stevebrum Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 46 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: When/ where did blodorn pick up this knee injury ? I’ve not seen anything posted about this neither. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piepower Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 13 hours ago, Robinh88 said: Emil couldn't beat Jason Edwards earlier in the season at least he was competitive in every race today and looked decent yesterday against not very much. Enjoyed tonight Dan and Brady are cheat codes around the NSS. Very much improved showing after last week vs K Lynn. How is Paul Bowen still on BSN? Shame really BSN otherwise are doing a good job. Hi there , What seems to be the issue with myself. What's strange is i get people like yourself and others saying how they like my style , I suppose im a very marmite kind of guy. But any tips im open to hearing how i can keep everyone happy. Despite your gripe ive only done 3/4 meetings this year so don't worry you don't have to listen to me too much and luckly there are some other great hosts on the show too. Thanks for subscribing to the channel. Paul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Decent win from The Aces in a meeting that didn’t really spark until heat 8. Before that there was plenty of incident before B3 L1, if that floats your boat. Brady. My god he is good atm, amazing to watch given the right canvas. Norick. Averages over 6 at home and before last week 3 was his worst score v Wolves in 2022. 6 point swing in favour of the witches. Jaimon. Superb again as part of the toughest trio whether at home, away or combined (using BSPL 2025 figures). Zach. Quiet night but that what happens with number 4’s - consistent at being inconsistent. Dan is Dan - beautiful to watch. Tate. God loves a trier and he is definitely that but we don’t want an injury (legacy or current) denying us another title. 4.00’er or Antti. Jake. Probably the loveliest bloke in speedway. Great to see him mix it and scoring. Emil. Great to watch and frustrating for him to be up again the worlds 2 & 4. Danny. Seems his old self again and his heat 8 win was exceptional. Nice guys don’t always finish last. Adam. Solid score. Not a man to set the pulse racing, imo. Tom. What’s happening there - genuine question. His average has dropped from his excellent stint as a Brummie number 1. Love the guy and hope he gets his mojo back. Jason. Come back too soon but the pressure from a large section of UK fans to ride injured can be deafening, as we have experienced. Rest up Jason and go for it when fully fit. Dan. Expected more after his double figure return with Glasgow and at Foxhall where apart from Howarth in one heat, he was only beaten by the Lions top two. Jordan. RS away performance with a concerning spill. Hope he’s ok. Nicely poised for the bonus at a track we general go well at in the league, though with the set up this year we could loose 75-15 and still qualify for the play offs. I think we all feel like we’re treading water until September - not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 19 minutes ago, piepower said: Hi there , What seems to be the issue with myself. What's strange is i get people like yourself and others saying how they like my style , I suppose im a very marmite kind of guy. But any tips im open to hearing how i can keep everyone happy. Despite your gripe ive only done 3/4 meetings this year so don't worry you don't have to listen to me too much and luckly there are some other great hosts on the show too. Thanks for subscribing to the channel. Paul Hi Paul, Thank you for taking the time to reply. Each to their own I will take your word for the above as that is their rightful opinion. However I don't share that point of view which is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry1603 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 I enjoyed Emil's battles with Kurtz and Bewley. He's a classy rider and always leaves space for the other rider. A crying shame he's not allowed to perform on the world stage. Good win for Belle Vue, I won't deny that I was apprehensive beforehand, but a combination of Ipswich injuries and the Aces heat leaders being on fine form tipped the balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 1 hour ago, piepower said: how i can keep everyone happy. You can't, so don't even try, just do your own thing, you can't please all of the people all of the time. People will be crying out for individuality when everything is being presented by a Max Headroom (1980's reference) style ai bot 🤖. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 1 hour ago, ouch said: Decent win from The Aces in a meeting that didn’t really spark until heat 8. Before that there was plenty of incident before B3 L1, if that floats your boat. Brady. My god he is good atm, amazing to watch given the right canvas. Norick. Averages over 6 at home and before last week 3 was his worst score v Wolves in 2022. 6 point swing in favour of the witches. Jaimon. Superb again as part of the toughest trio whether at home, away or combined (using BSPL 2025 figures). Zach. Quiet night but that what happens with number 4’s - consistent at being inconsistent. Dan is Dan - beautiful to watch. Tate. God loves a trier and he is definitely that but we don’t want an injury (legacy or current) denying us another title. 4.00’er or Antti. Jake. Probably the loveliest bloke in speedway. Great to see him mix it and scoring. Emil. Great to watch and frustrating for him to be up again the worlds 2 & 4. Danny. Seems his old self again and his heat 8 win was exceptional. Nice guys don’t always finish last. Adam. Solid score. Not a man to set the pulse racing, imo. Tom. What’s happening there - genuine question. His average has dropped from his excellent stint as a Brummie number 1. Love the guy and hope he gets his mojo back. Jason. Come back too soon but the pressure from a large section of UK fans to ride injured can be deafening, as we have experienced. Rest up Jason and go for it when fully fit. Dan. Expected more after his double figure return with Glasgow and at Foxhall where apart from Howarth in one heat, he was only beaten by the Lions top two. Jordan. RS away performance with a concerning spill. Hope he’s ok. Nicely poised for the bonus at a track we general go well at in the league, though with the set up this year we could