THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Gavan said: Weird analogy Best race track in the UK yet you don’t get good crowds?? Yet tracks like Ipswich (which of course isn’t as good as yours) are being blamed for the death of speedway Well you have the better track and we have better crowds ….. I guess then that your promotion team are responsible for the death of the sport as they need to get the crowds through the door As you weirdly keep saying we haven’t won the league since 1998 yet we year on year get better crowds than you …… need to promote the sport better in Manchester He does seem to spouting strange analogy’s that don’t make sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 3 minutes ago, AceBelle said: We go to watch proper racing not rider mistake and bad track prep why do Ipswich come to NSS oh yes to look at prem trophy 🤣 come back when you have won it 1998 🤣 We saw proper racing tonight … even Mulford made passes Emil passed your top two easily … Ellis then did the same to Bewley ….. must be so difficult when you haven’t got a huge fast track to stick your rocket ship out in the dirt and play catch me if you can my bike is faster than your bike Fact is your team is made up of one track ponies who haven’t got the skill to adapt ….. Kings Lynn ride Foxhall better than your lot lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 3 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: He does seem to spouting strange analogy’s that don’t make sense barking at the moon that one! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Gavan said: We saw proper racing tonight … even Mulford made passes Emil passed your top two easily … Ellis then did the same to Bewley ….. must be so difficult when you haven’t got a huge fast track to stick your rocket ship out in the dirt and play catch me if you can my bike is faster than your bike Fact is your team is made up of one track ponies who haven’t got the skill to adapt ….. Kings Lynn ride Foxhall better than your lot lol Come back when you have actually won the league otherwise you are going to look rather silly 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago I haven’t been to Ipswich for a couple of years but from what I see and read it does seem to have a buzz about the place which is good to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said: barking at the moon that one! Yes I think he just trolling for attention but that’s ok it’s just banter between clubs which is healthy Edited 9 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 3 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Yes I think he just trolling for attention but that’s ok it’s just banter between clubs which is healthy aye no issue from me - still barking tho!😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago On a different note Doyle got me concerned in his first two outings, I thought his seasons of dramas were catching up to him. Then he wins his next load of races! I do wonder if he was entirely happy with how hard Ellis was riding him in heat 15, couple times he almost had him off! Although Doyle done well to win the race with a punctured rear tyre! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Just now, ShanoXtra said: On a different note Doyle got me concerned in his first two outings, I thought his seasons of dramas were catching up to him. Then he wins his next load of races! I do wonder if he was entirely happy with how hard Ellis was riding him in heat 15, couple times he almost had him off! Although Doyle done well to win the race with a punctured rear tyre! 😂 what impressed me was both Emil and Jason are just not quite 100% of what they were say 2 years ago but in heat 13 they proved their class and worth! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 11 minutes ago, AceBelle said: Come back when you have actually won the league otherwise you are going to look rather silly 😜 No not at all we might not win the league but at the moment I’m not concerned if we have to face Belle Vue as 3 times this season we have comfortably won at home and won once away and drawn away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbend Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 8 minutes ago, AceBelle said: Come back when you have actually won the league otherwise you are going to look rather silly 😜 Did the administrators take the 'nd' off the end of your forum name? As you just seem to only have 2 answers "best track" and "won the league" in every discussion and you think other people are going to look silly. Perhaps a little quiet personal reflection time might help you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 30 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: But BV are not pulling the crowds at home, why not ? Just think there is far more alternatives tbh, United, City plus lower and non league clubs, cricket, rugby league/union, ice hockey, loads of top gigs, etc etc, theatre shows among all that speedway is a well kept secret. Edited 8 hours ago by bellevueace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago At least i can book holidays for the play off final dates 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 15 minutes ago, bellevueace said: Just think there is far more alternatives tbh, United, City plus lower and non league clubs, cricket, rugby league/union, ice hockey, loads of top gigs, etc etc, theatre shows among all that speedway is a well kept secret. Surely the 'world famous BV aces' aren't a secret! