Bears v tiggers

[Trackrat]

4 minutes ago, Arthur54 said:

Not as boring as you, same old tripe 

Oh the irony 🤣🤣💩

[Gambo95]

22 minutes ago, Paulco said:

There was no easy way to decide this apart from a replay and there isn't time for that now . 

But they way they have decided it is probably fair enough , good luck to Redcar in the final and I'm glad everyone injured are now back home .

Having a 3 team tournament would have been the fairest way (the way the Jubilee trophy was done a few years ago).

[Colsimmo58]

Glad to hear all involved are ok,and on the mend.

Rules are Rules,i dont think i have come across this one before,But surely this must inspire Tigers to go on and win the League,But whats the betting Poole match will be called off, so they have the second leg at Home.

[Arthur54]

27 minutes ago, Trackrat said:

Oh the irony 🤣🤣💩

Read the rules dinlo, nothing to do with Poole 

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, PersonalResponsibility said:

Great news that nobody is seriously injured. I hope they're all back at a track very soon.

Equally good news for BSN subscribers, feels like it's ages since Redcar v Poole has been on.

is it on BSN though.This Competition has not been so far.

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, redlead said:

Ace was pushed into the fence by Tobias Thompson who was excluded.

 

Not many people agree with you on that one. Just the Ref which is what counted

[szkocjasid]

One suggestion would be to look at the scores after heat 14 in both matches, i.e Glasgow having an advantage of an extra heat at home. This would've been an aggregate win for Redcar.

The bizarre situation is, had the heat advantages been a tie, it would've been a ballot to decide who goes through, I can't think of a more unsatisfactory way to decide a tie.

[Fromafar]

9 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

One suggestion would be to look at the scores after heat 14 in both matches, i.e Glasgow having an advantage of an extra heat at home. This would've been an aggregate win for Redcar.

The bizarre situation is, had the heat advantages been a tie, it would've been a ballot to decide who goes through, I can't think of a more unsatisfactory way to decide a tie.

Don’t need any suggestions,the rules were there.

[Gazc]

Good luck to Redcar in the Final you probably deserve something out  of this season to add to the pairs.

 

[mikebv]

2 hours ago, IainB said:

Crazy isn't it that all these repeat fixtures happen at the end of the season, BSN should have been done and dusted at the end of spring, the KO Cup mid Summer and Pay Offs now.

And it also means fans having to pay out a fair few quid in the same month...

Workington suffered from this when they won the treble, with fans not attending each meeting...

Having all the finals at the end of the season also gives no time to build crowd momentum on the back of any success, as the season just stops...

Advertising yourself as (insert Competition name here), "Champions/Holders" can only spark interest locally in your next home meeting, and onwards through the rest of the season, I would have thought...

I think completing the league first then the cups is the way to go, as advertising your self as "The Champions" for as many meetings as possible can only help crowd levels...

And it also gives clubs well out of league contention early in the season a chance to still have meaningful matches until the end of the season, rather than "dead rubbers" which have no impact on play off positions...

 

[Noelinho]

You could of course have two home, two away, and drop a competition (or maybe two 😱) and then have less disparity in the number of home meetings for each side. Rather than Berwick having 11 and Glasgow/Poole having something like 18, maybe everyone would have closer to 16. That would make a lot more sense. It's not like we get many shock winners of all the cups, sometimes we can't even be bothered to arrange the finals because it seems teams get bored of winning...

[Trackrat]

2 hours ago, Arthur54 said:

Read the rules dinlo, nothing to do with Poole 

Name called again zzzzzzz

[szkocjasid]

3 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Don’t need any suggestions,the rules were there.

I don't mean this time, rules are in place. I mean for future occurrences, to try for a more satisfactory decision (if they don't want to have a re-staging).

[Fromafar]

9 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

I don't mean this time, rules are in place. I mean for future occurrences, to try for a more satisfactory decision (if they don't want to have a re-staging).

Surely a more satisfactory decision would be a re -staging.IMO.

Scotty with his stupid coin will probably what they would come up with though.🤔

[szkocjasid]

Just now, Fromafar said:

Surely a more satisfactory decision would be a re -staging.IMO.

Scotty with his stupid coin will probably what they would come up with though.🤔

Can't really trust the clubs to get all the fixtures on to allow re-stagings tbh.

The fact 3 finals are having to be raced in October despite clubs having fewer fixtures these days, shows that.

In an ideal world I'd agree with you.

My plan would be to never let it go to a ballot (thankfully this didn't) by adding more ways to decide a tie.

[northyorksbear]

6 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

Can't really trust the clubs to get all the fixtures on to allow re-stagings tbh.

The fact 3 finals are having to be raced in October despite clubs having fewer fixtures these days, shows that.

In an ideal world I'd agree with you.

My plan would be to never let it go to a ballot (thankfully this didn't) by adding more ways to decide a tie.

Two teams have a tug of war

OR - team captains arm wrestle (would have said wrestle, but seen Charles in action give Redcar huge advantage 😆) and would have said TMs, but that give Glasgow big advantage (IMO)

 

 

[Steve Shovlar]

First of all glad to hear that any injuries to the fans were minor. Like the Edinburgh incident when Craig Cooks? flying bike struck a photographer, it seems the fans got off likely. 
 

Secondly such a shame the meeting was decided in such a way. With it all square with one to go, the round was on a knife edge and either team could have gone through. Glasgow must feel hard done by, Redcar relieved. Neither club deserved to be knocked out in such a manner. But the rules are in place for such a scenario and were implemented. Congrats to Redcar, commiserations to Glasgow.

[MANSE]

6 hours ago, NeilWatson said:

FOLLOWING the abandonment of the Redcar v Glasgow BSN Series semi-final 2nd leg on Sunday October 12 prior to Heat 15, with the scores all level on aggregate but being unable to decide a winner of the tie on track, the Speedway Control Bureau have made the following statement.


There is no alternative with the scores level on aggregate at the time of the BSN Series semi-final being abandoned, and the result of the tie will have to be decided by SCB Regulation 012.1.26 Abandonment, which states:

"The team who scored the most heat advantages (5-0, 5-1, 4-2, 3-2, 3-0 in no particular order) over the two legs will be awarded the aggregate win."

Over the two legs the heat advantages were as follows -

• Redcar scored 8 x 4-2s (4 in the 1st leg, and four in the 2nd leg)
• Glasgow scored 1 x 5-1 and 6 x 4-2s (a 5-1 and 3 x 4-2s in the 1st leg, and 3 x 4-2s in the 2nd leg)

Therefore over the two legs, Redcar had one extra heat advantage and will qualify for the 2025 BSN Series Final.

The SCB wishes all the people involved in the incident at Redcar during Heat 14 a speedy recovery.

 

[MANSE]

Just now, MANSE said:

Surely Glasgows 5-1  should be awarded a bonus point giving them a 1 pt Win

 

[szkocjasid]

Can someone explain the logic behind the rule. If most heat advantages decide the tie, what's the reasoning behind two 4-2s being better than a 5-1 & a 3-3?