Wee Eck Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, Phannan said: Poole, the Bayern Munich of the championship. Winners of everything in that league before the season even starts. Must be so exciting for their customers.. Silly season started early I see. Both Bayern’s and Poole’s supporters love them winning. That’s why they both attract relatively big crowds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 50 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: Silly season started early I see. Both Bayern’s and Poole’s supporters love them winning. That’s why they both attract relatively big crowds. Big fish small pond comes to mind. At least Bayern’s situation isn’t a choice unlike poole’s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Phannan said: Big fish small pond comes to mind. At least Bayern’s situation isn’t a choice unlike poole’s A bigger pond than the Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 9 hours ago, LisaColette said: They also said about Will might hurt his hand. I wouldn't have thought so. Why, did you want his autograph? As he lives in Poole or thereabouts i would have thought someone would give him a lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: A bigger pond than the Premiership. A pond of mediocrity. Top marks for coming top of it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, Phannan said: Poole, the Bayern Munich of the championship. Winners of everything in that league before the season even starts. Must be so exciting for their customers.. Poole will get as much national publicity, or financial prize, for winning tier two, as whichever team wins the top tier... The difference being they will have laid out a lot less.. Before the start of this season, their promoters did say crowds had dropped last year, so maybe there could be a bit of "winning fatigue" setting in and fans will pick and choose their meetings depending on the opposition... However. They did also say though that they were going to ramp up their local promotion, and marketing, plus target sponsor recruitment as they felt lots of opportunities existed... Poole fans have shown a winning team keeps them attending, with a losing team, impacting crowds.. No point in spending six figures more, and "maybe" being successful, when you can spend six figures less and, whilst never guaranteeing success, give yourself really good odds... 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 minutes ago, mikebv said: Poole will get as much national publicity, or financial prize, for winning tier two, as whichever team wins the top tier... The difference being they will have laid out a lot less.. Before the start of this season, their promoters did say crowds had dropped last year, so maybe there could be a bit of "winning fatigue" setting in and fans will pick and choose their meetings depending on the opposition... However. They did also say though that they were going to ramp up their local promotion, and marketing, plus target sponsor recruitment as they felt lots of opportunities existed... Poole fans have shown a winning team keeps them attending, with a losing team, impacting crowds.. No point in spending six figures more, and "maybe" being successful, when you can spend six figures less and, whilst never guaranteeing success, give yourself really good odds... Poole were never a losing team in the top decision. Far from it. A club that dictates to the sport it competes in , the terms and conditions, the when and where they will or won’t operate in , makes a mockery of it all in my opinion. Business ambition is obviously number 1. Sporting ambition doesn’t come into it. Like a promoted team in football refusing to be promoted because they’ll win more matches in the lower division so more fans will attend. Suppose I’m naive to want meaningful relevant competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 11 hours ago, ASpeedwayfan said: Level down the straight and then went across Zach, clipped him going into the corner and then hit him again, Anders certainly the cause of the stoppage What I don't agree with is why someone has to be excluded, if the incident happened on the first bend it would have been all four back. As it was the first lap, there could be a certain amount of leniency in the rules for this type of incident where no one is really at fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Phannan said: Poole were never a losing team in the top decision. Far from it. A club that dictates to the sport it competes in , the terms and conditions, the when and where they will or won’t operate in , makes a mockery of it all in my opinion. Business ambition is obviously number 1. Sporting ambition doesn’t come into it. Like a promoted team in football refusing to be promoted because they’ll win more matches in the lower division so more fans will attend. Suppose I’m naive to want meaningful relevant competition. Yes it is a business decision to ride in the lower tier where the club gets as much revenue as the top tier but the costs are less, this is partly why the top division only has 6 teams, it must be very difficult to afford top riders especially when you dont get big crowds every week.In football you have to invest massively if you intend to stay in the top division once promoted or you get relegated. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 49 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: A bigger pond than the Premiership. What’s the size of this pond as I need one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluekevin Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago .Just heading home after comfortable win at Oxford. Going to Redcar tomorrow to see friends up north and knowledgeable fans at meeting.Another breakfast in Mc donalds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Bluekevin said: .Just heading home after comfortable win at Oxford. Going to Redcar tomorrow to see friends up north and knowledgeable fans at meeting.Another breakfast in Mc donalds KFC is better choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago You can say what you like about Poole, despite having fans like Shovlar who still chats to that dirty paedo Shawn, they win trophys. There is no doubt they would still be competing at the top end at least if they were still in the top tier. They dropped a league and shred bucket loads on outgoings yet have still maintained the same crowds each week. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Whitelinehugger said: What’s the size of this pond as I need one Same size as that paddling pool in your garden 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Phannan said: Poole were never a losing team in the top decision. Far from it. A club that dictates to the sport it competes in , the terms and conditions, the when and where they will or won’t operate in , makes a mockery of it all in my opinion. Business ambition is obviously number 1. Sporting ambition doesn’t come into it. Like a promoted team in football refusing to be promoted because they’ll win more matches in the lower division so more fans will attend. Suppose I’m naive to want meaningful relevant competition. Unfortunately the way the sport is ran, they don't have what could ordinarily be described as "meaningful relevant competitions"... Hence it has the following and media coverage it gets... Poole, when in tier one, realised that around ten of the fourteen riders that rode for them and their opponents each meeting at home, also rode in tier two, but for less money... Meaning they were laying out considerably more for riders who roide in tier two, and on top of that, two or three "top earners" who didn't... (I seem to remember the promoters saying it was around £150k difference between the costs in total).. "Dropping down" (if that is actually a thing), meant they had the majority of the same riders, could still ride on traditionally, and clearly, the best night for their business, charge less for punters to get in, and save a six figure sum... An absolute no brainer... If Speedway was ran like most other team sports with aspirational growth, with ever increasing financial rewards the higher you got, then that would be a completely different scenario, and one that the Poole promoters would, I am sure, adapt to and be successful within... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASpeedwayfan Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Unfortunately the way the sport is ran, they don't have what could ordinarily be described as "meaningful relevant competitions"... Hence it has the following and media coverage it gets... Poole, when in tier one, realised that around ten of the fourteen riders that rode for them and their opponents each meeting at home, also rode in tier two, but for less money... Meaning they were laying out considerably more for riders who roide in tier two, and on top of that, two or three "top earners" who didn't... (I seem to remember the promoters saying it was around £150k difference between the costs in total).. "Dropping down" (if that is actually a thing), meant they had the majority of the same riders, could still ride on traditionally, and clearly, the best night for their business, charge less for punters to get in, and save a six figure sum... An absolute no brainer... If Speedway was ran like most other team sports with aspirational growth, with ever increasing financial rewards the higher you got, then that would be a completely different scenario, and one that the Poole promoters would, I am sure, adapt to and be successful within... My biggest worry when we dropped down was missing the big names like Holders and Doyle at the time they dropped. I didn’t like the fact that we dropped down, hugely against it. But from season 1 in the championship I’ve never looked back. Especially with the state of the premiership 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveArena Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago Pinny that geezer SCB who filmed people having a slash. Shovvy talks to him? I would be surprised if that was the case. If it is better watch out if you go to the gents at Wimborne Road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, ASpeedwayfan said: My biggest worry when we dropped down was missing the big names like Holders and Doyle at the time they dropped. I didn’t like the fact that we dropped down, hugely against it. But from season 1 in the championship I’ve never looked back. Especially with the state of the premiership Matt Ford said at P&P that Poole would never rule out Premiership racing in the future, BUT 2 things would need to be in place - 1) a decent TV contract, and 2) being allowed to race home meetings on Wednesdays. Also assuming a sensible points limit he would love to track a Pirates team containing both Holders and both Cook brothers😇 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said: Matt Ford said at P&P that Poole would never rule out Premiership racing in the future, BUT 2 things would need to be in place - 1) a decent TV contract, and 2) being allowed to race home meetings on Wednesdays. Also assuming a sensible points limit he would love to track a Pirates team containing both Holders and both Cook brothers😇 Guess we can rule it out ever happening on point one alone, unless Harry has an ace up his sleeve when did he start last Nov and so far we have had Linda Lusadi in a travel lodge room pulling team names out of what looked like a used McDonalds bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 7 hours ago, mikebv said: Poole will get as much national publicity, or financial prize, for winning tier two, as whichever team wins the top tier... The difference being they will have laid out a lot less.. Before the start of this season, their promoters did say crowds had dropped last year, so maybe there could be a bit of "winning fatigue" setting in and fans will pick and choose their meetings depending on the opposition... However. They did also say though that they were going to ramp up their local promotion, and marketing, plus target sponsor recruitment as they felt lots of opportunities existed... Poole fans have shown a winning team keeps them attending, with a losing team, impacting crowds.. No point in spending six figures more, and "maybe" being successful, when you can spend six figures less and, whilst never guaranteeing success, give yourself really good odds... I would think crowds would hold up or improve this year given they have two of the very best English youngsters at reserve both of who are banging in the points weekly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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