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, LisaColette said: Surely the 'world famous BV aces' aren't a secret! The whole sport is a secret Lisa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, bellevueace said: The whole sport is a secret Lisa. This is sadly true, each to their own as they say but having attended many sports ovet the years, Cricket, Ice Hockey, Rugby both codes, Football, Athletics, Basketball , Horse racing - i can honestly say speedway is still my favourite - the thrill of a great speedway race beats all of them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: The system has helped him a couple of times especially in the last round where he had a poor GP but won the 2 races which mattered and he can thank lindgren for blocking zmarzlik coming out the first corner but not taking it away from Kurtz he has been brilliant this season The system has made next to zero difference, both kurtz and Zmarzlik have made the same number of finals, both have had 2 LCQs, and both have failed to make the final once each. If you use heat points then Zmarzlik woukd be 4 points clear of Kurtz rather then the current 3 points. Kurtz is where he is on pure merit regardless of the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 28 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: The system has made next to zero difference, both kurtz and Zmarzlik have made the same number of finals, both have had 2 LCQs, and both have failed to make the final once each. If you use heat points then Zmarzlik woukd be 4 points clear of Kurtz rather then the current 3 points. Kurtz is where he is on pure merit regardless of the system. In Prague under last years system Kurtz wouldn’t of qualified for semi final as he finished 9th on 7 points but did under this years system(10 qualifying) Kurtz is where he is on merit but was helped by the system change in Prague Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 6 hours ago, ShanoXtra said: I genuinely believe Ipswich is more of a community and the surrounding area backs its team, same with football ATM. Manchester is just another overloaded city with probably more to do but also not as dedicated to its local club, obviously some die hards but I mean when you look at population Manchester should be able to draw massive crowds. This isn’t a dig at anyone from Manchester by the way! I’m sure you’ll come back with “because you have nothing to do apart from farm” 😂😂😂 Various reasons... The SGP cost many Aces fans a fortune, (about five Aces matches worth if you went both nights)..., You also have the two major football teams, but also have many satellite towns who have their own pro teams who can deliver five figure crowds... The non league scene, below the Conference, is also very well attended with my lad playing in front of four figure crowds regularly at around twelve quid a pop... Rugby League is also a factor, as, once again, many satellite towns have their own team, with the likes of Wigan having 20k... Sale Sharks deliver decent crowds too, in RU... IManchester Storm Ice Hockey get a couple of thousand and Manchester Basketball and Netball get decent numbers... Add in Lancashire Cricket, with T20 and The Hundred generatng five figure crowds, (during the Summer holidays, with loads of families in place), and you can see that there won't be much left for Speedway from a family's disposable income... Admission costs arei mentioned on the socials by many... If you already attend a "bona fide" pro sport then your money wont stretch too much further, (especially for a sport that has such credibility issues), and also the socials will state that many meetings are "meaningless" given the Aces recent history in reaching the Play Offs.. The City's demographic is also completely opposite to the traditional white, middle aged, male and female follower of the sport... 35000 students live in Manchester from all over the UK and World, and the ethnic diversity numbers in the City are huge... With both sectors having zero interest in watching something your Dad and Grandad go to, or your white middle aged colleagues from work attend... But will pay big bucks to watch some world famous bands and singers, with two venues able to handle over 20,000... And then you can obviously add that hardly anyone below 40 in Manchester has heard of the "World Famous Belle Vue Aces", let alone what they do... 2.75M live within 45 mins of the NSS which does suggest a rather poor marketing campaign doesn't it? Taking all the above challenges into the mix, a decent marketing company would still surely jump at the chance to get 2500 of that 2.75M there each week? The reach must be enormous if done properly, and this is still but a tiny, tiny portion of the local populace.. Edited 2 hours ago by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 hours ago, bellevueace said: Just think there is far more alternatives tbh, United, City plus lower and non league clubs, cricket, rugby league/union, ice hockey, loads of top gigs, etc etc, theatre shows among all that speedway is a well kept secret. Not really sure Manchester Storm Ice Hockey count... they're based in Altrincham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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