Vince Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago Well I've been around the flat track scene in the UK for a fair few years and clearly still know sod all! Very impressive result by Ashton Boughen, I honestly didn't believe it was possible to get to that level so quickly coming from Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 7 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said: so Boughen wins the 1st round of the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP in only his fourth meeting on a flat track bike but DEAN MACHINE still reckons he has a mental block. If you watch his races you would see anything but a mental block . Good luck to the lad if he's found a type of bike racing that suits him, meself and Dean Machine and a few others were only saying what we'd witnessed last season when he jacked in speedway, no one was doubting the lads talent on a bike, hopefully if he continues to do well and excel in Flat Track racing he may well be tempted back into speedway at some point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 4 minutes ago, kevin bass said: Good luck to the lad if he's found a type of bike racing that suits him, meself and Dean Machine and a few others were only saying what we'd witnessed last season when he jacked in speedway, no one was doubting the lads talent on a bike, hopefully if he continues to do well and excel in Flat Track racing he may well be tempted back into speedway at some point. Absolutely agree but this backing off on a speedway track went back more than last season. I really hope he's found his place because he's a natural on a bike and I wish him all the best. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan1980 Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago British motocross champion, British super cross champion, world no 8 motocross, European mx champion, speedway 500cc champion, representing team GB speedway in Poland 15 points. now goes flat track for factory signing deal with Ducati. He tried flattrack just over a month ago and has only done two practice days on flattrack ever! Two practice days, One Italian championship for his 3rd outing finishing 2nd and his 4th day riding flat track he goes to the world championships in Roden and wins it. Maybe if we didn’t have so many idiots in this country who knock the youngsters on there bad days they wouldn’t disappear 🫠 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Fan1980 said: British motocross champion, British super cross champion, world no 8 motocross, European mx champion, speedway 500cc champion, representing team GB speedway in Poland 15 points. now goes flat track for factory signing deal with Ducati. He tried flattrack just over a month ago and has only done two practice days on flattrack ever! Two practice days, One Italian championship for his 3rd outing finishing 2nd and his 4th day riding flat track he goes to the world championships in Roden and wins it. Maybe if we didn’t have so many idiots in this country who knock the youngsters on there bad days they wouldn’t disappear 🫠 When was his good day? The most he ever scored was 7... on his debut and he matched that in his penultimate match. Some on here went completely overboard hyping the lad up because he outgated and beat some established names through his short Speedway career Fri Aug 25th 2023 Oxford v Plymouth (CP) 7 3, 2, 1, 0, 1' 7 1 Tue Sep 5th 2023 Oxford v Scunthorpe (CP) 7 2, 1', 0, 2' 5 2 Fri Sep 8th 2023 Glasgow v Oxford (CP) 7 0, 1', 1', 0, T 2 2 Wed Sep 13th 2023 Oxford v Glasgow (CPPOB) 6 3, 0, 1', 0 4 1 Fri Sep 22nd 2023 Redcar v Oxford (CPPOB) 7 0, 0, 0 0 Sun Sep 24th 2023 Oxford v Redcar (CPPOB) 7 0, 1, 0, 0 1 Tue Oct 3rd 2023 Glasgow v Oxford (CPPOB) 7 1'~, 1, 0 2 1 Thu Mar 14th 2024 Oxford v Birmingham (PRa) 7 1', 1, 1, 0 3 1 Thu Mar 21st 2024 Oxford v Sheffield (PRa) 7 0, 0, 1, 0 1 Mon Apr 1st 2024 Birmingham v Oxford (PRa) 7 0, 0, 1' 1 1 Thu Apr 11th 2024 Oxford v Ipswich (PRa) 7 0, 0, 0, 0 0 Thu Apr 18th 2024 Ipswich v Oxford (PRa) 7 0, 3, 1 4 Thu Apr 25th 2024 Oxford v King's Lynn (PRa) 7 1, 0, 1, 1 3 Thu May 2nd 2024 Sheffield v Oxford (PRa) 7 0, 0, 0 0 Mon May 13th 2024 Belle Vue v Oxford (PRa) 7 0, 0, 1' 1 1 Thu May 23rd 2024 Oxford v Belle Vue (PRa) 7 3, 0, 1, 0 4 Mon May 27th 2024 Leicester v Oxford (PRa) 7 1', 0, 0 1 1 Mon Jun 3rd 2024 Oxford v Leicester (PRa) 7 3, 2, 1, 0 6 Thu Jun 13th 2024 Oxford v Ipswich (PRb) (Aban) 7 0, 0 0 Mon Jun 17th 2024 King's Lynn v Oxford (PRa) 7 0, 2, 0 2 Thu Jun 27th 2024 Ipswich v Oxford (PRb) 7 0, 1', 3, 0, 0 4 1 Mon Jul 1st 2024 Oxford v Sheffield (PRb) 7 0, 3, 1', 0, 0 4 1 Thu Jul 4th 2024 Oxford v Ipswich (PRb) 7 0, 0, 3, 3, 0 6 Mon Jul 8th 2024 Birmingham v Oxford (PRb) 7 0, 0, 0, 0 0 Thu Jul 18th 2024 Oxford v Belle Vue (PRb) 7 0, 0, 1 1 Mon Jul 22nd 2024 Belle Vue v Oxford (PRb) 6 2, 0, 0 2 Thu Jul 25th 2024 Sheffield v Oxford (PRb) 6 1', 1, 0, 0 2 1 Thu Aug 1st 2024 Oxford v Birmingham (PRb) 6 2, 0, 0, 1' 3 1 Thu Aug 15th 2024 Oxford v King's Lynn (PRb) 6 3, 1, X, 0 4 Mon Aug 19th 2024 Leicester v Oxford (PRb) 6 3, 0, 0, 0 3 Thu Aug 22nd 2024 King's Lynn v Oxford (PRb) 6 1, 0, 0, 1, 3 5 Thu Aug 29th 2024 Oxford v Leicester (PRb) 6 2, 0, 0, 1' 3 1 Fri Apr 4th 2025 Edinburgh v Glasgow (Ch) 2 0, 0 0 Fri Apr 11th 2025 Glasgow v Edinburgh (Ch) 2 T, 0, 3, 0 3 Sat Apr 19th 2025 Berwick v Glasgow (BSNSC) 2 0, 1', 1', 1 3 2 Fri Apr 25th 2025 Edinburgh v Glasgow (BSNSC) 2 3, 1', 2, 0 6 1 Sun May 4th 2025 Glasgow v Berwick (BSNSC) 2 0, 1, T, 0 1 Fri May 9th 2025 Glasgow v Edinburgh (BSNSC) 2 T, 0, 2, R 2 Sat May 10th 2025 Plymouth v Glasgow (CP) 2 0, 0, 3, 0 3 Fri May 16th 2025 Scunthorpe v Glasgow (CP) 2 3, 0, 3, 1 7 Fri May 30th 2025 Edinburgh v Glasgow (CPKO) 2 0, 0 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 4 hours ago, kevin bass said: Good luck to the lad if he's found a type of bike racing that suits him, meself and Dean Machine and a few others were only saying what we'd witnessed last season when he jacked in speedway, no one was doubting the lads talent on a bike, hopefully if he continues to do well and excel in Flat Track racing he may well be tempted back into speedway at some point. I doubt he would want another venture in a dying sport 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) I'm struggling to find the evidence @IainB but I'm sure Boughen had a purple patch in 2024 just before he had a nasty crash at the British U21 final at Redcar after which his scores returned to the norm. EDIT here's a 13+1 at Glasgow: https://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/22903/oxford-championship-08-09-2024 Edited 10 hours ago by Bagpuss 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan1980 Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 22 minutes ago, IainB said: When was his good day? The most he ever scored was 7... on his debut and he matched that in his penultimate match. Some on here went completely overboard hyping the lad up because he outgated and beat some established names through his short Speedway career Fri Aug 25th 2023 Oxford v Plymouth (CP) 7 3, 2, 1, 0, 1' 7 1 Tue Sep 5th 2023 Oxford v Scunthorpe (CP) 7 2, 1', 0, 2' 5 2 Fri Sep 8th 2023 Glasgow v Oxford (CP) 7 0, 1', 1', 0, T 2 2 Wed Sep 13th 2023 Oxford v Glasgow (CPPOB) 6 3, 0, 1', 0 4 1 Fri Sep 22nd 2023 Redcar v Oxford (CPPOB) 7 0, 0, 0 0 Sun Sep 24th 2023 Oxford v Redcar (CPPOB) 7 0, 1, 0, 0 1 Tue Oct 3rd 2023 Glasgow v Oxford (CPPOB) 7 1'~, 1, 0 2 1 Thu Mar 14th 2024 Oxford v Birmingham (PRa) 7 1', 1, 1, 0 3 1 Thu Mar 21st 2024 Oxford v Sheffield (PRa) 7 0, 0, 1, 0 1 Mon Apr 1st 2024 Birmingham v Oxford (PRa) 7 0, 0, 1' 1 1 Thu Apr 11th 2024 Oxford v Ipswich (PRa) 7 0, 0, 0, 0 0 Thu Apr 18th 2024 Ipswich v Oxford (PRa) 7 0, 3, 1 4 Thu Apr 25th 2024 Oxford v King's Lynn (PRa) 7 1, 0, 1, 1 3 Thu May 2nd 2024 Sheffield v Oxford (PRa) 7 0, 0, 0 0 Mon May 13th 2024 Belle Vue v Oxford (PRa) 7 0, 0, 1' 1 1 Thu May 23rd 2024 Oxford v Belle Vue (PRa) 7 3, 0, 1, 0 4 Mon May 27th 2024 Leicester v Oxford (PRa) 7 1', 0, 0 1 1 Mon Jun 3rd 