Poole vs Oxford BSN 07/05/25

[ASpeedwayfan]

Poor from Poole and well done to Oxford. 
Kerr continues to disappoints as does Starke. Surely there’s a better rider in the national league than Marson. He’s no where near the pace. And I don’t see him beating an opposing rider unless that rider hits the deck. 
 

Hugely disappointed that Masters was allowed to move at the start of the all important heat 15. Blatantly moved and all of us in the stand saw it, could not believe the ref didn’t put his red lights on as Masters then made the gate. Shocking from the ref but a deserved loss from the 4 man team pirates 

[foreverblue]

26 minutes ago, LisaColette said:

I thought that as well. Would have been better to take a reserve out and put Lawson in. 

Yes agreed should have done it in heat 7. Also we had riders off form, Tobias was poor as was Starke, Kerr unlucky in his first ride with bike issues then won a race, poor last 2 rides.

[tyler42]

1 hour ago, szkocjasid said:

I was almost about to compliment Schroeck till I saw he replaced McDiarmid with Killeen in heat 12. McDiarmid had just got a 5-1 in heat 11 & scored 9+1 from 4 rides, beating Starke, Marson (2), Lawson, Cook & Kerr.

While Killeen had scored 3+1 from 3 rides beating Starke & Marson (2).

Was Schroeck trying to throw it away?

Luckily for him Oxford still won.

It's hard to fathom what goes through Schorecks head. McDiarmid was on fire wheras Killeen beat Marson and Stark. He gave McDiamid only five rides,. The same as Killeen. The man has no idea. It's every meeting he has a shocker. As you said. they won, but surely it's time for Courtney and co to get rid. He even had a go back at fans for a decision he made the other week. The man is a buffoon!

[Gavan]

Firstly best wishes to Gilkes but how have Poole lost that to a 4 man team?

R/R , Gilkes injured and a nowhere near yet fit Jenkins yet still pulled it off 

Yes Masters rolled in 15 but look deeper why you lost the match 

The reserves are abysmal you can’t carry on like that 

Lewis Kerr was a poor signing although Lawson stuffed him up in one race … maybe top riders don’t want to ride for Poole I know Dan Thompson didn’t ….

Muddlo got the tac sub wrong should have been heat 7 and then put Cook in heat 15 instead of Rowe was a strange call 

 

[tyler42]

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32 minutes ago, ASpeedwayfan said:

Surely there’s a better rider in the national league than Marson. He’s no where near the pace. And I don’t see him beating an opposing rider unless that rider hits the deck. 

It's unfair on the rider(because he's not good enough) and it's unfair on the paying public. having to watch him being miles off the pace and coming last in every race. People are always saying Poole can spot a riders potential. Even though he's only going to be there a few months. Danny Ford has proved, he's not got much idea about speedway riders. Marson has been riding in this country since 2018. Thats eight seasons!!! He could have picked Connor Coles, Jack Smith. Not world beaters, but might have got the odd point. Very poor decision to sign Marson.

[szkocjasid]

2 minutes ago, tyler42 said:

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It's unfair on the rider(because he's not good enough) and it's unfair on the paying public. having to watch him being miles off the pace and coming last in every race. People are always saying Poole can spot a riders potential. Even though he's only going to be there a few months. Danny Ford has proved, he's not got much idea about speedway riders. Marson has been riding in this country since 2018. Thats eight seasons!!! He could have picked Connor Coles, Jack Smith. Not world beaters, but might have got the odd point. Very poor decision to sign Marson.

Neither of those riders would fit under the limit.

I don't think fans can criticise the Promotion unless they can name a better 2.00 rider.

In Marson's defence he's not ridden against a fellow 2 pointer this season. Both Oxford & Plymouth have strong reserves.

Biggest question mark for me is picking Starke ahead of Foord. Too early to say if they got it wrong, just yet.

[szkocjasid]

23 minutes ago, Gavan said:

Firstly best wishes to Gilkes but how have Poole lost that to a 4 man team?

R/R , Gilkes injured and a nowhere near yet fit Jenkins yet still pulled it off 

Yes Masters rolled in 15 but look deeper why you lost the match 

The reserves are abysmal you can’t carry on like that 

Lewis Kerr was a poor signing although Lawson stuffed him up in one race … maybe top riders don’t want to ride for Poole I know Dan Thompson didn’t ….

Muddlo got the tac sub wrong should have been heat 7 and then put Cook in heat 15 instead of Rowe was a strange call 

 

I thought the same thing too, replacing a second string rather than a reserve in the next heat made no sense to me. As they were 10 points down were guaranteed to be able to use a tac sub on heat 7.

[szkocjasid]

1 hour ago, Fromafar said:

Kerr and Starke not up to the job.

To be fair to Starke he's riding above his average this year.

[stevehone]

2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

though not confirmed, put his arm out and broke it.

worse

[Bagpuss]

6 hours ago, tyler42 said:

It's hard to fathom what goes through Schorecks head. McDiarmid was on fire wheras Killeen beat Marson and Stark. He gave McDiamid only five rides,. The same as Killeen. The man has no idea. It's every meeting he has a shocker. As you said. they won, but surely it's time for Courtney and co to get rid. He even had a go back at fans for a decision he made the other week. The man is a buffoon!

