KevtheRev Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 6 hours ago, ShanoXtra said: So now we are suggesting we water our league down only to lose every match against Denmark and Sweden teams because they will have GP riders and we wont? Come on guys someone needs to have concrete answers or this is more farcical by the day. I've not suggested watering down our league, quite the opposite. Do this to ensure we keep hold of the top guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, YeOldPitGate said: As we all know there aren't any good/ easy immediate answers it won't happen but I have mulled if maybe there were six in the main league next year keep the superstars but just have one home and away then straight into the play off's if you wanted to see Emil,Jack Holder, Fricke you might have just the one chance rather than 4-5 opportunities now. The top six clubs could then run a second team like Oxford have done at Championship level assuming say the current remaining 9 championship teams run it could be once/home and away with maybe 5 man teams with riders who are committed to being available for at least 90% of the fixtures. This would give more variety and we would have to keep double down as a necessary evil for the near term but the likes of the Cooks, Harris, Lawson, Masters, (maybe Douglas) could still compete in both leagues to earn a decent living. If the third tier continues to run maybe allow each team to have a couple of aussies Jordy Loftus is a good example struggled when he got here but is now finding his feet and chipping in with a few points each meeting hopefully he should develop into a decent riders who would commit to UK next 5-10 years. I realise people will say the model hasn't worked for Oxford this year but I get the impression the problems are more down to the health of the main backer than the operating model. Getting away from Mondays is a must the worst night of the week to put anything on as people have had the low of going back to work after the weekend high and just don't want to go out that night, Thurs and Fridays the weekend feeling is starting to get back in peoples head and they are more inclined to do things. I like the idea of a "Super League", with maybe five rider teams? Could Glasgow and Poole be tempted to go into it? Them plus the current six would mean just 40 riders of say four point and above averages... Home and Away once, with top four play offs, and play downs if other clubs want to join the year after... Franchise Speedway, keep your spot or lose it... You can then run the same teams in a hybrid Championship/NDL level with the top riders missing... The big league, home and away once, and top six into the play offs, given the number of teams to keep the league interesting... 3rd v 6th, and 4th v 5th to qualify to the last four... First and Second then pick their opponents in order.. And then one "Super League" that you sell to the TV companies... (With no F***ing Guests in the Super League!.. Twenty quid for Super League, fifteen quid for the hybrid one.... Edited 4 hours ago by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, mikebv said: When Poland decide Mondays and Thursdays are the best nights to run their Speedway on every week, then I think we will be ahead of the curve.... As Plymouth has shown, and I believe Leicester has shown in the past, running weekend Speedway delivers bigger crowds, even if riders are missing or of a lesser standard... Clubs need to target kids aged 4 - 11, like McDonald's do, as they know that the loss leader "Happy Meal" will get sold alongside the Adults getting profit making meals too... They also know that on Monday morning the kids who attended little Williams birthday party at McD's on the Friday evening, Saturday or Sunday, will be talking about it, and those who attended will be mithering their parents to have their parties there... And those who just heard about the party, but didn't attend, will be mithering their parents as well!! Flood local infant schools with free tickets for kids and reduced price tickets for their parents or guardians.. There may be some who attend now, but not many, so what you may lose is nothing compared to what could be gained... And just charge a tenner for the Adults, as the vast majority of tenners will be new money, not regulars getting in cheap... But. And this where "grand gestures" never work in isolation.... "Build it and they will come" doesn't work... You then need to keep these people coming at a scaled reduced price, until they get hooked and are prepared to pay full price... And you do that through constant communication via email and phone... Lets be clear though, running on a Monday or Thursday during school terms won't encourage those parents to attend, regardless of whether VFM or not... As for those older kids? Sponsor local football, cricket, rugby etc etc leagues... Attend the games with bikes, and marketing gazebo. Some places have ten games being played at once, meaning hundreds of kids and hundreds of parents.. The beauty for Speedway is you don't need thousands more to attend at each track, just hundreds... Even a very, very basic local marketing campaign will deliver that, for not much outlay, if the right market is targeted, and you keep in communication with them.. Or, alternatively, carry on doing exactly the same thing but expect it all to come good.. Whilst taking the sport to the kids again is worthwhile we have hundreds a year with their parents walking past a 50 foot image of Dan Bewley before walking across the speedway track to play football. https://www.playfootball.net/venues/manchester-belle-vue-sports-village/community-sessions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 26 minutes ago, ouch said: Whilst taking the sport to the kids again is worthwhile we have hundreds a year with their parents walking past a 50 foot image of Dan Bewley before walking across the speedway track to play football. https://www.playfootball.net/venues/manchester-belle-vue-sports-village/community-sessions Asking them to lay out circa £40 for mum and dad, (over £50 if sat down as the kid gets charged too), to watch something they know very little about, will always be the challenge.. Even more so on a school day during term time... Seems daft to have all those empty seats near bend four for so many meetings, when some cheap tickets/freebies, may engage some parents and kids to attimes.. And you don't need the same ones attending each week, just keep flooding the locale with cheap tickets... When I worked in marketing for a couple of years, doing a head office secondment, I was amazed at just how low freebies, or low price offers, via coupons, were redeemed... Around just 11℅ to 15% was the averaged/expected/budgeted for, take up... Glasgow are giving away 3000 tickets which should therefore see a redemption of 330 to 450 using industry numbers, which shows how "big" the clubs need to think when doing these trade driving ideas... Hope it works for them, and they have a plan to keep those newbies personally engaged to revisit several times enough to become "hooked" and see the full admission costs as VFM.. Edited 2 hours ago by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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