Colinspeedway Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Had Rushen been excluded, would heat 2 have had one rider only due to the other 2 being treated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 It's hard to see where Northampton go from here, while they had injuries, their 2 guests scored well & Thomsen was able to take 3 of Harrison's rides, so you could argue that made them stronger. I didn't think they were as weak as Birmingham & Oxford, but the last few matches will be a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Colinspeedway said: New track, he's still young and has a lot to learn so I dont want to be too harsh on Rushen. He has a lot of talent and potential but obviously this was something to learn from. Yes, but... I've never ridden a speedway bike but have seen enough to know that you don't left turn on riders down the straight, it's Speedway 101. It's an unwritten rule, maybe it needs to be written down... even then you can't rely on today's referees to enforce it 🤷♂️ That move and the resulting crash could easily have left Harrison with life changing injuries! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 2 hours ago, Fromafar said: What was the crowd level About half of last weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinspeedway Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 2 minutes ago, IainB said: Yes, but... I've never ridden a speedway bike but have seen enough to know that you don't left turn on riders down the straight, it's Speedway 101. It's an unwritten rule, maybe it needs to be written down... even then you can't rely on today's referees to enforce it 🤷♂️ That move and the resulting crash could easily have left Harrison with life changing injuries! He's still a kid. Do you think there should be age limits due to the dangerous nature of the sport? Got to learn somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinspeedway Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 14 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: It's hard to see where Northampton go from here, while they had injuries, their 2 guests scored well & Thomsen was able to take 3 of Harrison's rides, so you could argue that made them stronger. I didn't think they were as weak as Birmingham & Oxford, but the last few matches will be a concern. If Harrison was still riding Thomsen could have took rides for Batchelor, Kilndt and Lidsey who didn't look bothered and also could have been used in heat 15 so not sure it necessarily made them stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 7 minutes ago, Colinspeedway said: He's still a kid. Do you think there should be age limits due to the dangerous nature of the sport? Got to learn somewhere. There are age limits... he is a kid but he's be riding for a number of years now maybe not in such competitive races. Yes he does have to learn, but like I said it's Speedway 101 He should have been thrown out of the meeting... yet didn't even get excluded, bizarre! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 (edited) In Rugby Union there's an official sat off-field, whose job it is to report anything the other match officials could have missed. The alledly offending player then has to go up in front of "the beak" and either has the allegation dismissed, gets a slap on the wrist (short ban) or a kick up the pants (longer ban). Most of the bans can be reduced if the player agrees to go on a course. Edited May 8 by Hamish McRaker Keying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinspeedway Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 16 minutes ago, IainB said: There are age limits... he is a kid but he's be riding for a number of years now maybe not in such competitive races. Yes he does have to learn, but like I said it's Speedway 101 He should have been thrown out of the meeting... yet didn't even get excluded, bizarre! It was a dangerous move I agree but these things all happen very quickly. From what I've seen of him I don't think he is a dirty rider and luckily Harrison or Scott were not seriously injured so hopefully he will learn from it. The referees decision was shocking he's having a terrible season so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 15 minutes ago, Hamish McRaker said: Most of the bans can be reduced if the player agrees to go on a course. yes them courses haven't stopped me speeding 😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 2 minutes ago, Colinspeedway said: It was a dangerous move I agree but these things all happen very quickly. From what I've seen of him I don't think he is a dirty rider and luckily Harrison or Scott were not seriously injured so hopefully he will learn from it. The referees decision was shocking he's having a terrible season so far. If as has been suggested Rushen 'turned left' on the straight then the 2 other riders would have crashed on his inside rather than behind onthe outside, with one hitting the fence? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Colinspeedway said: He's still a kid. Do you think there should be age limits due to the dangerous nature of the sport? Got to learn somewhere. Nothing to do with age and you shouldn't need to learn by forcing other riders to fall. He chose to move left - it wasn't something outside of his control. Edited May 8 by SPEEDY69 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 41 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: If as has been suggested Rushen 'turned left' on the straight then the 2 other riders would have crashed on his inside rather than behind onthe outside, with one hitting the fence? Have you seen the crash, I'm pretty sure it was on YouTube earlier as I watched it... doesn't seem to be there now though 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinspeedway Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 40 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: Nothing to do with age and you shouldn't need to learn by forcing other riders to fall. He chose to move left - it wasn't something outside of his control. Yes with age should come better decision making. Im sure all of your choices as a 16 year old were spot on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 7 minutes ago, IainB said: Have you seen the crash, I'm pretty sure it was on YouTube earlier as I watched it... doesn't seem to be there now though 🤔 Saw it live last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieboyDon Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 30 minutes ago, IainB said: Have you seen the crash, I'm pretty sure it was on YouTube earlier as I watched it... doesn't seem to be there now though 🤔 Still on BSN's Instagram page. I'm a huge Cooper Rushen fan but even I think it was a little bit naughty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 4 hours ago, IainB said: A lot of people saying "once the track settles down"... with stock cars being run on it every week (are they running every week?) will it ever "settle down"? I think it might be more appropriate to say 'once they find out how best to prepare it' and then do that consistently 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenantony Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Once again it seems mainly people who weren't there moaning about start times etc - how about praising a new promotion for getting a new track up and running in such a short time? I arrived early enough but the car park was running out of space and the road from Northampton itself looked chock-a-block - I was coming up from London so missed that traffic but understood why they might have needed more time, every paying spectator counts after all. The team is going to struggle when they pick up the 'leftovers' but some riders need to think about their performances last night, being all too keen to pull up at the back, so hopefully replacements will become available. Kye Thomsen was sensational and really showed his team mates the way. Of course there is really no home track advantage at the moment, but it's no excuse for a lack of effort. The people involved, the stewards, on the gates, in the stand were friendly and keen, and the track produced some racing on the night. I enjoyed my first visit, boosted by a KL win, and I'd hope to go again this season. Finally, Cooper Rushen may have made an error, it just looked a horrible crash from where I sat, but please he is only 16 and as he said himself he is learning all the time. He is clearly a special talent, so instead of the usual Forum pile-on, how about cutting the young lad some slack and supporting a future GB superstar? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 45 minutes ago, IainB said: Have you seen the crash, I'm pretty sure it was on YouTube earlier as I watched it... doesn't seem to be there now though 🤔 In my view Cooper turned left but probably more that he meant to, realising this Luke tried to avoid him but could not. To castigate him and calling for a ban is way over the top, I am sure Rob Lyon has had a word with him and he will learn from his mistake. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 (edited) 4 hours ago, Colinspeedway said: Had Rushen been excluded, would heat 2 have had one rider only due to the other 2 being treated? Yes. Last night was one of the rare occasions where a rider and their team was deprived of at least one point because the rider could not compete in the rerun through no fault of their own. I think there's a case for the Regs to enable the third rider and their team to have a point awarded, e.g. last night Scott would be given third place behind Thomson and Rushen, meaning a 4-2 to the Foxes. In the extreme example of two riders missing, then they and their team(s) could be awarded 1.5 points each. Edited May 8 by Roger Jacobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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