loose 75-15 and still qualify for the play offs. I think we all feel like we’re treading water until September - not good. Good decent post I have to say As an Ipswich fan I’m taking positives from the following Belle Vue heat leaders were awesome and in reality they can’t score much better Doyle with 3 and Dan with 2 can’t do any worse over 2 legs if we meet in the play offs and can lose by 8-10 at your place I’d be confident of overturning that at home Bewley and Kurtz are class but at Foxhall our riders are all capable of beating them as shown … that will never happen at the NSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 48 minutes ago, Garry1603 said: I enjoyed Emil's battles with Kurtz and Bewley. He's a classy rider and always leaves space for the other rider. A crying shame he's not allowed to perform on the world stage. Good win for Belle Vue, I won't deny that I was apprehensive beforehand, but a combination of Ipswich injuries and the Aces heat leaders being on fine form tipped the balance. Again a good reasoned post acknowledging the Belle Vue heat leaders and also our injuries 2 good sides and closely matched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 It all seems to be about the set up at the NSS. The Belle Vue trio of heat leaders are rarely on slower bikes, and in most cases they are considerably quicker. Whilst some of the racing is entertaining, this persistent home advantage makes it a bit too predictable for my liking 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piepower Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 3 hours ago, Robinh88 said: Hi Paul, Thank you for taking the time to reply. Each to their own I will take your word for the above as that is their rightful opinion. However I don't share that point of view which is fine. 100%! but as someone who always likes to improve no matter what I do, which is why I look on socials for feedback , I'm a believer in you get better by taking criticism. So if you have any feedback to improve your thoughts I would appreciate it. If you just don't like me i cant do much but i can always try a be a happy medium. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 2 hours ago, chun said: It all seems to be about the set up at the NSS. The Belle Vue trio of heat leaders are rarely on slower bikes, and in most cases they are considerably quicker. Whilst some of the racing is entertaining, this persistent home advantage makes it a bit too predictable for my liking The reason we do well at home is because we consistently put together strong sides and not due to this perceived home advantage. Since before the NSS came to be in 2016 we were a play off side and have maintained that for a remarkable run over the last decade. In 2016 we were the 4th best home team & the 1st best away side. 2016 4 & 1 2017 4 & 2 2018 j4 & j2 2019 j3 & j2 2021 4 & 3 2022 1 & 3 2023 2 & 1 2024 1 & 4 The play off participants win at home, but they are also successful away due to the strength of their squad. If we were always the best home side and consistently poor away then the home advantage theory would stand up but a cursory look at the records tells a different story. One thing that can be levelled at the NSS is that it is becoming increasingly insular in providing a race track with many different lines. We tend to have racers in the squad and recently this has had a detrimental effect on our away performances, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 52 minutes ago, piepower said: 100%! but as someone who always likes to improve no matter what I do, which is why I look on socials for feedback , I'm a believer in you get better by taking criticism. So if you have any feedback to improve your thoughts I would appreciate it. If you just don't like me i cant do much but i can always try a be a happy medium. I haven't seen any improvement Paul. Shame because otherwise I really rate BSN and what they are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ouch said: The reason we do well at home is because we consistently put together strong sides and not due to this perceived home advantage. Since before the NSS came to be in 2016 we were a play off side and have maintained that for a remarkable run over the last decade. In 2016 we were the 4th best home team & the 1st best away side. 2016 4 & 1 2017 4 & 2 2018 j4 & j2 2019 j3 & j2 2021 4 & 3 2022 1 & 3 2023 2 & 1 2024 1 & 4 The play off participants win at home, but they are also successful away due to the strength of their squad. If we were always the best home side and consistently poor away then the home advantage theory would stand up but a cursory look at the records tells a different story. One thing that can be levelled at the NSS is that it is becoming increasingly insular in providing a race track with many different lines. We tend to have racers in the squad and recently this has had a detrimental effect on our away performances, sadly. Interesting stats that illustrate in recent seasons that the aces home advantage has grown. The races with Emil last night were good examples of where it is difficult for away riders to defend safely as the track is so wide. The NSS is more akin to long track racing. Edited July 1 by chun 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 3 hours ago, chun said: It all seems to be about the set up at the NSS. The Belle Vue trio of heat leaders are rarely on slower bikes, and in most cases they are considerably quicker. Whilst some of the racing is entertaining, this persistent home advantage makes it a bit too predictable for my liking As a neutral I love watching the racing at NSS, particularly as Bewley often misses the gate and has to work his way through- Kurtz maybe less so, but last night's race with Emil showed what he can do. However, the races behind the leader are often worth the entrance fee alone and that is frequently the place to pay attention. In recent seasons my main watching has been at Oxford, which can be entertaining. This year following a move Birmingham is my local club. Now, I don't want to kick a club when they are down, but the quality of racing is not as good. If a rider gates and doesn't move from tbe inside line there is very little chance of a pass. If the NSS produces predictable racing then that will do for me and I wish I could go more often 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 43 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: