Bears v tiggers

[SharpenRake]

5 minutes ago, mike baker said:

Glasgow declined to ride the fixtures in August. When both teams had blank dates.

Do you really think this is an appropriate comment after what happened this evening?

[Yearbyred]

A North East Ambulance Service spokesperson said: "We were called to a road traffic incident this evening (12 October) at 19:38 on Dormor Way in Middlesbrough. We dispatched one ambulance crew and one patient was taken to James Cook University Hospital."

[eide67]

41 minutes ago, crescent girl said:

Neither.  Rule 012.1.26.  Team who scored more 5-1s over the two legs is the winner.

Best wishes to the injured supporters.

In the circumstances the result is less important than their welfare but rule 012.1.26 does not say it's the team with most 5-1s, it says it is the team with most heat advantages over the two legs that wins. Which in this case seems to be Redcar (8 heat wins to Glasgow's 7)

Actual wording is:

Any official team fixture abandoned after heat 10 where the score is level,
in either leg and/or on aggregate after the second leg, the extra point will be
decided with the count back system using the results of both legs, if
appropriate. The team who scored the most heat advantages (5-0, 5-1, 4-
2, 3-2, 3-0 in no particular order) will be awarded the extra match point
and/or aggregate point. 

[SteveLyric2]

49 minutes ago, LisaColette said:

I don't think they will announce anything until they know the fans are okay. Fingers crossed they are.

One poster has said it is just on 5-1s which would be a bit harsh seeing as there was only one over the 2 legs.

Another poster has said 5-1s and 4-2s. Both teams have had a good amount of 4-2s, so would be fairer if they were included imo. 

 

Hope that all are OK.

The rule only goes to 4-2s if its not clear from the 5-1s as i understood it but it could be ALL heat advantages. So it would be Tigers on the 5-1 basis or Redcar on total heat advantages.

Edited 14 hours ago by SteveLyric2

[Robinh88]

Had a superheat written all over it. Was a good meeting tonight fingers crossed for everyone affected in Heat 14 

[tyretrax]

44 minutes ago, mike baker said:

Glasgow declined to ride the fixtures in August. When both teams had blank dates.

And your point is? It didn't affect tonights meeting.

[truthsayer]

This incident will have massive repercussions at a tough time for the sport.

More costs incoming...

[Noelinho]

1 hour ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Hope that all are OK.

The rule only goes to 4-2s if its not clear from the 5-1s as i understood it but it could be ALL heat advantages. So it would be Tigers on the 5-1 basis or Redcar on total heat advantages.

"In no particular order" should be understood to mean any heat advantage, no matter the value. 

That's 8-7 in favour of Redcar.

[redlead]

Hopefully, none of the spectators were seriously hurt. It was an awful crash. From what the ref was saying it goes to a ballot. This might change of course with further investigation.

 

[Arthur54]

9 hours ago, truthsayer said:

This incident will have massive repercussions at a tough time for the sport.

More costs incoming...

I did notice the other night, Ace Pijper crashed into the fence on the 4th bend, is there a reason why there is no air fence at that part of the track 

[nagy1]

Hope everyone is ok.

Regardless of what decision the clowns at the governing body make, someone will rightly feel injustice.

Both teams had a fair chance to qualify. My red and white tinted glasses would say Glasgow were more likely to go through though. 
 

Speedy recovery to those that are hurt. Hope the H&S people aren’t too severe. Did Edinburgh have a hard time with them after Cook’s bike went over and hit the photographer(that shouldn’t have been there)?

[scaramanga]

Bikes go over the fence now and then but not a common event thankfully 

Did any one see the bike go over fence at Oulton  Park British super bike round  couple of weeks back 

Lot heavier bike and lot higher fence 

Edited 3 hours ago by scaramanga

[OGT]

15 minutes ago, scaramanga said:

Bikes go over the fence now and then but not a common event thankfully 

Did any one see the bike go over fence at Oulton  Park British super bike round  couple of weeks back 

Lot heavier bike and lot higher fence 

I did see that, yes. Luckily it didn't reach the track on the other side. I think that's happened at other tracks too, but fortunately not where spectators were standing. 

