mikebv Posted yesterday at 10:49 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:49 AM 10 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: This is a little story from the year after I finished, Buxton had a home match and had 2 riders missing as I think 1 was injured and the other rider had a match for his championship team on the same day so Buxton booked a guest,and used RR for the number 1, this guest was no superstar but it was the only rider really available, he wanted £35 per point plus Tavel plus a tyre plus fuel and he wanted a hotel for him and his Mrs as he was riding somewhere else the next day so was not going home, he was booked to ride at number 4 but on the morning of the match the championship match was called off so the number 4 was able to ride,so Buxton told the guest he would ride at number1 to which he said he wanted an extra £5 per point, for what exactly? ,the meeting was rained off anyway but he still wanted his hotel paid as he was still riding the next day,that was the sort of thing which killed off Buxton, well that and some teams paying gaurentees of £500 for their stars, I’m blowing my own trumpet here but when they had the chance the bspl should of put me in charge of the national league the day I retired. But! But! But!.... Just think of the massive publicity and financial rewards on offer for winning the NDL!!!! ... Absolute crackers isn't it? Someone really needs to save this sport, and whoever it is, needs to start with saving the promoters from themselves... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted yesterday at 12:33 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:33 PM 10 hours ago, R87 said: Another fantasy Thankfully, not everyone has such a negative view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted yesterday at 02:28 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:28 PM 12 hours ago, R87 said: Another fantasy Part of the problem is those who sit a home and do nothing and then moan about it on forums 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted yesterday at 02:35 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:35 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: This is a little story from the year after I finished, Buxton had a home match and had 2 riders missing as I think 1 was injured and the other rider had a match for his championship team on the same day so Buxton booked a guest,and used RR for the number 1, this guest was no superstar but it was the only rider really available, he wanted £35 per point plus Tavel plus a tyre plus fuel and he wanted a hotel for him and his Mrs as he was riding somewhere else the next day so was not going home, he was booked to ride at number 4 but on the morning of the match the championship match was called off so the number 4 was able to ride,so Buxton told the guest he would ride at number1 to which he said he wanted an extra £5 per point, for what exactly? ,the meeting was rained off anyway but he still wanted his hotel paid as he was still riding the next day,that was the sort of thing which killed off Buxton, well that and some teams paying gaurentees of £500 for their stars, I’m blowing my own trumpet here but when they had the chance the bspl should of put me in charge of the national league the day I retired. Judging by your insight, experience and knowledge - you are probably right. Edited yesterday at 02:37 PM by The White Knight Forgot a couple of points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieboyDon Posted yesterday at 02:57 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:57 PM 12 hours ago, R87 said: Another fantasy 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted yesterday at 05:41 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:41 PM 15 hours ago, R87 said: Another fantasy Says the person who was later found to be contradicting his own posts.🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveArena Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago Any more news on Wimbledon? Hadnt they found a site where a go kart track was situated who were happy to have speedway there aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 5 hours ago, Petecc said: Part of the problem is those who sit a home and do nothing and then moan about it on forums But what can we do as fans/supporters? I have said for a number of years, speedway is not 'squaring the circle' (cost wise), no pun intended. While you have riders expecting extreme fees/wages for their services, with a mediocre fan base, it's not financially sustainable/viable. The only chance for speedway to survive, is somehow, reduce costs for the riders and the fans. Otherwise speedway will need to 'shut up shop' in it's current format. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 13 hours ago, Petecc said: Part of the problem is those who sit a home and do nothing and then moan about it on forums Mostly voting with their feet. The tangible change the average fan can make is turning up weekly and putting their money in the till. By not doing so they’re showing they aren’t happy with the product. That’s when the supplier needs to step up and win them back. The sport isn’t doing that these days for the most part. There’s absolutely a negativity bias in the world but forums and social media can be the only place for fans to vent their frustrations. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieboyDon Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 13 hours ago, SteveArena said: Any more news on Wimbledon? Hadnt they found a site where a go kart track was situated who were happy to have speedway there aswell. Still being worked on... Cue R87 posting 'Another fantasy'... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 21 hours ago, mikebv said: But! But! But!.... Just think of the massive publicity and financial rewards on offer for winning the NDL!!!! ... Absolute crackers isn't it? Someone really needs to save this sport, and whoever it is, needs to start with saving the promoters from themselves... I understand that that is still happening today. I was speaking to the Leicester Team Manager who said that getting guests was hard as they paid what the league suggests and riders with a little experience want more than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 14 minutes ago, SJA said: I understand that that is still happening today. I was speaking to the Leicester Team Manager who said that getting guests was hard as they paid what the league suggests and riders with a little experience want more than this. Yes it is because the sport is run by the riders for the riders Edited 8 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 37 minutes ago, SJA said: I understand that that is still happening today. I was speaking to the Leicester Team Manager who said that getting guests was hard as they paid what the league suggests and riders with a little experience want more than this. If all of the promoters actually agreed to adopt the “suggestion” as an “agreement” it would end the riders demanding more who will continue to do so simply because in the meantime some promoters will continue to pay more than the “suggestion”. Of course even if the suggestion was adopted as a rule the challenge would be to prevent the same promoters working around the agreement/rule in search of glory and ignoring the basics of cost control for the betterment of the sport rather than their own interests. Edited 8 hours ago by 1 valve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 5 hours ago, SJA said: I understand that that is still happening today. I was speaking to the Leicester Team Manager who said that getting guests was hard as they paid what the league suggests and riders with a little experience want more than this. Maybe an idea would be that before the season starts every rider that wants to guest during the coming season signs an agreement that he will guest for the fee agreed by the league if not he does not go on to the rider guest list, yes I know teams can still pay over the odds but perhaps when the said rider asks for more he should be removed from the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, 1 valve said: If all of the promoters actually agreed to adopt the “suggestion” as an “agreement” it would end the riders demanding more who will continue to do so simply because in the meantime some promoters will continue to pay more than the “suggestion”. Of course even if the suggestion was adopted as a rule the challenge would be to prevent the same promoters working around the agreement/rule in search of glory and ignoring the basics of cost control for the betterment of the sport rather than their own interests. One multiple World Champion said to me that it's up to the Promoter if he wants to pay what i'm asking, nobody makes them, all they have to do is say no, they agreed, and the Club basically went broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, heathen52 said: Maybe an idea would be that before the season starts every rider that wants to guest during the coming season signs an agreement that he will guest for the fee agreed by the league if not he does not go on to the rider guest list, yes I know teams can still pay over the odds but perhaps when the said rider asks for more he should be removed from the list. As Matt Ford once said …”I’ll agree to any wage cap you want to impose…..I’ll just get a sponsor to pay the rest “. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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