As a neutral I love watching the racing at NSS, particularly as Bewley often misses the gate and has to work his way through- Kurtz maybe less so, but last night's race with Emil showed what he can do. However, the races behind the leader are often worth the entrance fee alone and that is frequently the place to pay attention. In recent seasons my main watching has been at Oxford, which can be entertaining. This year following a move Birmingham is my local club. Now, I don't want to kick a club when they are down, but the quality of racing is not as good. If a rider gates and doesn't move from tbe inside line there is very little chance of a pass. If the NSS produces predictable racing then that will do for me and I wish I could go more often One of the key strengths is riders being in contention for four laps... As you say, that can be just racing closely for a point... If you build momentum for a couple of laps (what Kurtz and Bewley do brilliantly), you can make up some serious ground on an opponent, and be going quicker when you reach them... Scunthorpe, Redcar, Workington and Glasgow appear to be similar... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 3 hours ago, Sir Sidney said: As a neutral I love watching the racing at NSS, particularly as Bewley often misses the gate and has to work his way through- Kurtz maybe less so, but last night's race with Emil showed what he can do. However, the races behind the leader are often worth the entrance fee alone and that is frequently the place to pay attention. In recent seasons my main watching has been at Oxford, which can be entertaining. This year following a move Birmingham is my local club. Now, I don't want to kick a club when they are down, but the quality of racing is not as good. If a rider gates and doesn't move from tbe inside line there is very little chance of a pass. If the NSS produces predictable racing then that will do for me and I wish I could go more often I find the NSS like a faster Scuntthorpe - nearly always decent passing opportunities and they allow the racer to go flat out which is what i prefer - if only all tracks were like this! Sheffield used to be like this but is now too narrow IMHO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 The reason Belle Vue are successful at home is because of home advantage, every team has home Advantage it is not something that needs defending. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 12 hours ago, ouch said: Decent win from The Aces in a meeting that didn’t really spark until heat 8. Before that there was plenty of incident before B3 L1, if that floats your boat. Brady. My god he is good atm, amazing to watch given the right canvas. Norick. Averages over 6 at home and before last week 3 was his worst score v Wolves in 2022. 6 point swing in favour of the witches. Jaimon. Superb again as part of the toughest trio whether at home, away or combined (using BSPL 2025 figures). Zach. Quiet night but that what happens with number 4’s - consistent at being inconsistent. Dan is Dan - beautiful to watch. Tate. God loves a trier and he is definitely that but we don’t want an injury (legacy or current) denying us another title. 4.00’er or Antti. Jake. Probably the loveliest bloke in speedway. Great to see him mix it and scoring. Emil. Great to watch and frustrating for him to be up again the worlds 2 & 4. Danny. Seems his old self again and his heat 8 win was exceptional. Nice guys don’t always finish last. Adam. Solid score. Not a man to set the pulse racing, imo. Tom. What’s happening there - genuine question. His average has dropped from his excellent stint as a Brummie number 1. Love the guy and hope he gets his mojo back. Jason. Come back too soon but the pressure from a large section of UK fans to ride injured can be deafening, as we have experienced. Rest up Jason and go for it when fully fit. Dan. Expected more after his double figure return with Glasgow and at Foxhall where apart from Howarth in one heat, he was only beaten by the Lions top two. Jordan. RS away performance with a concerning spill. Hope he’s ok. Nicely poised for the bonus at a track we general go well at in the league, though with the set up this year we could loose 75-15 and still qualify for the play offs. I think we all feel like we’re treading water until September - not good. Very good post. I wonder of Belle Vie will replace Zischke this year, they've been patient with him, but really need a stronger reserve to challenge for the title imo. For Brennan, has he stalled in Britain this year because he's in such a good team he doesn't have to go well to win, compared to last year, when he needed to be amazing to avoid heavy defeats. Maybe a lack of pressure isn't working for him? For the last paragraph, that's the problem with the play-offs, Ipswich & Belle Vue clashing, doesn't excite me, it's what happens in the play-offs that matters. For that reason I found Birmingham vs King's Lynn the match with more riding on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 9 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Very good post. I wonder of Belle Vie will replace Zischke this year, they've been patient with him, but really need a stronger reserve to challenge for the title imo. For Brennan, has he stalled in Britain this year because he's in such a good team he doesn't have to go well to win, compared to last year, when he needed to be amazing to avoid heavy defeats. Maybe a lack of pressure isn't working for him? For the last paragraph, that's the problem with the play-offs, Ipswich & Belle Vue clashing, doesn't excite me, it's what happens in the play-offs that matters. For that reason I found Birmingham vs King's Lynn the match with more riding on it. Maybe a six team league next year would be more competitive, resulting in more matches with some jeopardy and consequence? Six would appear to be the "sweet spot" for UK Speedway given the amount of riders who want to race here... An amalgam of Oxford and Brum this year would have delivered a sixth competitive team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 23 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: When/ where did blodorn pick up this knee injury ? Good luck to Norick this Friday in the SGP2... Hopefully he is over his injury.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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