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  1. 5 points
    @Phil The Ace put on Facebook : "Getting alot of stick for my behaviour towards starman over on BSF apparently. And rightly so. I apologise to him and anyone else I offended. If anyone's on there fan they please put on my apology. As I have been banned from there"
  2. 4 points
    You may have noticed this is a thread about Wolverhampton Speedway, so the topics discussed are relevant to Wolverhampton Speedway. If you had bothered to read what I posted I said it's a shame British Speedway has sunk to the levels it has... i.e. it cannot afford Lindgren/Woffinden anymore. For 20 years plus the league has been consistently weakened and fans have been consistently lost as a result of it every single time. Weaken the product, leave the price the same. Fans leave. Weaken the product, put the price up!.. Fans leave. Oh, we lost money last year.. I know.. let's weaken the product again and stick £1 on the admission... oh no, more fans leave. It has been a practice doomed to failure and predicted on here for well over ten years now. We're now at a stage where the damage done to the sport at the top level is so great we're beyond being able to bring back the top names for most, if not all clubs. A complete revamp is necessary, possibly a larger league with vastly reduced admission prices is very likely the only shot at saving league racing in the UK. Whether that will work is open to conjecture.. but something radical HAS to be done.
  3. 4 points
    I have no issue with anyone expressing their opinion. What I do have an issue with is the constant negativity and apparent complaining from some fans, irrespective of what the club does in terms of trying to improve things on or off the track. Every change in the line up or effort to promote the club is met, from some quarters, with a barrage of negative tweets, posts, etc - seemingly without consideration. The Broc Nicol signing is a perfect case. He’d not turned a wheel for the club and yet some fans were already writing him off and were criticising the club for making the change (a change that the some of the same fans were no doubt asking for). And yet he has shown in a very short time that he has tremendous potential - his 11 point performance at Scunthorpe last week for example was a joy to watch. The beauty of social media is that everyone now has the ability to have their voice heard way beyond what it could have been previously. Personally I think it’s great and I have debated many topics with people I wouldn’t have otherwise been able to do via social media. I have even met and become friends with people through it. It really is a wonderful tool. But the ability to voice your opinion to more people than before, and more significantly to those who you are directing your opinion at, comes - in my opinion - with a degree of responsibility. An angry tweet or post sent to someone - promoter, rider, etc - might be someone’s way of getting something off their chest. But they need - in my opinion - to understand how that tweet, post, etc will be received by the person it’s been sent to. Last week’s programme notes by Peter Mole demonstrated to me the level of frustration he and the rest of the promotion are feeling right now. And this has apparently been created by social media posts from fans. Again, I’m not saying people shouldn’t voice their opinion, BUT if they’re going to do so why not try to be constructive in their criticism or better still give the changes a few weeks to take effect before criticising the club? Put yourself in their shoes - you’re doing everything you can to put a competitive, entertaining but financially sustainable team on the track following a Championship winning season but some people seemingly find fault with everything you do. Ask yourself how you’d feel? I know I could and would only take this for so long before saying enough is enough Now unless that is ultimately the aim of these fans I would implore them to check the negativity, to consider for a moment how their criticism will be received and try to be constructive as opposed to out and out critical. And this doesn’t mean being a happy clapper, far from it. We all know that British speedway is in a difficult position right now, but I just think we need to support whoever is in charge of our club. The speedway world is far from perfect. But then life is far from perfect.
  4. 4 points
    This football thing is becoming really tough......... originally 31 teams to support, then 15, and now just 7 !!
  5. 3 points
    Gained the support of local MPs and the local councils. Obtained backing from Sport England. Represented the campaign at the House of Commons. 1800 signature petition to support the retention of speedway and stock car at Brandon. Arranged pledges to repair Brandon . highlighted the campaign at Cov Motofest. In continual dialogue with Rugby Bc planning to disprove BE arguments strengthened the case to exclude Brandon from the local building plan.
  6. 3 points
    Sod the big picture - riders welfare comes first.
  7. 3 points
    Depends if you will be in an aeroplane or not.....
  8. 3 points
  9. 2 points
    Plants? I'd have found a different word for them. (Unless you mean cactus plants, judging by these pricks)
  10. 2 points
    I’ve never been that bothered about the price or the standard of riders, but I did lose interest when there was no home meeting for three weeks and the next one was against a weak team with two guests and R/R. First you get used to not going every week, then you start picking and choosing the meetings you go to, and then even for the good matches you think “can I even be bothered with those now”. Eventually you make do with Updates and the TV coverage. I think that has happened for Grachan too.
  11. 2 points
    Almost 11.30 on the day of a Glasgow v Lakeside clash and no thread on this forum for the meeting. Sadly speaks volumes. In previous years there would have been several pages by now. In my opinion, this year in particular has put a few more nails in the coffin of speedway, mainly due to reduced and inconsistent fixtures. Bad enough for us long term fans but how must it be for newbies? Missing riders is another main factor causing lack of interest. Riders doubling up and being committed to riding abroad and in other competitions is doing speedway no good whatsoever. I do understand the shortage of riders but that is due to the sport becoming "professional" and far too expensive for Joe Bloggs to take part in. I have always kind of poo pooed the people constantly saying our sport is in decline but I can see and feel a big slide this year. It must be totally disheartening for promotions such as Glasgow who have put so much into improving facilities and attracting new supporters.
