Sheffield -V- Belle Vue POF Leg 1 Thursday 8th October

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, Tinker said:

Well done Belle Vue, fully deserved and great to see a big crowd. Sheffield just not the force they have been in the past and can't understand why Flint seems to get a lot of rave reviews. Seen him a few times this year and mostly seems to flatter to deceive? 

Flint is just a championship HeatLeader who is turning into a journeyman speedway rider.He will make a living out the sport though.Found his level in International speedway IMO.Wish him well though.

[Gavan]

Well done Belle Vue but I’m sure most people are glad to see the back of that season totally boring 

Title winners obvious from early on

2 under strength sides in Ipswich and Northampton 

Leicester weaker than last season 

Sheffield losing arguably the leagues top rider … and unfortunately in their case too late to get Doyle 

The 2025 season was so close and 4 teams that could have won it 

This season take out Doyle Emil Fricke and Holder from 3 of those teams and the other side kept all theirs was obvious where the league would go

Let’s hope 2027 is more competitive 

[Steve Irving]

10 minutes ago, Gavan said:

Well done Belle Vue but I’m sure most people are glad to see the back of that season totally boring 

Title winners obvious from early on

2 under strength sides in Ipswich and Northampton 

Leicester weaker than last season 

Sheffield losing arguably the leagues top rider … and unfortunately in their case too late to get Doyle 

The 2025 season was so close and 4 teams that could have won it 

This season take out Doyle Emil Fricke and Holder from 3 of those teams and the other side kept all theirs was obvious where the league would go

Let’s hope 2027 is more competitive 

Cast iron certainty that Ipswich will be a different animal next year, and I’m pretty confident Northampton will be very competitive too from what I’m hearing. My biggest bugbear this year was that it wasn’t an even playing field and for all intents and purposes you ended up with a 2 team league and there were zero surprises that those 2 contested the final.

No excuses for any team next year (unless Eastie come to the tapes late) so we SHOULD see something fairer, and much more competitive.

Pretty disastrous year and all a bit unsavoury but it was all about getting through it which has been achieved.

Upwards on onwards to ‘27.

[Chrisdonnelly]

Happy for belle vue winning on home shale in front of the fans. To be honest this has been a completely awful season for top flight speedway. It has really not got going. 6 teams is just not enough to run a league, especially when 4 of the teams are basically championship teams. With the team belle vue have had this year winning it doesnt feel like id hoped. Personally as a lifelong belle vue fan, ive completely lost interest in league racing. Big changes needed for next year to get the hunger back

[Aries]

16 minutes ago, Chrisdonnelly said:

Happy for belle vue winning on home shale in front of the fans. To be honest this has been a completely awful season for top flight speedway. It has really not got going. 6 teams is just not enough to run a league, especially when 4 of the teams are basically championship teams. With the team belle vue have had this year winning it doesnt feel like id hoped. Personally as a lifelong belle vue fan, ive completely lost interest in league racing. Big changes needed for next year to get the hunger back

AGM a little earlier this year so only a few weeks to wait and see what they come up with. All we can do is hope the likes of Richard Coleman can have his voice heard for change and they actually do something different. We know some form of change will happen because it’s being pretty much forced upon them by Poland so at least that’s a start, as is not having a winter of turmoil that we had last year with all participating clubs being fully prepared.

Ideally an eight team league would be preferable, but IMO that’s the maximum number that should be in a top league here currently because there just isn’t sufficient quality to fill any more teams at the moment without leaving one or two being uncompetitive and cannon fodder. Less of a problem if more top riders come over rather than just recycling the ones we already have here, and the jungle drums have a few riders new to the league (and returning) who will do just that so we’ll have to wait and see.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Aries

[Witches1998]

22 minutes ago, Aries said:

AGM a little earlier this year so only a few weeks to wait and see what they come up with. All we can do is hope the likes of Richard Coleman can have his voice heard for change and they actually do something different. We know some form of change will happen because it’s being pretty much forced upon them by Poland so at least that’s a start, as is not having a winter of turmoil that we had last year with all participating clubs being fully prepared.

Ideally an eight team league would be preferable, but IMO that’s the maximum number that should be in a top league here currently because there just isn’t sufficient quality to fill any more teams at the moment without leaving one or two being uncompetitive and cannon fodder. Less of a problem if more top riders come over rather than just recycling the ones we already have here, and the jungle drums have a few riders new to the league (and returning) who will do just that so we’ll have to wait and see.

 

Do we know the date of the AGM?

[gjcone44]

45 minutes ago, Chrisdonnelly said:

Happy for belle vue winning on home shale in front of the fans. To be honest this has been a completely awful season for top flight speedway. It has really not got going. 6 teams is just not enough to run a league, especially when 4 of the teams are basically championship teams. With the team belle vue have had this year winning it doesnt feel like id hoped. Personally as a lifelong belle vue fan, ive completely lost interest in league racing. Big changes needed for next year to get the hunger back

feel exactly the same i wont be turning up for a six team league., to be honest cant see much improvement next season, just cant afford all the top riders, A big reset, is needed. Which is what a few of us were saying last year, i do hope Coleman can come up with a answer , but it is going to be a struggle. was a good crowed last night, and half decent presentation, but that wont be the case for ordinary league, matches.

[Aries]

24 minutes ago, Witches1998 said:

Do we know the date of the AGM?

November 3rd. 

