The White Knight Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Hawk127 said: Most on here care but it is probably those in charge who have lost touch with what supporters of this particular two wheeled sport want. SON was in the most part boring except for the underdogs in Germany taking a title. It seems that speedway has lost its way at international level and has become very insular from a local league level. It will take something or someone special to pull the sport together at the highest level and as long as the riders and not not the authorities dictate when and how meetings take place and what conditions it is on a downward trajectory. Someone needs to get a grip particularly in the UK as the current set up is failing all genuine supporters. Personally, I blame the GP System. I honestly think that Speedway was a much better Sport to watch before the GP's started. I thought from the first time the GP System was brought in to existence, in Speedway that it would be the long, slow death knell of British Speedway. I believe that, desperately sadly, I have been proved right. A number of things have contributed to people's disillusionment with British Speedway. Firstly, the League system we have is challenging, to say the least, with the 'Play Off' system and fitting all the Meetings in before the end of the Season. Secondly, not all tracks have a 'One'Off' Individual Meeting - a source of great pleasure to the Supporters - those who pay to attend, by the way. Pairs Meetings, Four Team Tournaments are now, it seems, no longer fashionable and no longer exist. Thirdly, the Bikes are far and away too fast for the Tracks that the riders are expected to race on, resulting in more injuries. Said Tracks are STILL very similar to those Tracks back in the years Speedway started (1920's). Bikes and Accessories have moved forward with development, the Tracks have not. Finally, I believe that the introduction of the Four Valve Engine was another contributor to Speedway's demise. If only we could go back to 2 Valve engines, 'One Off'World Finals, Second Halves, no 'Play Off' so the Team that actually win the League really do win it. Integrity is important and folks don't like to be cheated of the fair and just result. I know most folk will think that I am talking nonsense to which I can only say - LOOK AT SPEEDWAY NOW AND LOOK AT SPEEDWAY THEN. There is a tremendous difference, and NOT for the better either. No the wonder people are walking away, the Price to go to a Meeting has risen enormously for the Meeting only, with no extras like the old Second Half. All of these things are contributors to the decline of our Sport. Edited 23 hours ago by The White Knight Forgot a couple of points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PersonalResponsibility Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 14 hours ago, The White Knight said: Personally, I blame the GP System. I honestly think that Speedway was a much better Sport to watch before the GP's started. I thought from the first time the GP System was brought in to existence, in Speedway that it would be the long, slow death knell of British Speedway. I believe that, desperately sadly, I have been proved right. A number of things have contributed to people's disillusionment with British Speedway. Firstly, the League system we have is challenging, to say the least, with the 'Play Off' system and fitting all the Meetings in before the end of the Season. Secondly, not all tracks have a 'One'Off' Individual Meeting - a source of great pleasure to the Supporters - those who pay to attend, by the way. Pairs Meetings, Four Team Tournaments are now, it seems, no longer fashionable and no longer exist. Thirdly, the Bikes are far and away too fast for the Tracks that the riders are expected to race on, resulting in more injuries. Said Tracks are STILL very similar to those Tracks back in the years Speedway started (1920's). Bikes and Accessories have moved forward with development, the Tracks have not. Finally, I believe that the introduction of the Four Valve Engine was another contributor to Speedway's demise. If only we could go back to 2 Valve engines, 'One Off'World Finals, Second Halves, no 'Play Off' so the Team that actually win the League really do win it. Integrity is important and folks don't like to be cheated of the fair and just result. I know most folk will think that I am talking nonsense to which I can only say - LOOK AT SPEEDWAY NOW AND LOOK AT SPEEDWAY THEN. There is a tremendous difference, and NOT for the better either. No the wonder people are walking away, the Price to go to a Meeting has risen enormously for the Meeting only, with no extras like the old Second Half. All of these things are contributors to the decline of our Sport. Sadly, I think a lot of what you're missing is nostalgia, not that there's anything wrong with that. Modern day speedway is clearly thriving domestically in Poland, and isn't exactly dead in Sweden, so why is GB struggling? I think you could bring back Wembley, uprights, 4TT and whatever else, but it's too late. It's been like death by a thousand paper cuts following British speedway in the last 25 years. I think where we do agree is that it's probably too far gone now. Sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 18 hours ago, The White Knight said: Personally, I blame the GP System. I honestly think that Speedway was a much better Sport to watch before the GP's started. I thought from the first time the GP System was brought in to existence, in Speedway that it would be the long, slow death knell of British Speedway. I believe that, desperately sadly, I have been proved right. A number of things have contributed to people's disillusionment with British Speedway. Firstly, the League system we have is challenging, to say the least, with the 'Play Off' system and fitting all the Meetings in before the end of the Season. Secondly, not all tracks have a 'One'Off' Individual Meeting - a source of great pleasure to the Supporters - those who pay to attend, by the way. Pairs Meetings, Four Team Tournaments are now, it seems, no longer fashionable and no longer exist. Thirdly, the Bikes are far and away too fast for the Tracks that the riders are expected to race on, resulting in more injuries. Said Tracks are STILL very similar to those Tracks back in the years Speedway started (1920's). Bikes and Accessories have moved forward with development, the Tracks have not. Finally, I believe that the introduction of the Four Valve Engine was another contributor to Speedway's demise. If only we could go back to 2 Valve engines, 'One Off'World Finals, Second Halves, no 'Play Off' so the Team that actually win the League really do win it. Integrity is important and folks don't like to be cheated of the fair and just result. I know most folk will think that I am talking nonsense to which I can only say - LOOK AT SPEEDWAY NOW AND LOOK AT SPEEDWAY THEN. There is a tremendous difference, and NOT for the better either. No the wonder people are walking away, the Price to go to a Meeting has risen enormously for the Meeting only, with no extras like the old Second Half. All of these things are contributors to the decline of our Sport. Don't disagree with any of that but the frustrating thing is if you look at the last world team cup when Poland pipped GB at the post the place was packed and the last four heats were out of the top drawer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago I don’t think you can blame the gps. The sport had already been in decline for the decade before their introduction. What you blame is failure to move with the times in the uk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago On 10/5/2025 at 5:26 PM, secsy1 said: So Arnieg and ShaonaXtra want British speedway to fall into extra insignificance due to the Polish fans not giving a crap about the Speedway of Nations due to its insignificance! Sorry Poland is supposed to be the leader in promoting Speedway as it is the World leader. If the fans cannot be bothered with International Speedway (As they did not win it) Shame on you. How pathetic are you clowns> If we are winning it is great, but if we are losing we will complain. Pair of idiots who do not care about speedway as they are clowns ???? What happens in Poland's hosting of the SON has zero bearing on UK Speedway... The Poles give the SON a wide berth, and fully concentrate on their own leagues (which are much cheaper to attend), and the individual GP's, (their own individual events are often quite poorly attended)... The SWC, when held there, usually generates decent interest. But, even if they get a full house for it, or have the place empty... If won't be of any impact to the UK crowd levels and the way the promoters run the sport in the UK... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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