SUPERACE Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago 56 minutes ago, mikebv said: The rules are set... Hence the Championship are planning for next season... If the Premiership cannot come to the tapes then those clubs will need to put out teams together from riders who haven't yet got a team place, "if" the Championship let them in... If, trust me they will need them. No prem and most of the riders won't make it pay, they will need more meetings from the 5 clubs. Nobody has the high ground here if they think they do then its doomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago I've read that Sittingbournes stadium has new owners looking to increase the stadiums use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago 3 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said: Where/who has that 'plan' come from? It was in the star a couple of weeks back from either Louis or Godfrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago 8 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: If, trust me they will need them. No prem and most of the riders won't make it pay, they will need more meetings from the 5 clubs. Nobody has the high ground here if they think they do then its doomed. It is doomed whatever they do, given the lack of teams, the high average age of the HL level of riders, and the lack of riders of the required level being developed... Keeping the patient on life support in the hope a miracle cure is found over the next two or three years is probably the best all can hope for.. It shows just how much the sport in the UK is just set up for the riders to earn as much as they possibly can, rather than being set up to be seen as bona fide team sport championships.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago 6 minutes ago, mikebv said: It is doomed whatever they do, given the lack of teams, the high average age of the HL level of riders, and the lack of riders of the required level being developed... Keeping the patient on life support in the hope a miracle cure is found over the next two or three years is probably the best all can hope for.. It shows just how much the sport in the UK is just set up for the riders to earn as much as they possibly can, rather than being set up to be seen as bona fide team sport championships.. How dare you say it is doomed. Neil Vatcher the child snatcher reckons all is Rosie in the garden of the NDL, yet Kent Eagles are waiting to see if they can run, Ipswich will be sold but not to who anyone thinks, Sheffield have enough steel in the stadia to scrap the team and increase the income with the knife and fork productivity in the UK and the four who are left are looking actively at running three team tournaments. Everything at the top level is good to go next October with the play offs and a final planned that would make the tiddlywinks championship look like an also ran. Add to this Tai chasing a GP spot while still not fully fit and the championship pretending that all is well with sport and yep, all is great with speedway UK Time to get real and back all that is good about speedway at the highest level in this country. Until then back off and feel free to comment on the technical side of the sport and how you get 49cc mopeds to make the grade that gives a level playing field for all participants. Joking aside the sport is on its knees and while other European states get on with team building, arranging sponsors etc, the UK scene is at its nadir. Start praying for a miracle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago On 11/26/2025 at 7:37 PM, cowboy cookie returns? said: Unless there is a Harry Redknapp miracle around the corner I think league speedway is finished in this country by the end of 2028. 100th anniversary of speedway - and OUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 6 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Couldn't disagree more. There will always be Speedway, may become more amateur or more part time. Could be a series of individual meetings if a league cannot exist. May end up being electric bikes. No doubt changes need to be made, but don't see Speedway ending in this Country. 4 hours ago, TTT said: We haven't got a new generation of fans coming through. There must be some new fans, not everyone who goes to Speedway was alive in the 70s heyday. I'm sure there's Edinburgh fans based in Armadale, who do didn't go to watch at Shawfield or Powderhall 30 years ago. Look at the kids race at Glasgow, pretty sure their parents must pay to get in. I'm not saying everything is Rosey, far from it. But I can't agree with comments that the sport won't be here in a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rich Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 5 hours ago, 1 valve said: Yes indeed, and none of the riders who ride for those teams will be able to ride speedway, grass track & long track on any other tracks anywhere in the world. Not sure the Aussies, Danes, Poles etc would like that ever mind Brits who ride abroad in speedway and similar. The BSPL, or any other Federation, cannot stop anyone who has ridden in a NORA meeting from competing in an ACU event. James Shanes has ridden Grasstrack (ACU) since riding for Mildenhall (NORA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago Perhaps an idea for next year is to run, 2 x Championships. A top league with a 45 point limit & a second league with a 40 point limit. Probably be easier to encourage an even split of 7 & 7 if it means stepping up to a "strong" Championship rather than the Prem. Still allows riders to double up. Hopefully still fit in the best non-gp riders in the new top tier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Rich