  12. 2 points
    For years SL I thought the same, never criticised Buster or anything King's Lynn. Like some of the other Stars supporters on here, I would shoot people down for negativity. For me I feel in the last 2-3 years supporters seem to have become a burden to him. Years ago us fan where so important to him, immediately on the mic to explain what's going on etc. Going by what's been said with regards Wednesday it seems he didn't want to address anything. In the past when he got heckled on the mic he'd answer back. To just hand the mic back and walk off isn't the Buster you and I remember. The way he handled situations last season was nothing short of appalling. People obviously say you should move on, go or don't go, but when the club you so used to love starts to fall apart why should I just disappear. I want King's Lynn as a club to be great again, an atmospheric place to be for everybody. The Premiership Buster is a totally different monster than the Premier League Buster.
  13. 2 points
    Speedway's problem is that it has rules that encourage cheating, and the cheats often win. I don't know if getting rid of the points limit would be a better way of handling team building and revert to some kind of rider control, although that wasn't universally popular with those impacted. Bruce Penhall in 1982 (Overseas Final) was the first I recall someone actually not trying to win a race (he made it quite obvious). That was six years into my supporting speedway. Then came the Sunday People revelations of race-fixing. But neither put me off speedway. But the sport seems to open itself up for abuse from the rule-benders. Even the old tac-sub, which I adored, I've heard stories of riders finishing a certain position so that his side could use a tac in the next heat. Is that cheating - or just taking one for the team? Perhaps get away with all form of tactical substitutes and just allow the programmed heats. In football, when a bottom table side beats one of the top teams, Crystal Palace vs. Man City, you don't think City lost on purpose because they want to bring in a new signing next month or they went a goal behind in the first place because they intended to play the nominated goal rule which allowed it to count double. A win for Palace wouldn't have made me, a cynic, question it. A win for a bottom of the table speedway team again a top one... I think, "what's going on here." Maybe I'm just a died in the wool pessimist. As a 15-year-old, in 1978, when the world was pure, as a relatively new speedway fan, I recall seasoned cellar-position side Leicester (who were not even good at home) actually winning at King's Lynn (with Michael Lee, Terry Betts...), quite good at home. When I got home from school, picked up one of the newspapers and saw this result, I was shocked. I didn't think "what's going on here." It was an honest result. When I see a good side lose to a weaker one now, I think "what's going on here." Perhaps seeing too many suspicious things along my time watching the sport has made me like this. Seeing Crump vs. Pedersen in one of the slowest heats on World Cup record, both trying NOT to beat the other so that their country could utilise the Joker... that can't be washed from your mind. Speedway allows rules that allow these things to happen. And it wonders why we are where we are, and thinks new fans will stay as patient as I did.
  14. 2 points
    Not quite true and Wednesday is a good example why. Back in the 70s and 80s, meetings were rushed through to heat six, because at that point, there was NO refund. On Wednesday, there were six races, and yet there should still be discounted admission for those with re-admission tickets. A supporter on Wednesday is better off under the new system than the old system.
  15. 2 points
  16. 2 points
    Back in the 1950's there were a lot of former speedway stadiums sitting idle, ready to go. These days those options are virtually non existent.
  17. 2 points
    The trouble at Poole at the moment every rider is inconsistent so I think it is difficult who you change ?
  18. 2 points
    That is how I feel too. It's a dive in nosebag of cash ( instead of oats ) for riders of whom there will soon be more than fans. There are about 50 fans for each rider in a match. At some clubs less than that. Do the maths of the finances. Doesn't add up at all. All of us hope that the slide can be halted, but hope will not carry us any nearer that happening. There will be a few "black" tracks operating outside of anything like the BSPA within 5 years - running Open meetings. Only someone with vision ( perhaps J Chapman ) and matched with someone with serious money could pull together the best remnants of what we have at the moment. Nothing else will do it.
  19. 2 points
    I stand corrected. obviously he was not up to date with all the many rule changes. You say the new system is fairer, you'll have to forgive me for not agreeing with you . Under the new system the supporter never gains and loses out everytime a meeting is called off. Years ago the supporters were appreciated and treated as a valued commodity, not anymore. You don't have to think very hard to see why the numbers are dwindling fast.. Of those many fans who had been waiting for hours before leaving , I cant imagine they'll be too keen to come again when they learn they will only receive a small adjustment from their initial £18.00 they forked out... NB : Pleased to see Rob Godfrey made the correct decision and refunded the full amount for a meeting called off after 2 races. As a supporter I wouldn't have expected anything less...
  20. 2 points
    Fair play. Now we can all move on. Water under the bridge now.
  21. 2 points
    The 1980's may have gone but I feel blessed and thankful I watched my speedway in the 80's 90's and up to 2010. This year after 30 years of going every week I'm done with league speedway in Britain for good. Don't forget to email the BSPA with all your ideas of how to attract todays modern youth so the sport can flourish again to a level it was in the 80's
  22. 2 points
    Can always tell when your team wins - your posts have a special tone!
  23. 2 points
    Absolutely, the views of those that do not attend are far more important to the future of the sport than those that see no wrong. The ever decreasing spectators is a massive massive problem yet the voices are not heard and constantly shot down, it's like tracks are getting gates of 5000+ how promoters and some fans behave.
  24. 2 points
    He is a disillusioned former Supporter, who is as entitled to his views and to air them, as you or I. At the end of the day - that is what the Forum is for HT. There are a lot less People Posting on here these days - I wonder why?
  25. 2 points
    Can we please have a rule that says the rules can only be changed at the AGM? Or would that be too difficult for the BSPA to understand?
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