TTT Posted 16 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 16 hours ago Just now, PhilTheAce said: only you and other fans think that 100% of aces fans would have dan and brady in our team any day of the week, and killer in a settled team where he will get paid, with no pressure of having to score big points in a struggling set up with thrive IMHO Not at all. I'm pretty sure most Aces fans were underwhelmed deep down when Kildemand was announced. Nobody will admit it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 2 minutes ago, TTT said: Not at all. I'm pretty sure most Aces fans were underwhelmed deep down when Kildemand was announced. Nobody will admit it though. belle vue fans not shy to say what they think and ive seen far more positivity than not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago Replacing Lidsey with Kildemand shows that the team is much weaker this season Absolute guaranteed entertainment but nothing to address the fact the team can’t ride away from home and ultimately that will be their downfall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago Just now, Gavan said: Replacing Lidsey with Kildemand shows that the team is much weaker this season Absolute guaranteed entertainment but nothing to address the fact the team can’t ride away from home and ultimately that will be their downfall You mean we had to weaken our team, with a dropped team building average, wow i didn't expect that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Gavan said: Replacing Lidsey with Kildemand shows that the team is much weaker this season Absolute guaranteed entertainment but nothing to address the fact the team can’t ride away from home and ultimately that will be their downfall hang on a minute, you do realise how team averages work dont you, even your not that stupid, or so i thought 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 5 minutes ago, TTT said: Not at all. I'm pretty sure most Aces fans were underwhelmed deep down when Kildemand was announced. Nobody will admit it though. Please stop speaking for other teams fans, you drop into every thread telling fans what they should think. I am certain there isn't a single Aces fan who would want to drop one of Bewley or Kurtz. I said 2 years ago, id keep both for the next decade and build a team each year around them. Of course you wanted the Aces to drop Dan as you were absolutely desperate to have him at Ipswich. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago Just now, PhilTheAce said: hang on a minute, you do realise how team averages work dont you, even your not that stupid, or so i thought Of course I know that but sometimes you can replace a rider with one that might improve to get his average close to what the outgoing rider averaged ….. can’t see that at all with Kildemand And as mentioned a team that struggles away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 3 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: Please stop speaking for other teams fans, you drop into every thread telling fans what they should think. I am certain there isn't a single Aces fan who would want to drop one of Bewley or Kurtz. I said 2 years ago, id keep both for the next decade and build a team each year around them. Of course you wanted the Aces to drop Dan as you were absolutely desperate to have him at Ipswich. Of course you want those 2 back … in the worlds elite and great to watch at the NSS and would have loved Dan at Ipswich … not so much Kurtz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 11 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: Please stop speaking for other teams fans, you drop into every thread telling fans what they should think. I am certain there isn't a single Aces fan who would want to drop one of Bewley or Kurtz. I said 2 years ago, id keep both for the next decade and build a team each year around them. Of course you wanted the Aces to drop Dan as you were absolutely desperate to have him at Ipswich. Can't say I was - would rather have had Doyle and Emil but there you go, love Dan but couldnt see hoim at Foxhall ,myself when he has the NSS to ride each week. Must admit didn't see the Kildemend signing coming but he is good to watch so be interesting to see how he does. Not so convinced about Blordorn however he hasn't made the progress i would have wanted / expected of him if I was an Aces fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 15 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 11 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: Please stop speaking for other teams fans, you drop into every thread telling fans what they should think. I am certain there isn't a single Aces fan who would want to drop one of Bewley or Kurtz. I said 2 years ago, id keep both for the next decade and build a team each year around them. Of course you wanted the Aces to drop Dan as you were absolutely desperate to have him at Ipswich. No I don't, It's a public forum and I'm entitled to post an opinion. 