said: The BSPL, or any other Federation, cannot stop anyone who has ridden in a NORA meeting from competing in an ACU event. James Shanes has ridden Grasstrack (ACU) since riding for Mildenhall (NORA) ... as have many others riding speedway with both NORA & SCB/ACU licences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 11 minutes ago, IainB said: ... as have many others riding speedway with both NORA & SCB/ACU licences ACU licenses can be withdrawn & the FIM. Would support such actions. small “ankle biter” riders and events are not of a concern. Different matter if clubs want to promote & riders want compete in significant alternative league and solo events in opposition to BSPL organisations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 8 minutes ago, 1 valve said: ACU licenses can be withdrawn & the FIM. Would support such actions. small “ankle biter” riders and events are not of a concern. Different matter if clubs want to promote & riders want compete in significant alternative league and solo events in opposition to BSPL organisations. I'm not sure the FIM are really interested in any domestic speedway anywhere. I don't think the ACU particularly have a one to one relationship with the SCB/BSPL. In the old National League days didn't those riders also ride with ACU licences? Obviously if there were to be any kind of breakaway league it'd probably be more attractive if it were affiliated to the ACU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 4 hours ago, mikebv said: The rules are set... Hence the Championship are planning for next season... If the Premiership cannot come to the tapes then those clubs will need to put out teams together from riders who haven't yet got a team place, "if" the Championship let them in... The only reason Championship clubs get away with paying riders peanuts, is because the Premiership pays them proper money. With no Premiership, riders will be very unhappy! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 10 hours ago, LagutaRacingFan said: The only reason Championship clubs get away with paying riders peanuts, is because the Premiership pays them proper money. With no Premiership, riders will be very unhappy! Money some Premiership Clubs can’t afford though.Thats a problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago If there's no premiership and the championship seemingly don't want to strengthen, my days of live speedway in the UK will be over. The odd meeting over BSN fair enough but I'm not paying £20+ to watch a couple of veterans, NDL riders and those who never made it, it doesn't float my boat. Amateur racing for free or £10 max then I would go. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 10 hours ago, LagutaRacingFan said: The only reason Championship clubs get away with paying riders peanuts, is because the Premiership pays them proper money. With no Premiership, riders will be very unhappy! Not as simple as that... Some Double Uppers may get their best individual sponsorship from someone who follows their Championship team... Eg a new bike paid for... To presume those already signed for Championship teams would "jump ship" for "more money" should one league happen, and that be the only option, is too simplistic... Especially as signed contracts hold people to account .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 16 hours ago, mikebv said: The rules are set... Hence the Championship are planning for next season... If the Premiership cannot come to the tapes then those clubs will need to put out teams together from riders who haven't yet got a team place, "if" the Championship let them in... If it comes to it that there is to be no Prem in 2026 but one league the general consensus is that there will be an insufficient number of riders to field a league of More than nine teams at an absolute push. No one should be surprised if none of the Prem clubs come to the tapes in 2026 especially if they are expected to make do with “left overs” for team building. Much better to spend 2026 planning ahead for a seven or eight team Prem in 2027 - if at all. Otherwise it’s a sad farewell to the Aces, Lions, Tigers, Stars & Witches with special thanks to the surviving promoters who really will reap what they sow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 12 hours ago, 1 valve said: ACU licenses can be withdrawn & the FIM. Would support such actions. small “ankle biter” riders and events are not of a concern. Different matter if clubs want to promote & riders want compete in significant alternative league and solo events in opposition to BSPL organisations. Would they? The court cases brought under "restraint of trade" regulations would be interesting. Withdrawal of licenses has been threatened many times but the ACU/BSPL know it's not an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 19 minutes ago, 1 valve said: If it comes to it that there is to be no Prem in 2026 but one league the general consensus is that there will be an insufficient number of riders to field a league of More than nine teams at an absolute push. No one should be surprised if none of the Prem clubs come to the tapes in 2026 especially if they are expected to make do with “left overs” for team building. Much better to spend 2026 planning ahead for a seven or eight team Prem in 2027 - if at all. Otherwise it’s a sad farewell to the Aces, Lions, Tigers, Stars & Witches with special thanks to the surviving promoters who reallyill reap what they sow. Championship Clubs, forced up into the " higher" league, have always had to run with "left overs" so no change there 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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