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Bradford and Halifax Dukes speedway team.

 

Stock car racing.

 

Bradford Park Avenue Football club.

 

All 3 above sports could be reintroduced to Odsal! - Would be nice!

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Sad to see . It will probably end up like Oxford & Coventry and fall into disrepair 

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THIS ! represents a perfect opportunity for Speedway Ltd to make a statement. As we know the recent efforts of the "Yorkshire Dukes" enthusiasts to re-introduce Speedway to the area and Odsal specifically floundered. Not for reasons that agreement could not be reached with the Owner -Bradford Council or the Leaseholders - the RFL or the tenants - Bradford Bulls - or the means of the Yorkshire Dukes group. It floundered simply because  a viable way of maintaining the Rugby pitch to statutory size whilst running the Speedway track around the perimeter could not be arrived at. In part on a cost effective solution to managing the corners. 

That was the issue that stalled the Yorkshire Dukes project. 

So now with the Rugby team departing and Odsal vacant this is a unique opportunity for Speedway to show some faith in itself and collectively understand the importance of returning the sport to one of its most iconic and traditional venues. 

Time after time after time after time Speedway has surrendered it territory to planners, developers, and environmental lobbiests. So much of Speedway's "infracstructure" has been taken from it relegating it in the public consciousness as nothing more than a "spareland past time" 

The National Stadium at Belle Vue is a fantastic dedicated venue for Speedway. But if we could show some faith and reclaim Odsal Bradford and Coventry over the coming months - that will represent a significant "fight back" against constant "negativity" surrounding the sport and its future direction. 

Is it beyond the wit of Speedway GP and British Speedway to sieze upon this great opportunity and to work together to recover both Odsal and Brandon as "National Speedway" venues within "City limits" in the North and Midlands to stage "calendered events". The SGP, The World Cup, shared BSPA events ?. Then work with local groups such as the Yorkshire Dukes and Coventry Bees to establish regular domestic Speedway and Speedway/Motorcycle training centres. 

How effectively can the SGP show install itself into stadia around the World ? Very effectively. Odsal Stadium is not in the best of shape, but its a long way from being unihabitable v the sparten facilites offered at most tracks around Britain. The World Class Odsal Speedway circuit is still there! albert the shale and perimeter fence has long since disappeared. There is substantial covered seating, and the large hospitality suite overlooks the track and infield. Yes there is some work needed on the Rooley Lane end terrace but that is cosmetic and could be reasonably made good. But it is all there IF IF ! Speedway shows a bit of vision and belief in itself. 

To me what a brilliant opportunity this is and I would urge Speedway and Motorsport people generally - including Stock Cars, Flat track, MX to grasp this contact Bradford Local Authority and work together to secure the future of the likes Odsal Bradford, Brandon Coventry and Cowley Oxford for the future Speedway generation.

If in future I hear those in power bemoaning Speedways in a poor state and not one single one of them explored the opportunity Odsal Bradford presents. Then sorry; which one of us is going to listen or even be bothered about it ?.

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47 minutes ago, Grachan said:

Worth pointing out that the rugby team have moved out due to the high financial cost of playing at Odsal.

Would Speedway be financially viable?

No it wouldn't, this has been discussed repeatedly in the local press recently and the stadium is to be sold, if anyone has a few million quid spare it might be worth approaching the council, otherwise forget it.

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7 hours ago, 25yearfan said:

Bradford and Halifax Dukes speedway team.

 

Stock car racing.

 

Bradford Park Avenue Football club.

 

All 3 above sports could be reintroduced to Odsal! - Would be nice!

Park Avenue now have a ground and offered to share with the Bulls but the Bulls are intending to build their own much smaller stadium during their two year stay at Dewsbury, there are no plans for speedway in that.

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8 hours ago, the outsider said:

THIS ! represents a perfect opportunity for Speedway Ltd to make a statement. As we know the recent efforts of the "Yorkshire Dukes" enthusiasts to re-introduce Speedway to the area and Odsal specifically floundered. Not for reasons that agreement could not be reached with the Owner -Bradford Council or the Leaseholders - the RFL or the tenants - Bradford Bulls - or the means of the Yorkshire Dukes group. It floundered simply because  a viable way of maintaining the Rugby pitch to statutory size whilst running the Speedway track around the perimeter could not be arrived at. In part on a cost effective solution to managing the corners. 

That was the issue that stalled the Yorkshire Dukes project. 

So now with the Rugby team departing and Odsal vacant this is a unique opportunity for Speedway to show some faith in itself and collectively understand the importance of returning the sport to one of its most iconic and traditional venues. 

