Bandits v Comets KO Cup 1/4 Final Sat 25/4/26 7pm

[H20]

This whole incident was how not to run a sport.

I was watching the stream and the angle definately backed the referee's original call and it should have stayed that way. The way it unfolded was embarassing to say the least, even the phone footage made it a 50 50 call as you could say Cook was leading and Battye should not have gone for a pass that was not on which to me was what Jackobson did trying to go around Battye on that same turn. It's a big manouve to try and pass around the outside at Berwick and pull it off that high.

Greg should still have been no where near the box to be in a position to show the referee anything but as for Willie to actually watch it well I still can not belive he did never mind then change his already made announcement.

Was not going to change the meeting much as Berwick were fantastic out of the gate espesially prior to ht9 but was still wrong.

[Fromafar]

13 minutes ago, H20 said:

This whole incident was how not to run a sport.

I was watching the stream and the angle definately backed the referee's original call and it should have stayed that way. The way it unfolded was embarassing to say the least, even the phone footage made it a 50 50 call as you could say Cook was leading and Battye should not have gone for a pass that was not on which to me was what Jackobson did trying to go around Battye on that same turn. It's a big manouve to try and pass around the outside at Berwick and pull it off that high.

Greg should still have been no where near the box to be in a position to show the referee anything but as for Willie to actually watch it well I still can not belive he did never mind then change his already made announcement.

Was not going to change the meeting much as Berwick were fantastic out of the gate espesially prior to ht9 but was still wrong.

It doesn’t matter which Team you support it was pretty poor situation all round.IMO.Dishington should be reprimanded for his handling of it.Thats Speedway though.👎

[SPEEDY69]

I haven't seen any of the meeting, just reading comments on here but I'm not particularly a fan of video replays.  Plenty of contact is made in the sport but much of this is not enough to create a fall but unfortunately I think replays encourage riders to do exactly that as they know they'll get back in the re-run.  I've seen it so many times, from Harris in a British Final to Nicki P & Hans A in GPs.  Those who choose to stay on, as they should, can feel aggrieved but to fall on purpose risks injury to self and others.  There shouldn't need to be a fall for exclusions to occur.

As I said, this is not about this particular incident as I haven't seen it. 

[SteelShoe]

1 hour ago, Whitelinehugger said:

And no mention of supporters footage from mobiles 

With the speed of advances in AI its not hard to foresee that it won't be long until you will be able to do near real time modifications to video footage anyway so only official footage should be used.

[szkocjasid]

1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said:

I haven't seen any of the meeting, just reading comments on here but I'm not particularly a fan of video replays.  Plenty of contact is made in the sport but much of this is not enough to create a fall but unfortunately I think replays encourage riders to do exactly that as they know they'll get back in the re-run.  I've seen it so many times, from Harris in a British Final to Nicki P & Hans A in GPs.  Those who choose to stay on, as they should, can feel aggrieved but to fall on purpose risks injury to self and others.  There shouldn't need to be a fall for exclusions to occur.

As I said, this is not about this particular incident as I haven't seen it. 

Totally agree with this, I've seen riders get absolutely clattered & stay on, so nothing is done. Get barely brushed & slide off, so opposition gets excluded.

Haven't seen the Cook & Battye incident, so can't comment on if I agree with decision, but surely a ref shouldn't announce a decision & then afterwards watch a replay to change his mind, especially an unofficial one.

[Neila]

2 hours ago, Fromafar said:

It doesn’t matter which Team you support it was pretty poor situation all round.IMO.Dishington should be reprimanded for his handling of it.Thats Speedway though.👎

Don't forget Blair as he is supposed to be an impartial announcer, not running up to the referee with 3rd party footage, as an ex rider ( but not a very good one 😜 ) he should just let the referee make a decision good or bad and not get involved 

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

11 minutes ago, Neila said:

Don't forget Blair as he is supposed to be an impartial announcer, not running up to the referee with 3rd party footage, as an ex rider ( but not a very good one 😜 ) he should just let the referee make a decision good or bad and not get involved 

Blair didn’t supply the footage, or do anything like that from what I understand. The footage was sent to the box, presumably to the announcer, or the commentators or someone. Not via Blair, but for what it’s worth I don’t really like him, bring back Dick Barrie.