[Aries]

6 minutes ago, gjcone44 said:

feel exactly the same i wont be turning up for a six team league., to be honest cant see much improvement next season, just cant afford all the top riders, A big reset, is needed. Which is what a few of us were saying last year, i do hope Coleman can come up with a answer , but it is going to be a struggle. was a good crowed last night, and half decent presentation, but that wont be the case for ordinary league, matches.

He can come up with several, problem is he’s one voice in a sea of many and he’ll probably end up drowning in said sea.

[FishersGate]

Well thank god that's over. Congrats to belle Vue, finished top and won the play offs so well done to them. Didn't attend a meeting this year which is unusual for me but a much needed break and I don't have any regrets, but I have missed it. So hopefully there is some light at the end of the tunnel to get me back in. 

[topaz325]

Well done Belle vue , made the bbc News sports section on tv this morning 

[Racin Jason 72]

Congratulations to belle vue. Fully deserved win in front of a massive crowd at home.  Perfect

[mikebv]

7 minutes ago, gjcone44 said:

feel exactly the same i wont be turning up for a six team league., to be honest cant see much improvement next season, just cant afford all the top riders, A big reset, is needed. Which is what a few of us were saying last year, i do hope Coleman can come up with a answer , but it is going to be a struggle. was a good crowed last night, and half decent presentation, but that wont be the case for ordinary league, matches.

Me and my lad met up last night with eight others who also had only attended the PCMT and the GP's .

All had the very same reasons for our non attendance...

In no specific order ..

We mentioned the lack of atmosphere at the run of the mill meetings due to the half full stadium...

The lack of any threat to the Aces qualifying which renders the qualifiers easy to miss .

Monday nights not great for many to attend...

So few teams means zero variety...

Jason Doyle riding for Sheffield to help them qualify and Max Fricke sabotaging Kings Lynn's chances by riding in the qualifiers for Sheffield were also mentioned, as was the glaring fact that Nicolai Klindt has zero connection to BV, as one said to me, "try and sell that to a major TV company"...

(Well done Nicolai by the way, you Aces Legend!!😁)..

What was interesting as two of us discussed the UK Speedway issues four people, two couples, stood behind us said they had been listening and said they thought the same!!! They too were at their first meeting of the season..

You would think some surveys would be carried out via club Facebook pages wouldn't you to get some feedback as the why and why not followers attend?..

It was clear well over a thousand others were not regulars looking at the crowd size, with Sheffield having hardly anyone, (as is usual), there..

As for the night itself, all agreed the presentation was hugely better than we have previously seen, (is that a one off or is that the usual?), the PA system worked well where we were, the food and drink areas were quick and efficient, plenty of toilet facilities and the presentation kept momentum going in between races...

It certainly looked like a lot of planning had gone into the night to ensure a good impression for those who were non regulars, hopefully it can pay off early next season..

For a Friday I thought there would have been more kids watching, so maybe a "family area" would help? Ensuring they all can watch together? One "pen" would do it. Maybe at a Special Offer rate for the Adult, (kids are free on the South Side) with someone doing giveaways, face painting etc. .

In short, if they could deliver nights like this as "the norm" then UK Speedway would be wondering why they "only get 3,000", rather than it being a "bumper crowd" nowadays...

Well done to the Aces, the engine room, once again, delivered, and Luke Killeen certainly showed some real potential to go forward in his career...

Let's hope that far too long overdue reset is delivered this winter...

The product can attract decent crowds, the infrastructure around it, not so...

[gjcone44]

exactly i was stood in south stand quit a few new people i have never seen before, and some were cheering louder than i was,.😁, the one problem i can see is even if they get more top riders over here, will they put as much effort as ben cook does.🤣

Edited 1 hour ago by gjcone44

[Daniel Smith]

Anyone seen the BBC report today 🤣🤣🤣

Could they get it more wrong, the only thing they got right was Belle Vue won 🤣🤣🤣

[Roger Jacobs]

At last! The end of a short, drawn out season.

Best bit has to be Nikolai Klindt collecting a winners medal and the wooden spoon.

 

[YeOldPitGate]

2 hours ago, Aries said:

AGM a little earlier this year so only a few weeks to wait and see what they come up with. All we can do is hope the likes of Richard Coleman can have his voice heard for change and they actually do something different. We know some form of change will happen because it’s being pretty much forced upon them by Poland so at least that’s a start, as is not having a winter of turmoil that we had last year with all participating clubs being fully prepared.

Ideally an eight team league would be preferable, but IMO that’s the maximum number that should be in a top league here currently because there just isn’t sufficient quality to fill any more teams at the moment without leaving one or two being uncompetitive and cannon fodder. Less of a problem if more top riders come over rather than just recycling the ones we already have here, and the jungle drums have a few riders new to the league (and returning) who will do just that so we’ll have to wait and see.

 

Lets hope Richard doesn't get disheartened, he seems to have the right vision and I really feel he is the last roll of the dice for the sport.

[YeOldPitGate]

3 hours ago, Steve Irving said:

Cast iron certainty that Ipswich will be a different animal next year, and I’m pretty confident Northampton will be very competitive too from what I’m hearing. My biggest bugbear this year was that it wasn’t an even playing field and for all intents and purposes you ended up with a 2 team league and there were zero surprises that those 2 contested the final.

No excuses for any team next year (unless Eastie come to the tapes late) so we SHOULD see something fairer, and much more competitive.

Pretty disastrous year and all a bit unsavoury but it was all about getting through it which has been achieved.

Upwards on onwards to ‘27.

Someone with deep pockets coming into Northampton ?

[gjcone44]

12 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said:

Someone with deep pockets coming into Northampton ?

problem is how deep are the customers pockets going to be next season..