King’s Lynn Stars vs Oxford Spires - 18.08.25

[LisaColette]

9 hours ago, Mr Blobby said:

Jamie Courtney doesn’t pay the wages, someone else does but yes several are due a good amount of money.

 

Looks like your guesting. 77% atm 😂

[TTT]

Serious change is needed at Oxford if they're not paying riders.

They get battered every week so the wage bill can't be that deep, Imagine what it would be like if they actually managed to be competitive and win meetings.

[PhilTheAce]

15 hours ago, flagrag said:

Oxford riders have told promotion they want the money owed before the TV meeting next Monday this is why no riders want to guest in Premiership or Championship as don’t know when they will get their money 

And when you hear the amount of what some riders are owed it makes you wonder. Where will they find that money before Monday. 
 

worrying times ahead 

[Odds On]

17 hours ago, hasta la vista said:

Got the evidence you need now Odds on?

not really, as far as i can see it's still only hearsay...seems very strange this has only come to light after a riders engine failures on Monday night. 

[IainB]

42 minutes ago, Odds On said:

not really, as far as i can see it's still only hearsay...seems very strange this has only come to light after a riders engine failures on Monday night. 

@flagrag is pretty much in the know generally

[mikebv]

48 minutes ago, Odds On said:

not really, as far as i can see it's still only hearsay...seems very strange this has only come to light after a riders engine failures on Monday night. 

Maybe said rider has decided to not spend any more money on his UK kit until he gets paid? 

[TTT]

2 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

And when you hear the amount of what some riders are owed it makes you wonder. Where will they find that money before Monday. 
 

worrying times ahead 

From Day 1 I said it wasn't financially viable to run in all three leagues.

Higher ups need to take some responsibility in this as well imo and maybe they should help Oxford out financially.

[mikebv]

3 minutes ago, TTT said:

From Day 1 I said it wasn't financially viable to run in all three leagues.

Higher ups need to take some responsibility in this as well imo and maybe they should help Oxford out financially.

It was their own business decision and was almost heralded as being a great idea as it meant "weekly Speedway", which for so many (who don't have to actually fork out for weekly Speedway), seemed almost utopia at the time...

The reality is that the "novelty" of their return has worn off as it always naturally does at every new track, and paying for sometimes two meetings a week, (more if fans go away too), will always be a challenge...

Just the two leagues next year? 2nd and 3rd tier?

[IainB]

Just now, mikebv said:

It was their own business decision

Yes, but... I dare say that if Peterborough and Wolverhampton were still in operation then Oxford would still be riding in the CL & NDL only. They came "up" with Birmingham when the 2 aforementioned clubs ceased operation to make the numbers up for a viable PL to operate and keep the TV people happy.

[Neila]

I was at Oxford on Sunday for the worky fixture, thought the championship crowd level was poor around 500 this includes lots in the posh bit behind the glasses, but very patchy on the normal terraces, and this team is slightly more successful than the premiership team. . Have also heard rumours of riders not being paid.

[hasta la vista]

Although the business model of running 3 teams is somewhat questionable, allegedly that is not the reason for the current shortfall.

[YeOldPitGate]

3 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

And when you hear the amount of what some riders are owed it makes you wonder. Where will they find that money before Monday. 
 

worrying times ahead 

What's gone wrong Phil it would appear they are still getting some of the better crowds in Speedway and they were supposed to be backed by a fella with deep pockets ? is it running in three leagues that's balls'ed things up ?

[Mr Blobby]

10 hours ago, LisaColette said:

 

Looks like your guesting. 77% atm 😂

I’m flattered but they couldn’t afford me. 😆

[Odds On]

2 hours ago, IainB said:

@flagrag is pretty much in the know generally

i am merely playing devils advocate...I have also heard some of the rumours doing the rounds. Still hoping they are wrong.

[BackInTheDHSS]

Been doing some digging and looks as if Boothby took out a questionable couple of loans from Tallaght Financial Ltd recently. Not a good sign. 

On the surface you would expect Oxford finances to be healthy. Good crowds (although they have wained somewhat through this season). If they can’t afford to pay riders on the basis of that, something is definitely wrong. I would suggest all is not well in the Boothby camp. Where is @Bojangles, he seems to know what’s going on behind the scenes?

Edited 13 hours ago by BackInTheDHSS

[TTT]

3 hours ago, mikebv said:

It was their own business decision and was almost heralded as being a great idea as it meant "weekly Speedway", which for so many (who don't have to actually fork out for weekly Speedway), seemed almost utopia at the time...

The reality is that the "novelty" of their return has worn off as it always naturally does at every new track, and paying for sometimes two meetings a week, (more if fans go away too), will always be a challenge...

Just the two leagues next year? 2nd and 3rd tier?

Pete's interview on BSN would suggest Premiership racing.

Maybe they'll sack the Championship off.

[YeOldPitGate]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

Pete's interview on BSN would suggest Premiership racing.

Maybe they'll sack the Championship off.

They must be insane absolute best case there will be 6 clubs running in Prem next year, tv money by all counts is buttons, they would be better off staying in Champ costs on average 30% lower, the crowds would most likely be similar and easier to put a team together.

[Toady]

Well documented that Kevin boothby is unwell all sorts of rumours flying around in the greyhound game,Perhaps loans are for the Suffolk downs project who knows but someone on Oxford Facebook page a couple of weeks ago suggested riders hadn’t been paid(Tungate).

[IainB]

5 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said:

They must be insane absolute best case there will be 6 clubs running in Prem next year, tv money by all counts is buttons, they would be better off staying in Champ costs on average 30% lower, the crowds would most likely be similar and easier to put a team together.

I think tv want 7 at minimum which is why Oxford & Brum were forced up... tv contract up for renewal at the end of the year

[Hilly]

8 hours ago, Toady said:

Well documented that Kevin boothby is unwell all sorts of rumours flying around in the greyhound game,Perhaps loans are for the Suffolk downs project who knows but someone on Oxford Facebook page a couple of weeks ago suggested riders hadn’t been paid(Tungate).

Doubt Tungate would notice if he's been paid or not this season going by his scores 🤣