 

[Fromafar]

32 minutes ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said:

Blair didn’t supply the footage, or do anything like that from what I understand. The footage was sent to the box, presumably to the announcer, or the commentators or someone. Not via Blair, but for what it’s worth I don’t really like him, bring back Dick Barrie.

 

Blair is Marmite Character.IMO

[Neila]

Another grumble the sound system at Berwick needs sorting out, I was stood at the end of the stand just before the 3rd bend and got a mixture of speaker from the stand and the speakers on the centre green, but seemed a second or 2 delay between them it was all of a mumble, maybe a good job as I couldn't here Greg properly 😜. And yes yesterday the sound at worky was a bit loud but at least you could here it

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

40 minutes ago, Neila said:

Another grumble the sound system at Berwick needs sorting out, I was stood at the end of the stand just before the 3rd bend and got a mixture of speaker from the stand and the speakers on the centre green, but seemed a second or 2 delay between them it was all of a mumble, maybe a good job as I couldn't here Greg properly 😜. And yes yesterday the sound at worky was a bit loud but at least you could here it

Yep having been at both it really was night and day for the speaker systems. A lot of people have moaned, but I believe the speakers will fall under the football club’s list, and they haven’t got a pot to p*** in.

[George Dodds]

Been asked to post this by Greg Blair 

 

Hello everyone, Greg Blair here I’ve not got an account on this forum as I don’t usually come on this page but it’s been brought to my attention I’ve been getting some heat on it, just want to clear this up.

 I didn’t go up to the box to show the ref any footage, I’m often up in the box changing batteries or getting coffee and sometimes just making sure everything is running well, Steve the announcer is a good friend of mine and I went up when I heard the ref was away to view the footage in the commentary box just to ask him what was going on so I could relay any info I had.

All in all I had no influence on what the ref did, I’ve seen decisions reversed before so it wasn’t anything new!

Of course I’m going to get comments about my performances at Berwick or on BSN and it even made me laugh that this person said I wasn’t a very good rider.

Hey I had a go and I loved racing bikes (not being very good at it) I love what I do in speedway, I’m happy to entertain and get a laugh but honestly if you want to have a go I welcome you to try it.

Things happen in the moment, I’m passionate about my sport and Berwick speedway which I hold very close to my heart, I won’t say sorry for my passion!

The only time I’ll ever say sorry is if I offend someone and in this case I haven’t so I’m blowing everyone who dislikes me kisses and the ones who do support me you’re getting bigger kisses!

Enjoy your speedway folks x

PS if you want to come and chat to me in person you can usually find me in the black and gold ... that's if you’re comfortable having a dig at me without hiding behind the username

Edited 8 hours ago by George Dodds

[Woke23]

2 hours ago, George Dodds said:

Been asked to post this by Greg Blair 

 

Hello everyone, Greg Blair here I’ve not got an account on this forum as I don’t usually come on this page but it’s been brought to my attention I’ve been getting some heat on it, just want to clear this up.

 I didn’t go up to the box to show the ref any footage, I’m often up in the box changing batteries or getting coffee and sometimes just making sure everything is running well, Steve the announcer is a good friend of mine and I went up when I heard the ref was away to view the footage in the commentary box just to ask him what was going on so I could relay any info I had.

All in all I had no influence on what the ref did, I’ve seen decisions reversed before so it wasn’t anything new!

Of course I’m going to get comments about my performances at Berwick or on BSN and it even made me laugh that this person said I wasn’t a very good rider.

Hey I had a go and I loved racing bikes (not being very good at it) I love what I do in speedway, I’m happy to entertain and get a laugh but honestly if you want to have a go I welcome you to try it.

Things happen in the moment, I’m passionate about my sport and Berwick speedway which I hold very close to my heart, I won’t say sorry for my passion!

The only time I’ll ever say sorry is if I offend someone and in this case I haven’t so I’m blowing everyone who dislikes me kisses and the ones who do support me you’re getting bigger kisses!

