YeOldPitGate Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 4 hours ago, Robinh88 said: 1981 ... what a rift Some brilliant names in that list halcyon days for sure sadly missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 5 hours ago, Robinh88 said: 1981 ... what a rift I first went to Arlington in 1976, aged 10, went to a few meetings each season until 1981 and then I was hooked. Gordon Kennett, Kelly moran, what a top two and then next season we added Ron Preston and still didn't win anything!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 37 minutes ago, M.D said: I first went to Arlington in 1976, aged 10, went to a few meetings each season until 1981 and then I was hooked. Gordon Kennett, Kelly moran, what a top two and then next season we added Ron Preston and still didn't win anything!! Indeed so. Did the Eagles struggle on the road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Robinh88 said: Indeed so. Did the Eagles struggle on the road? Won one, drew one away. Lost one, drew two at home. 12th out of 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 4 hours ago, YeOldPitGate said: Some brilliant names in that list halcyon days for sure sadly missed. But sadly only two of the clubs listed now remain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 12 hours ago, orion said: The ultimate issue was Poland becoming top dog simple as that,, Hardly any guests are used now in the Top flight these days due to fixed race nights and but it has little effect of improving crowds . So going on about guests is a myth and always has been . 78 matches in the top flight last year, including PO matches.... 62 Guests used... A bit more than "hardly any" at not far off one a match on average I would say... Maybe the UK should do what Sweden do and all race on the one night (Thursday?), that would then sort it once and for all... They could do that now with an even number in the league.. The top two tiers used 196 in total... Tough for a team sport, in any day and age, to sell such a concept to any major sponsors, and TV companies, I would think, even more so in a world where the optics of what you do are viewed 24/7... Let's hope the likes of Richard Coleman can influence matters enough to eradicate all those "ah, but this is Speedway" nonsense rules, which really should say "ah, but this is UK Speedway... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Guests were introduced in the 60’s as fans were sick of seeing walkovers when injury hit teams took to the track and there was a lot of unrest about the system from the get go and that continues to this day. I’ve always said if more than two members are missing from one team or a total of four from both teams then the meeting should not go ahead. The problem there is rearranging in the age where riders jet her there and everywhere. The other solution would have been to use riders from the second division and even better, buddy up with a team from that division. You are then seeing riders you wouldn’t normally see and not using riders from your direct opposition. The problem now though is double up/down is rife so it can’t work. Another solution is a squad system but there isn’t enough money in the sport to have riders sat in the bench awaiting a call. Lastly, with so few fixtures we shouldn’t be having ANY clashes where our riders are known to be required elsewhere. For us in the UK, guests are here to stay but they must be the absolute last resort and not the go to solution so currently overused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, ouch said: Guests were introduced in the 60’s as fans were sick of seeing walkovers when injury hit teams took to the track and there was a lot of unrest about the system from the get go and that continues to this day. I’ve always said if more than two members are missing from one team or a total of four from both teams then the meeting should not go ahead. The problem there is rearranging in the age where riders jet her there and everywhere. The other solution would have been to use riders from the second division and even better, buddy up with a team from that division. You are then seeing riders you wouldn’t normally see and not using riders from your direct opposition. The problem now though is double up/down is rife so it can’t work. Another solution is a squad system but there isn’t enough money in the sport to have riders sat in the bench awaiting a call. Lastly, with so few fixtures we shouldn’t be having ANY clashes where our riders are known to be required elsewhere. For us in the UK, guests are here to stay but they must be the absolute last resort and not the go to solution so currently overused. Given the fact riders ride "elsewhere", and there are so few teams, it would be a perfect time to have squad systems.. Just knock the teams back to five riders each, use fhe Danish Lesgue model, and have, a minimum, two riders in your squad.. The rwo riders who have an income from riding elsewhere... Lose the RS, and the Numbers 3 and 2, and have five riders all over a four point average.. The riders at No3, and No2 level make up the squad so they can replace any riders missing.. With fixed nights, all will be available... Edit. Using this squad system would also add some pressure to the HL and SS riders in the team to perform, as there a possible replacements "on the bench".. HL's and SS's are virtually bomb proof nowadays regardless of their performances, so competition for places can only be a good thing.. Edited 1 hour ago by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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