd were the promotion and has been wound up the bspl/scb and all the relevant authorities would of known and the meeting wouldn’t of took place, so either they are not the promotion or a new company has been formed in place of it and the necessary change of paperwork to facilitate hasn’t been completed for the visas, whatever the reason the overriding factor in all this is money and when you get a crowd of 250 that’s when alarm bells ring out, I’m not privi to the finances of Workington or any track but from what I see there and hear from the horses mouth if you can’t make Workington work where can you make it work ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 39 minutes ago, Marky_Mark said: You don’t dissolve companies just to “change it’s name” Looking at the filing history the last accounts filed were for the year ended 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 9 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: If northside training track ltd were the promotion and has been wound up the bspl/scb and all the relevant authorities would of known and the meeting wouldn’t of took place, so either they are not the promotion or a new company has been formed in place of it and the necessary change of paperwork to facilitate hasn’t been completed for the visas, whatever the reason the overriding factor in all this is money and when you get a crowd of 250 that’s when alarm bells ring out, I’m not privi to the finances of Workington or any track but from what I see there and hear from the horses mouth if you can’t make Workington work where can you make it work ? I think 250 is a bit off the mark,but 3pm on a sat is not ideal for alot of fans . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 (edited) 2 minutes ago, geoff100 said: I think 250 is a bit off the mark,but 3pm on a sat is not ideal for alot of fans . It was 450 the meeting before but I’m told it was 250 v Plymouth but either crowd isn’t enough Edited June 28 by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 Just now, geoff100 said: I think 250 is a bit off the mark,but 3pm on a sat is not ideal for alot of fans . ... yet many footy fans bemoan the lack of Saturday 3pm kick offs 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 Just now, IainB said: ... yet many footy fans bemoan the lack of Saturday 3pm kick offs 🤷♂️ But speedway is better for me in the evenings ,better under lights but we aint got any. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, IainB said: ... yet many footy fans bemoan the lack of Saturday 3pm kick offs 🤷♂️ Maybe sat 3pm is a factor, lack of continuity but overall the biggest factor is price and it’s happening everywhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: It was 450 the meeting before but I’m told it was 250 v Plymouth but either crowd isn’t enough Seem to remember steve saying they needed 500 to make it pay ,why do people stop going the racing is top notch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 (edited) On examining the records at Companies House it is interesting to note that striking off the company was listed in the London Gazette on 1 April 2025 (no joke). In the circumstances this company should not have been used to promote Workington Speedway this season let alone since 17 June 2025 when it was struck off. Edited June 28 by WembleyLion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Maybe sat 3pm is a factor, lack of continuity but overall the biggest factor is price and it’s happening everywhere 13 hts and a good second half worked for years why was it changed? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Groove Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 5 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: It was 450 the meeting before but I’m told it was 250 v Plymouth but either crowd isn’t enough Rain starting just before Plymouth meeting will definitely have put a few off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, geoff100 said: But speedway is better for me in the evenings ,better under lights but we aint got any. 100% 👍🏻 Maybe 6pm starts in the summer could be an option? I know it's still not under lights but maybe add a few quid onto the burger and beer sales. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, geoff100 said: Seem to remember steve saying they needed 500 to make it pay ,why do people stop going the racing is top notch Because they put off by price when times are tough and once they out of the habit they tend to stay out 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, geoff100 said: 13 hts and a good second half worked for years why was it changed? That’s rose tinted glasses I’m afraid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 3 minutes ago, geoff100 said: why do people stop going the racing is top notch Belle Vue have the same issue, although I'm not totally onboard with what @THE DEAN MACHINE says regarding pricing, I think it's certainly a factor and vfm is very much an issue. The cup semi final at Sheffield on Thursday night was pretty well attended by general crowd levels these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, IainB said: Belle Vue have the same issue, although I'm not totally onboard with what @THE DEAN MACHINE says regarding pricing, I think it's certainly a factor and vfm is very much an issue. The cup semi final at Sheffield on Thursday night was pretty well attended by general crowd levels these days. Picking and choosing meetings, Sheffield v liecester localish derby, attractive fixture ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Groove Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 3 minutes ago, geoff100 said: Seem to remember steve saying they needed 500 to make it pay ,why do people stop going the racing is top notch As others have said, interest has unfortunately dropped off this season as there's been lack of continuity due to a combination of rain offs and not enough teams in the league to sustain weekly fixtures, don't think Saturday afternoons and cost have much to do with it as plenty people seem to be able to put time and money aside to go to football/rugby, there's definitely a lack of reporting in local papers and TV compared to when the speedway was at Derwent Park, and maybe the location has something to do with it being 'out of the way'? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 (edited) 8 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Picking and choosing meetings, Sheffield v liecester localish derby, attractive fixture ? Absolutely, that's my point an attractive fixture can and will attract a crowd. I can see next year being 2 leagues, a north and a south Edited June 28 by IainB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 13 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Because they put off by price when times are tough and once they out of the habit they tend to stay out I drive coaches in area comets flag in the coach people cant miss it,if everyone who says to me they used to go to comets in the past turned up one sat they wouldnt get in northside or derwent park ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 (edited) Cost is a factor 20 quid don't sound much But a family can be 50 quid plus extras burgers ice cream Not many family's can afford that on regular basis Need to make kids as cheap as possible they are future paying fans Has anyone thought or found if there's 2 company's Training track and speedway as separate im sure it's not uncommon to run as 2 separate But id be more inclined that it is something more like this paperwork as non payment as non payment in speedway is more common than some like to admit or to be a bit more fair payment on time Edited June 28 by scaramanga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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