Time after time after time after time Speedway has surrendered it territory to planners, developers, and environmental lobbiests. So much of Speedway's "infracstructure" has been taken from it relegating it in the public consciousness as nothing more than a "spareland past time" 

The National Stadium at Belle Vue is a fantastic dedicated venue for Speedway. But if we could show some faith and reclaim Odsal Bradford and Coventry over the coming months - that will represent a significant "fight back" against constant "negativity" surrounding the sport and its future direction. 

Is it beyond the wit of Speedway GP and British Speedway to sieze upon this great opportunity and to work together to recover both Odsal and Brandon as "National Speedway" venues within "City limits" in the North and Midlands to stage "calendered events". The SGP, The World Cup, shared BSPA events ?. Then work with local groups such as the Yorkshire Dukes and Coventry Bees to establish regular domestic Speedway and Speedway/Motorcycle training centres. 

How effectively can the SGP show install itself into stadia around the World ? Very effectively. Odsal Stadium is not in the best of shape, but its a long way from being unihabitable v the sparten facilites offered at most tracks around Britain. The World Class Odsal Speedway circuit is still there! albert the shale and perimeter fence has long since disappeared. There is substantial covered seating, and the large hospitality suite overlooks the track and infield. Yes there is some work needed on the Rooley Lane end terrace but that is cosmetic and could be reasonably made good. But it is all there IF IF ! Speedway shows a bit of vision and belief in itself. 

To me what a brilliant opportunity this is and I would urge Speedway and Motorsport people generally - including Stock Cars, Flat track, MX to grasp this contact Bradford Local Authority and work together to secure the future of the likes Odsal Bradford, Brandon Coventry and Cowley Oxford for the future Speedway generation.

If in future I hear those in power bemoaning Speedways in a poor state and not one single one of them explored the opportunity Odsal Bradford presents. Then sorry; which one of us is going to listen or even be bothered about it ?.

Great sentiments and 10 years ago maybe, but the Rugby have moved out because they can't afford it so there's no way Speedway will be able to afford it. I think the ideal use for Odsal will probably be landfill... it's the right shape

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54 minutes ago, iainb said:

Great sentiments and 10 years ago maybe, but the Rugby have moved out because they can't afford it so there's no way Speedway will be able to afford it. I think the ideal use for Odsal will probably be landfill... it's the right shape

And there is huge money in that ... I know of a golf club being paid over £1 million to have part of their land used for landfill which will then be converted, at cost to the contractors, into a new driving range .

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With the NSS a mere 40 miles away, i fear that Odsal's horse has long since bolted.

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Consigned to history it would be a waste of money.

Speedway needs to focus on their existing stadia and seek to improve where possible.

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Didn't a League winning team fail to attract a decent crowd so it closed down?

500 to 1000 people rattling around in a bowl that big would generate no atmosphere at all I am afraid, (even if they only used the Grandstand), as that holds about 5000 doesn't it?..

As has been said. Someone with a few million to burn is needed..

No consortium looking to invest to make money would go anywhere near it unfortunately...

British Speedway missed a chance with the old Hyde Rd track to buy it and make the required improvements and use it as a National Stadium and did the same with Brandon. Maybe seeing the costs (even shared amongst themselves) to bring them up to scratch too prohibitive?..

The Sport in Britain has fell unbelievably lucky thanks to Dave Gordon and Chris Morton to have such a World Class track and facility at the NSS..

To bring Odsal up to standard just to race would cost plenty..

And much, much more than any returns I would think..

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27 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Didn't a League winning team fail to attract a decent crowd so it closed down?

500 to 1000 people rattling around in a bowl that big would generate no atmosphere at all I am afraid, (even if they only used the Grandstand), as that holds about 5000 doesn't it?..

As has been said. Someone with a few million to burn is needed..

No consortium looking to invest to make money would go anywhere near it unfortunately...

British Speedway missed a chance with the old Hyde Rd track to buy it and make the required improvements and use it as a National Stadium and did the same with Brandon. Maybe seeing the costs (even shared amongst themselves) to bring them up to scratch too prohibitive?..

The Sport in Britain has fell unbelievably lucky thanks to Dave Gordon and Chris Morton to have such a World Class track and facility at the NSS..

To bring Odsal up to standard just to race would cost plenty..

And much, much more than any returns I would think..

The (claimed) main reason was stadium development but yes the place was deserted during the last season and it was embarrassing to see riders on parade, waiving to empty terraces.

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7 hours ago, foamfence said:

Park Avenue now have a ground and offered to share with the Bulls but the Bulls are intending to build their own much smaller stadium during their two year stay at Dewsbury, there are no plans for speedway in that.

Why should Bulls be involved with speedway?

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3 minutes ago, gustix said:

Why should Bulls be involved with speedway?

They wouldn't, they made that clear to Tony Mole a few years back.

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