[Biffa]

Would just like to say that the 3rd person that is mentioned took themself to hospital after the meeting. All ok and released soon after. New trousers required, for the rips off the wheel, not what you’re all thinking 😂. Would also like to say a big thank you to Jo(Redcar) and a young lady from Glasgow for attending to the unfortunate gentleman who got hurt. They both gave excellent attention until the paramedics got there & helping the paramedics also. Also well done to all Redcar staff for clearing the area, cordoning off & generally doing what was required. Certainly shook me up seeing it happen, 🤞all is good for everyone. 

[Coraldon]

This is the first time that a bike has gone over the safety fence since Redcar opened in 2006, although it is sad someone was injured, it is not possible to plan for every occasion that happens in our sport, signs and warnings are placed around the circuit stating it is a dangerous sport. I hope commonsense prevails in any decision over this incident. To the injured spectators I hope the injuries are not too serious, get well soon.

[Beirao]

31 minutes ago, nagy1 said:

Hope everyone is ok.

Regardless of what decision the clowns at the governing body make, someone will rightly feel injustice.

Both teams had a fair chance to qualify. My red and white tinted glasses would say Glasgow were more likely to go through though. 
 

Speedy recovery to those that are hurt. Hope the H&S people aren’t too severe. Did Edinburgh have a hard time with them after Cook’s bike went over and hit the photographer(that shouldn’t have been there)?

Surely the meeting should be rerun, possibly on Sunday. It wouldn't delay the competition in any way as the final is likely to be at Poole on Oct 22 and either Redcar or Glasgow on Oct 24.

[LisaColette]

12 minutes ago, Beirao said:

Surely the meeting should be rerun, possibly on Sunday. It wouldn't delay the competition in any way as the final is likely to be at Poole on Oct 22 and either Redcar or Glasgow on Oct 24.

Don't see why they would do that considering it has gone past H10 and there are rules in place for tied aggregate scores when meetings are abandoned. 

[Gazc]

4 minutes ago, LisaColette said:

Don't see why they would do that considering it has gone past H10 and there are rules in place for tied aggregate scores when meetings are abandoned. 

Probably because it would be the right thing to do for both clubs.

Anyway good news in that there appears to be no serious injury .

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

1 hour ago, Biffa said:

Would just like to say that the 3rd person that is mentioned took themself to hospital after the meeting. All ok and released soon after. New trousers required, for the rips off the wheel, not what you’re all thinking 😂. Would also like to say a big thank you to Jo(Redcar) and a young lady from Glasgow for attending to the unfortunate gentleman who got hurt. They both gave excellent attention until the paramedics got there & helping the paramedics also. Also well done to all Redcar staff for clearing the area, cordoning off & generally doing what was required. Certainly shook me up seeing it happen, 🤞all is good for everyone. 

Amazing news. Delighted to hear the person is okay.

Fingers crossed the same is applicable to the offers affected.

49 minutes ago, Gazc said:

Probably because it would be the right thing to do for both clubs.

Pre-determined abandonment rules exist to ensure this doesn’t have to happen.

A re-run of last night’s meeting would undermine the rulebook.

Redcar are going through because they had the most heat advantages.

[Bitza]

45 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

Amazing news. Delighted to hear the person is okay.

Fingers crossed the same is applicable to the offers affected.

Pre-determined abandonment rules exist to ensure this doesn’t have to happen.

A re-run of last night’s meeting would undermine the rulebook.

Redcar are going through because they had the most heat advantages.

Glad to hear that there were no serious injuries, and I wish those affected a speedy recovery. 

The SCB have now issued a statement in which the result of the tie is given on the basis of the number of heat advantages over the two legs, resulting in a Redcar win. Pity it wasn't decided on track, but it is what it is.