Playing Devil's Advocate, on this occasion  weren't Oxford pretty much through anyway even if they lost ie as best runner up (as Poole are now)? In which case no need to restrict Killeen's rides.

The bloke is obviously not a very good TM but sometimes he gets clog when its not necessarily warranted.

[Catalan]

7 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

First of all well done to Oxford. They started on fire and left us for dead out of the gate in the first half of the meeting.

What looked like an innocuous fall for Dan Gilkes turned into a very long break. He sort of slid off, but went over to his right and I believe, though not confirmed, put his arm out and broke it. He was on the track for a very long time and when moved, on an ambulance stretcher, was on a drip, breathing oxygen and holding his arm close to his chest.   Let’s all hope he has a speedy recovery.

The delay was frankly ridiculous. No county ambulance available. So the casualty had to be taken to hospital, 5 minutes away, then it too a while for the patient to be handed over before it could return. 
 

Pirates worked their way back into the meeting but Kerr’s throttle went the wrong way when on a 5-1 in heat 13. It ended up with us needing a 5-1 in heat 15 to force a draw, but Masters got a big roller and to the dismay of the crowd the ref let it go. Lawson got by on lap 3 but it was too much for Cook.

A few thoughts. Kerr is a terrible signing so far. Just not good enough. His bike packing up on the final bend cost us a draw, then he was picked of by an excellent McDiamond like he was standing still, then in heat 13 shut off when on a 5-1. The rest blew hot and cold. Believe changes will happen to this side, and I am not talking Cairns.

Special mention to McDiamond. Spoke to him before the meeting and he is a level headed young man and could be a future top Aussie. Very good signing who won’t be at reserve for long.

Steve where did you get your info from re arm injury?

You are guessing and that is a dangerous game.

[BackInTheDHSS]

58 minutes ago, Catalan said:

Steve where did you get your info from re arm injury?

You are guessing and that is a dangerous game.

Dangerous how? Is Dan Gilkes going to read it and be so surprised that he falls out of his hospital bed?

[szkocjasid]

1 hour ago, Bagpuss said:

Playing Devil's Advocate, on this occasion weren't Oxford pretty much through anyway even if they lost ie as best runner up (as Poole are now)? In which case no need to restrict Killeen's rides.

The bloke is obviously not a very good TM but sometimes he gets clog when its not necessarily warranted.

To me that would be even worse i.e "not caring about losing because you'll qualify anyway" I'm sure Oxford fans are delighted to win away at their rivals, so the TM should do his best to ensure that happens.

If they were 20 points in front of 20 points behind, then I'd accept that reasoning.

[Supersub]

9 hours ago, LisaColette said:

They don't do that anymore now Karl isn't the DJ. 

Music last night was terrible and much too loud.

Poor gating  and inconsistent performances by Poole. Better team won.

Its early days yet but Kerr and Starke disappoint but what are the alternatives? Marson completely out of his depth but who is able to replace him?

[Steve Shovlar]

I’m not sure posting that I thought Gilkes had a broken arm is “dangerous”. The fall didn’t look too bad from where we were sitting and we all expected him to get straight up. Clearly after a minute we all recognised it was more serious than that and when the ambulance came out we knew he had hurt himself. It took quite a while to treat him on the track and get him inside the ambulance, where we could see he was in pain, on a drip and taking oxygen. There wasn’t a single person in the stadium who didn’t applaud Dan and wish him the best.

Let’s see what the official statement brings. Hopefully not season ending.

[Bear_Bottom]

[lukeellis]

Does this mean Poole could be eliminated?I’m sure there is a scenario where both Redcar and Workington can beat Poole’s total of 5 points?Worky would have to win at Scunthorpe though,improbable I know! But?

[Steve Shovlar]

4 minutes ago, Supersub said:

Music last night was terrible and much too loud.

Poor gating  and inconsistent performances by Poole. Better team won.

Its early days yet but Kerr and Starke disappoint but what are the alternatives? Marson completely out of his depth but who is able to replace him?

Have to say for the first time in many seasons, Matt got the team building wrong. Had serious doubts before a wheel had turned but it’s clear to see that Starke, although hitting his average, has little to no drive and aggression in his racing today, and Kerr has been completely unreliable. We need to look overseas for a young rider on the up with some real aggression and ability. They are out there.

[LisaColette]

1 minute ago, lukeellis said:

Does this mean Poole could be eliminated?I’m sure there is a scenario where both Redcar and Workington can beat Poole’s total of 5 points?Worky would have to win at Scunthorpe though,improbable I know! But?

Looking at all the mini tables, Edinburgh could still get 5 also? Should be an interesting wait! 

[arnieg]

2 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Playing Devil's Advocate, on this occasion  weren't Oxford pretty much through anyway even if they lost ie as best runner up (as Poole are now)? In which case no need to restrict Killeen's rides.

The bloke is obviously not a very good TM but sometimes he gets clog when its not necessarily warranted.

No.

 

If Redcar get the bonus at Worky (quite likely), then it only requires a Worky win at Scunthorpe and Oxford would have been out had they lost