2024 Oxford v Leicester (PRa) 7 3, 2, 1, 0 6 Thu Jun 13th 2024 Oxford v Ipswich (PRb) (Aban) 7 0, 0 0 Mon Jun 17th 2024 King's Lynn v Oxford (PRa) 7 0, 2, 0 2 Thu Jun 27th 2024 Ipswich v Oxford (PRb) 7 0, 1', 3, 0, 0 4 1 Mon Jul 1st 2024 Oxford v Sheffield (PRb) 7 0, 3, 1', 0, 0 4 1 Thu Jul 4th 2024 Oxford v Ipswich (PRb) 7 0, 0, 3, 3, 0 6 Mon Jul 8th 2024 Birmingham v Oxford (PRb) 7 0, 0, 0, 0 0 Thu Jul 18th 2024 Oxford v Belle Vue (PRb) 7 0, 0, 1 1 Mon Jul 22nd 2024 Belle Vue v Oxford (PRb) 6 2, 0, 0 2 Thu Jul 25th 2024 Sheffield v Oxford (PRb) 6 1', 1, 0, 0 2 1 Thu Aug 1st 2024 Oxford v Birmingham (PRb) 6 2, 0, 0, 1' 3 1 Thu Aug 15th 2024 Oxford v King's Lynn (PRb) 6 3, 1, X, 0 4 Mon Aug 19th 2024 Leicester v Oxford (PRb) 6 3, 0, 0, 0 3 Thu Aug 22nd 2024 King's Lynn v Oxford (PRb) 6 1, 0, 0, 1, 3 5 Thu Aug 29th 2024 Oxford v Leicester (PRb) 6 2, 0, 0, 1' 3 1 Fri Apr 4th 2025 Edinburgh v Glasgow (Ch) 2 0, 0 0 Fri Apr 11th 2025 Glasgow v Edinburgh (Ch) 2 T, 0, 3, 0 3 Sat Apr 19th 2025 Berwick v Glasgow (BSNSC) 2 0, 1', 1', 1 3 2 Fri Apr 25th 2025 Edinburgh v Glasgow (BSNSC) 2 3, 1', 2, 0 6 1 Sun May 4th 2025 Glasgow v Berwick (BSNSC) 2 0, 1, T, 0 1 Fri May 9th 2025 Glasgow v Edinburgh (BSNSC) 2 T, 0, 2, R 2 Sat May 10th 2025 Plymouth v Glasgow (CP) 2 0, 0, 3, 0 3 Fri May 16th 2025 Scunthorpe v Glasgow (CP) 2 3, 0, 3, 1 7 Fri May 30th 2025 Edinburgh v Glasgow (CPKO) 2 0, 0 0 Ian he was 16 with 1 years experience in the sport! What about the 15 point maximum at Redcar? 13 points Glasgow? It’s people like YOU that completely ruins our sport for the young guns. He’s beat Jason Doyle while Jason was leading the GP if I remember rightly!? Chris holder, bomber, majic , Lawson and plenty more!!! he was 16/17 with no previous experience in speedway but still people like you didn’t give him a proper chance other than pick on his bad days and kept quite on his good! I really hope he doesn’t return to speedway as I’ve followed him from a young age and the talent he has on two wheels is outstanding. Speedway is 50% bike set up and 50% rider ability and with his lack of experience I am sure his bike was set up incorrectly a lot of the time. He was one of the best mx riders in the world for his age where his talent on a bike was shown by his ability. He can now do the same with flattrack as it’s not the bike set up that wins races it’s the rider riding it. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago He is clearly a very talented motorcyclist ... Given the way he "backed off" when surrounded by other riders when riding Speedway, maybe having brakes on a bike gives him the confidence to keep riding "full on", knowing he can stop the bike whenever he needs to... Even towards the end of his Speedway time he could still get out of the start and win races comfortably, showing that on an open track he could ride full on and fast... Hopefully he can still return to the sport and overcome his obvious challenges, as he certainly is more than fast enough to be a decent level rider... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim G Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 58 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I'm struggling to find the evidence @IainB but I'm sure Boughen had a purple patch in 2024 just before he had a nasty crash at the British U21 final at Redcar after which his scores returned to the norm. EDIT here's a 13+1 at Glasgow: https://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/22903/oxford-championship-08-09-2024 It was in the CLRC in which he was a late call up for, think he had 6 points from his first 3 rides. He was never the same rider in the playoffs after that. He was in a bit of a purple patch at the time, big score at Glasgow, top scored for the opposition in Richard Lawson’s testimonial and only dropped 1 point in two legs against Redcar in the KO cup. Got injured for Team GB against the USA at the start of the 2025 season and then it all went wrong at Kings Lynn and Glasgow as he looked shot of confidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Fan1980 said: Ian he was 16 with 1 years experience in the sport! What about the 15 point maximum at Redcar? 