Phannan Posted yesterday at 02:31 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:31 PM 8 hours ago, ShanoXtra said: One league won’t make it better. What you really need to bring in new fans is two leagues which promotion and relegation. The sport needs jeopardy and punishment for finishing last. Couldn’t agree more with you. I’ve banged on about this before but been told it’s not possible. Obviously too complicated this speedway business. To think they found a covid vaccine in a couple of months…. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted yesterday at 04:31 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:31 PM 16 hours ago, TB1 said: This league is pants, and the sooner it's back to basics and one league the better. All I will say is congratulations must go to Lynn on a 60 year wait for a first ever win at Sheffield. Against a truly terrible Sheffield side compared to 2025 but they can only beat what's put in front of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted yesterday at 04:35 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:35 PM 10 hours ago, ShanoXtra said: One league won’t make it better. What you really need to bring in new fans is two leagues which promotion and relegation. The sport needs jeopardy and punishment for finishing last. 8 and 8 somehow a semi decent top league and second division can be made up of the usual old hand double uppers Harris, Lawson, Masters etc and up and coming UK lads and sprinkling of overseas youngsters once home and away with second division tracks having 90% of riders uk based so they can run on a night to suit fans not riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted yesterday at 04:38 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:38 PM 7 hours ago, TTT said: Paul Hurry is becoming a joke. Threw away a BP in our Home meeting vs. Belle Vue by not picking Rider of the Night (Musielak) and has now followed that up by blaming Stewart Dickson for track work taking place during a Home defeat to Leicester. I don't think Paul has a clue tbh and a new Team Manager for 2027 should be on Mayfield's list of jobs to do. Give Schroeck a go. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted yesterday at 04:39 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:39 PM Just now, YeOldPitGate said: Give Schroeck a go. He’s not capable anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted yesterday at 05:16 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:16 PM 11 hours ago, ShanoXtra said: One league won’t make it better. What you really need to bring in new fans is two leagues which promotion and relegation. The sport needs jeopardy and punishment for finishing last. Punishment for what? Everybody gets punished because it's a crap product! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted yesterday at 06:34 PM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:34 PM 1 hour ago, YeOldPitGate said: 8 and 8 somehow a semi decent top league and second division can be made up of the usual old hand double uppers Harris, Lawson, Masters etc and up and coming UK lads and sprinkling of overseas youngsters once home and away with second division tracks having 90% of riders uk based so they can run on a night to suit fans not riders. 1 hour ago, YeOldPitGate said: 8 and 8 somehow a semi decent top league and second division can be made up of the usual old hand double uppers Harris, Lawson, Masters etc and up and coming UK lads and sprinkling of overseas youngsters once home and away with second division tracks having 90% of riders uk based so they can run on a night to suit fans not riders. This is my point though, next year Lawson, Harris, masters, even cooper and cairns and many more won’t be able to ride in both the prem and champ which will create an easier way to then have cup matches etc because you won’t have people in theory riding for both clubs potentially. You could have a British cup instead of just a league cup and incorporate all the British clubs in one cup. That would also force Poole and Glasgow and others to jump to the prem as they won’t have a good selection of riders in the champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted yesterday at 06:43 PM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:43 PM 1 hour ago, TB1 said: Punishment for what? Everybody gets punished because it's a crap product! How does everyone get punished for one team being relegated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, ShanoXtra said: How does everyone get punished for one team being relegated? I meant the whole league is a punishment as it's poor quality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago 10 minutes ago, TB1 said: I meant the whole league is a punishment as it's poor quality. Contrived nonsense... Simply set up to provide as many riders as is possible to earn a living. With well meaning, Speedway loving, happy to fund affordable losses, promoters, all colluding together that the sport has some relevance... Who wins?... Who cares? .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago Just now, mikebv said: Contrived nonsense... Simply set up to provide as many riders as is possible to earn a living. With well meaning, Speedway loving, happy to fund affordable losses, promoters, all colluding together that the sport has some relevance... Who wins?... Who cares? .. OK not poor quality just poor organisation but I'm sure you get my point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago 5 minutes ago, TB1 said: OK not poor quality just poor organisation but I'm sure you get my point. Actually 'contrived nonsense' is great terminology. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 23 hours ago, bellevueace said: Technical tracks eh It’s always baffled me the level of hubris attached to track prep. Rather than the “I know best” mentality why not reach out and discuss things with other track men? Whilst all tracks are different things are also very much the same and the sharing of information for the good of all should be the goal. Material make up and distribution, moisture, drainage, maintenance before during and after meetings are some of the things that the track men up and down the country need to discuss together on a regular basis and if they see results at other circuits don’t be afraid to quiz those involved to gain tips and tricks. From a governing point of view, no club should be allowed to purposely prep a gate’n’go track as there is too much of that as it is. Speedway racing - fuelled by excitement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 10 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, ouch said: It’s always baffled me the level of hubris attached to track prep. Rather than the “I know best” mentality why not reach out and discuss things with other track men? Whilst all tracks are different things are also very much the same and the sharing of information for the good of all should be the goal. Material make up and distribution, moisture, drainage, maintenance before during and after meetings are some of the things that the track men up and down the country need to discuss together on a regular basis and if they see results at other circuits don’t be afraid to quiz those involved to gain tips and tricks. From a governing point of view, no club should be allowed to purposely prep a gate’n’go track as there is too much of that as it is. Speedway racing - fuelled by excitement. I think I’m at the point with speedway now where I don’t care about home advantage. I think the best possible track prep for overtaking should be undertaken for each race. I would rather see multiple overtakes and great racing than gate and go and the home team wins. If you are a good enough team you should be able to win on whatever track if it’s prepared correctly and for racing. Edited 10 hours ago by ShanoXtra . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, ouch said: It’s always baffled me the level of hubris attached to track prep. Rather than the “I know best” mentality why not reach out and discuss things with other track men? Whilst all tracks are different things are also very much the same and the sharing of information for the good of all should be the goal. Material make up and distribution, moisture, drainage, maintenance before during and after meetings are some of the things that the track men up and down the country need to discuss together on a regular basis and if they see results at other circuits don’t be afraid to quiz those involved to gain tips and tricks. From a governing point of view, no club should be allowed to purposely prep a gate’n’go track as there is too much of that as it is. Speedway racing - fuelled by excitement. Never been much of a problem with Ipswich track prep for a long time … it’s just not a good size and shape for great racing This season the prep is awful we know Belle vues track is the best for racing stop banging that drum as for many years you had Kirky Lane which was horrific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 18 hours ago, Whitelinehugger said: He’s not capable anywhere What about yourself ? cigars all round for a home win ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago In the mid 80's and early 90's Lynn's track hosted brilliant racing even though mid 80's we had some truly horrible sides, but now it seems a lot of people think its dire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, YeOldPitGate said: What about yourself ? cigars all round for a home win ? Tom thumbs me favourite, same as Orson Welles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, YeOldPitGate said: In the mid 80's and early 90's Lynn's track hosted brilliant racing even though mid 80's we had some truly horrible sides, but now it seems a lot of people think its dire. Bring huggy back. He was the man for the job. Edited 2 hours ago by Whitelinehugger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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