BluPanther Posted Tuesday at 03:22 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:22 PM It makes perfect sense to me. What does everyone think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted Tuesday at 03:39 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:39 PM Unless someone moves up it will be a 6 team Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Roads Posted Tuesday at 03:51 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:51 PM Have to agree. Its ok thinking its great when your team hammers the opponent week in week out and yes all start the season with the same points options so sell done to those who built there teams but is no spectacle for any fans in truth of the sport. Those teams who are losing also lose crowds that is never good for the wider sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted Tuesday at 03:59 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:59 PM 2 minutes ago, Cross Roads said: Have to agree. Its ok thinking its great when your team hammers the opponent week in week out and yes all start the season with the same points options so sell done to those who built there teams but is no spectacle for any fans in truth of the sport. Those teams who are losing also lose crowds that is never good for the wider sport. You're completely right of course. Unfortunately there is a significant percentage that enjoy watching their team get 5-1 after 5-1. I've subscribed to a full BSN pass this year (for the first time) so I've been watching a lot of speedway, much of it as a neutral. As others have noted, there has been too many one sided meetings this year. Not what I call entertaining "racing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Tuesday at 04:08 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:08 PM (edited) Come 2026 the sport is going to have more worrying things than rules and team numbers to worry about Edited Tuesday at 04:09 PM by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted Tuesday at 05:27 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:27 PM 1 hour ago, Cross Roads said: Have to agree. Its ok thinking its great when your team hammers the opponent week in week out and yes all start the season with the same points options so sell done to those who built there teams but is no spectacle for any fans in truth of the sport. Those teams who are losing also lose crowds that is never good for the wider sport. It’s always been the case. Never been a fan of bowing to the lowest common denominator and dumbing down the product just so there won’t be strugglers at the bottom. Poole always dominated in the top league and always had the best riders for years. We had the Kings Lynn fan the other day saying they battered everyone in the second tier every single week so it happens in a lower quality league as well. Some would rather drive out the likes of Sayfutdinov and Kurtz so the teams are more equal but that is bonkers. Imagine Poland saying the top boys aren’t riding there anymore because there’s a few struggling teams at the bottom. 1 hour ago, False dawn said: You're completely right of course. Unfortunately there is a significant percentage that enjoy watching their team get 5-1 after 5-1. I've subscribed to a full BSN pass this year (for the first time) so I've been watching a lot of speedway, much of it as a neutral. As others have noted, there has been too many one sided meetings this year. Not what I call entertaining "racing". No he isn’t completely right. The teams at the top will still hammer those near the bottom because if it’s six man teams, they’ll still have the best six riders! If it’s 5 man teams, they’ll have the best 5 riders. It won’t make a jot of difference. You’re always going to have successful teams, and non successful teams. Unlike other sports we do have a points limit in place to try and keep things as even as possible, is there anything remotely similar in other sports that want to be taken seriously? We do have an issue with the top league at present and there seem to be reasons for that. Birmingham weren’t even sure to be running this year because of financial issues, so they’re obviously not at all equipped to be in the top tier. The race night issue was clearly a problem for them as well so that was a factor. Oxford might be struggling because they’ve spread themselves a bit thin running in three leagues. That’s their prerogative of course and they chose to do that. The other 5 teams are all competitive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted Tuesday at 05:52 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:52 PM 20 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: It’s always been the case. Never been a fan of bowing to the lowest common denominator and dumbing down the product just so there won’t be strugglers at the bottom. Poole always dominated in the top league and always had the best riders for years. We had the Kings Lynn fan the other day saying they battered everyone in the second tier every single week so it happens in a lower quality league as well. Some would rather drive out the likes of Sayfutdinov and Kurtz so the teams are more equal but that is bonkers. Imagine Poland saying the top boys aren’t riding there anymore because there’s a few struggling teams at the bottom. No he isn’t completely right. The teams at the top will still hammer those near the bottom because if it’s six man teams, they’ll still have the best six riders! If it’s 5 man teams, they’ll have the best 5 riders. It won’t make a jot of difference. You’re always going to have successful teams, and non successful teams. Unlike other sports we do have a points limit in place to try and keep things as even as possible, is there anything remotely similar in other sports that want to be taken seriously? We do have an issue with the top league at present and there seem to be reasons for that. Birmingham weren’t even sure to be running this year because of financial issues, so they’re obviously not at all equipped to be in the top tier. The race night issue was clearly a problem for them as well so that was a factor. Oxford might be struggling because they’ve spread themselves a bit thin running in three leagues. That’s their prerogative of course and they chose to do that. The other 5 teams are all competitive. As much as I want to say King’s Lynn are competitive, we’re really not. We have a strong home advantage (unless we face Ipswich) and may win 8-9/12 of our home meetings, but we struggle big time away. This in turn leads us not winning many aggregate bonus points and being well adrift of the play-offs. As mentioned by others on other threads, there is a big divide in the league: 1. Ipswich 2. Sheffield 3. Belle Vue 4. Leicester 5. King’s Lyn 6. Birmingham 7. Oxford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Tuesday at 05:56 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:56 PM I've been saying this for a while... maybe even 5 man teams. Can't be doing with what they did before though back in the day when they had that "ghost" rider, wouldn't want to see that back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Tuesday at 05:56 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:56 PM 2 hours ago, heathen52 said: Unless someone moves up it will be a 6 team Premiership. Doesn't that breach the TV contract... if there is one next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Tuesday at 06:01 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:01 PM 31 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: Unlike other sports we do have a points limit in place to try and keep things as even as possible, is there anything remotely similar in other sports that want to be taken seriously? F1 has a cost cap that teams have to operate within. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Tuesday at 07:39 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:39 PM 3 hours ago, heathen52 said: Unless someone moves up it will be a 6 team Premiership. Don’t bank on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Tuesday at 07:41 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:41 PM (edited) Wrong section Edited Tuesday at 07:44 PM by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted Tuesday at 08:46 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:46 PM 5 hours ago, heathen52 said: Unless someone moves up it will be a 6 team Premiership. Can only see Glasgow being able to afford that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted Tuesday at 10:04 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:04 PM 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Don’t bank on it Could be 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifesto Posted Wednesday at 01:05 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:05 AM 3 hours ago, noaksey said: Could be 5 Who we losing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted Wednesday at 06:12 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:12 AM To be honest watering the product down & changing to 6 man teams isn’t the answer & similar ideas over the years are proof of that. To grow the sport its needs to attract the best & to be an ever improving product, the race to the bottom via diluting the product will only see the sport dye. Having said that with it looking certain that Birmingham will be no more at the end of this season & now question marks around Sheffield it does make you wonder if it’s all to late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted Wednesday at 06:12 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:12 AM 5 hours ago, Manifesto said: Who we losing? Birmingham & maybe Sheffield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted Wednesday at 07:09 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:09 AM 55 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: Birmingham & maybe Sheffield Sheffield??! ( i was thinking Oxford might drop the Prem). What's going on there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted Wednesday at 07:46 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:46 AM 35 minutes ago, LisaColette said: Sheffield??! ( i was thinking Oxford might drop the Prem). What's going on there? New stadium owners already kicked out stock cars only speedway running there be lucky to survive only sport being run there 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted Wednesday at 08:10 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:10 AM 22 minutes ago, AceBelle said: New stadium owners already kicked out stock cars only speedway running there be lucky to survive only sport being run there 🤔 I thought Owlerton Stadium was still owned by A&S Leisure ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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