Enjoy your speedway folks x

PS if you want to come and chat to me in person you can usually find me in the black and gold ... that's if you’re comfortable having a dig at me without hiding behind the username

 

2 hours ago, George Dodds said:

Been asked to post this by Greg Blair 

 

Hello everyone, Greg Blair here I’ve not got an account on this forum as I don’t usually come on this page but it’s been brought to my attention I’ve been getting some heat on it, just want to clear this up.

 I didn’t go up to the box to show the ref any footage, I’m often up in the box changing batteries or getting coffee and sometimes just making sure everything is running well, Steve the announcer is a good friend of mine and I went up when I heard the ref was away to view the footage in the commentary box just to ask him what was going on so I could relay any info I had.

All in all I had no influence on what the ref did, I’ve seen decisions reversed before so it wasn’t anything new!

Of course I’m going to get comments about my performances at Berwick or on BSN and it even made me laugh that this person said I wasn’t a very good rider.

Hey I had a go and I loved racing bikes (not being very good at it) I love what I do in speedway, I’m happy to entertain and get a laugh but honestly if you want to have a go I welcome you to try it.

Things happen in the moment, I’m passionate about my sport and Berwick speedway which I hold very close to my heart, I won’t say sorry for my passion!

The only time I’ll ever say sorry is if I offend someone and in this case I haven’t so I’m blowing everyone who dislikes me kisses and the ones who do support me you’re getting bigger kisses!

Enjoy your speedway folks x

PS if you want to come and chat to me in person you can usually find me in the black and gold ... that's if you’re comfortable having a dig at me without hiding behind the username

This just makes him sound like a bigger prat tbh. 

"Comfortable having a dig at me without hiding behind a username" is somewhat threatening. Big man Greg never fails to surprise me.

Also, he most certainly did affect the decision with him shouting over the mic that its the worst decision hes ever seen in speedway, riling the fans up.

 

[Woke23]

Also just seen the Workington promotion have put a complaint in to SCB. Correct thing to do to hopefully stop it happening again.

[Weeyin]

4 minutes ago, Woke23 said:

 

This just makes him sound like a bigger prat tbh. 

"Comfortable having a dig at me without hiding behind a username" is somewhat threatening. Big man Greg never fails to surprise me.

Also, he most certainly did affect the decision with him shouting over the mic that its the worst decision hes ever seen in speedway, riling the fans up.

 

You seem to have some beef with Greg, have some grace, I find him entertaining, especially on bsn, however at Berwick , I cannot comment as couldn't hear a thing on the back straight when there with Glasgow.

[Fromafar]

35 minutes ago, Woke23 said:

Also just seen the Workington promotion have put a complaint in to SCB. Correct thing to do to hopefully stop it happening again.

Agree,the ref was the instigator of all the problems with his indecision though.

[Bagpuss]

This is a familiar BSF tale of somebody stating something as fact, lots of others jumping on the bandwagon and a fifteenth story revealing itself later on. 

[Fromafar]

3 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

This is a familiar BSF tale of somebody stating something as fact, lots of others jumping on the bandwagon and a fifteenth story revealing itself later on. 

It would be a Comedy Classic in any other sport.😂😂

[Fromafar]

3 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

This is a familiar BSF tale of somebody stating something as fact, lots of others jumping on the bandwagon and a fifteenth story revealing itself later on. 

It would be a Comedy Classic in any other sport.😂😂

[Woke23]

1 hour ago, Weeyin said:

You seem to have some beef with Greg, have some grace, I find him entertaining, especially on bsn, however at Berwick , I cannot comment as couldn't hear a thing on the back straight when there with Glasgow.

Beef would suggest I have had an issue with him for a while. I havent. I have had an issue with how he acted on Saturday.

Crash happened, ref made a decision, Greg cries over mic saying its worst decision he's ever seen.

He runs up to ref box, stays in there for a while (just asking what's happening though), and then returns to centre green stating  "yous wont be happy folks, looks like the ref is sticking with his decision".

A minute later, decision is changed.

Awfully Unprofessional and needs to hide his bias when doing what hes doing.

Also, no consideration for the injured riders when, straight after the incident, he asks the referee what's the scores. 

Prat.

Edited 4 hours ago by Woke23