1 Year ago fans were on here, X, Facebook etc. all taking the pish out of Oxford for signing Kildemand so I don't buy into the fact that Belle Vue fans are happy to sign the same Ageing Injury Prone Rider on a highly inflated GSA due to him taking 5-7 Rides a night at reserve when they were expecting a Young and Exciting Talent like Hellstrom-Bangs on a 5.00 Assessed GSA. I'm delighted that you've kept Kurtz and Bewley because it means that Belle Vue pose no threat of winning anything again as they've got no backup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 4 hours ago, TTT said: Was it really worth keeping Brady and Dan? Tail end will need drastic improvement to mount any kind of challenge imo. Mathematically they could have gone along the lines of, Rew, Cook, Tungate and Howarth/PHB making Blodorn start at reserve which feels a lot more potent than what looks like the inevitable line up, especially away from home. Still having the world no 2 & 3 in your side is some going. When was the last time that happened over here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 1 minute ago, DJC said: Mathematically they could have gone along the lines of, Rew, Cook, Tungate and Howarth/PHB making Blodorn start at reserve which feels a lot more potent than what looks like the inevitable line up, especially away from home. Still having the world no 2 & 3 in your side is some going. When was the last time that happened over here? Personally I would have retained Bewley and let Kurtz go to give a far more solid all round team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 4 minutes ago, DJC said: Mathematically they could have gone along the lines of, Rew, Cook, Tungate and Howarth/PHB making Blodorn start at reserve which feels a lot more potent than what looks like the inevitable line up, especially away from home. Still having the world no 2 & 3 in your side is some going. When was the last time that happened over here? Lynn had the world number 1 and 2 in 1980. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 15 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 4 minutes ago, DJC said: Mathematically they could have gone along the lines of, Rew, Cook, Tungate and Howarth/PHB making Blodorn start at reserve which feels a lot more potent than what looks like the inevitable line up, especially away from home. Still having the world no 2 & 3 in your side is some going. When was the last time that happened over here? I was worried about what Belle Vue could do with a 37.00 Limit because alot of riders who go well around the NSS are on very nice GSA's like some of the names you've mentioned along with others like Wright and Zagar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago Can’t see Ipswich repeating last season’s win as in losing Doyle and Emil , they’ve lost that fear factor in a 1 and 2 . It’s not possible to improve on those 2 , so they’ll be relying heavily on their second strings and reserves to step up regularly. And as Thompson has also left , that makes that even harder. But we’ll see . The excitement is building … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 1 minute ago, TTT said: I was worried about what Belle Vue could do with a 37.00 Limit because alot of riders who go well around the NSS are on very nice GSA's like some of the names you've mentioned along with others like Wright and Zagar. I was going purely on Lemons tendency for of a majority Aussie side, but there are quite a few out there, I was even expecting Puk there when Lynn announced their side (perhaps Foxhall bound?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Lynn had the world number 1 and 2 in 1980. Did they win that year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 33 minutes ago, TTT said: No I don't, It's a public forum and I'm entitled to post an opinion. 1 Year ago fans were on here, X, Facebook etc. all taking the pish out of Oxford for signing Kildemand so I don't buy into the fact that Belle Vue fans are happy to sign the same Ageing Injury Prone Rider on a highly inflated GSA due to him taking 5-7 Rides a night at reserve when they were expecting a Young and Exciting Talent like Hellstrom-Bangs on a 5.00 Assessed GSA. I'm delighted that you've kept Kurtz and Bewley because it means that Belle Vue pose no threat of winning anything again as they've got no backup. We've signed him as a no4, not a heat leader or back up to them. Totally different circumstances........ in a weakened league to Edited 15 hours ago by PhilTheAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim G Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Lynn had the world number 1 and 2 in 1980. Oxford did that in 1989 aswell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 12 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Did they win that year? Not the league. 1980 British League Table Team..Played..Won..Drawn..Lost..Points 1..Reading..32..24..1..7..49 2..Hackney..32..23..0..9..46 3..Belle Vue..32..21..1..10..43 4..Coventry..32..20..2..10..42 5..Cradley Heath..32..20..0..12..40 6..Ipswich..32..16..2..14..34 7..Kings Lynn..32..17..0..15..34 8..Swindon..32..16..2..14..34 9..Poole..32..15..2..15..32 10..Halifax..32..15..1..16..31 11..Leicester..32..14..0..18..28 12..Hull..32..11..5..16..27 13..Wimbledon..32..12..2..18..26 14..Birmingham..32..11..1..20..23 15..Wolverhampton..32..9..2..21..20 16..Eastbourne..32..9..1..22..19 17..Sheffield..32..8..0..24..1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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