13 points Glasgow? It’s people like YOU that completely ruins our sport for the young guns. He’s beat Jason Doyle while Jason was leading the GP if I remember rightly!? Chris holder, bomber, majic , Lawson and plenty more!!! he was 16/17 with no previous experience in speedway but still people like you didn’t give him a proper chance other than pick on his bad days and kept quite on his good! I really hope he doesn’t return to speedway as I’ve followed him from a young age and the talent he has on two wheels is outstanding. Speedway is 50% bike set up and 50% rider ability and with his lack of experience I am sure his bike was set up incorrectly a lot of the time. He was one of the best mx riders in the world for his age where his talent on a bike was shown by his ability. He can now do the same with flattrack as it’s not the bike set up that wins races it’s the rider riding it. People like "me" completely ruining your sport 😂 stop being so melodramatic 😂. I'd say the lack of opportunities, this year more than ever thanks to the BSPL, for young Speedway riders is doing more than me to ruin "our" sport! I want nothing more than to hand over £25 at as many Speedway meetings as possible... apologies for that. I grant you I've been let down by my statistics taken from another website so apologies for that, my bad and not intentional. But the fact remains, his bad days far outweighed his good days and his bottle had gone, that's okay, it happens and if and when it does speeding into a bend on a Speedway track alongside 3 other riders on a 500cc machine with no brakes is not the place to be, no shame in that, you move on to something you are comfortable with, which he has done and good luck to him. Edited 8 hours ago by IainB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: I'm struggling to find the evidence @IainB but I'm sure Boughen had a purple patch in 2024 just before he had a nasty crash at the British U21 final at Redcar after which his scores returned to the norm. EDIT here's a 13+1 at Glasgow: https://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/22903/oxford-championship-08-09-2024 Yes, thanks for the correction, I've got my stats wrong, apologies, not intentional 👍🏻 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, IainB said: Yes, thanks for the correction, I've got my stats wrong, apologies, not intentional 👍🏻 It’s all that beer last night did it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Whitelinehugger said: It’s all that beer last night did it I blame Mr Jack Daniel 🥃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 5 hours ago, mikebv said: He is clearly a very talented motorcyclist ... Given the way he "backed off" when surrounded by other riders when riding Speedway, maybe having brakes on a bike gives him the confidence to keep riding "full on", knowing he can stop the bike whenever he needs to... Even towards the end of his Speedway time he could still get out of the start and win races comfortably, showing that on an open track he could ride full on and fast... Hopefully he can still return to the sport and overcome his obvious challenges, as he certainly is more than fast enough to be a decent level rider... Best not speedway is not how it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, IainB said: I blame Mr Jack Daniel 🥃 Damn bloke putting the mockers on the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Photo's from Roden here: https://www.baansportfansite.nl/nieuws/2824/ducati-steelt-show-in-roden-met-sensationele-winst-van-wk-debutant-boughen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusky Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago And of course, ex Swindon rider, Conny Ivarsson is representing Sweden in the flat track this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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