tellboy 3,662 Posted October 12, 2020 Have the Worrall's,Wright,Cook etc been asked and declined,we don't know.Maybe they are all in jobs now?Think you have to self quarantine on your return from Poland now so don't want to quarantine themselves. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
customhouseregular 1,651 Posted October 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Ben91 said: That would be an Arris... What does that make Anita ‘Arris?. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,361 Posted October 12, 2020 5 hours ago, HGould said: Think the point you are missing is that GB have a "Squad". A senior Squad and an Academy Squad. Adam Ellis and Charles Wright are in the senior Squad (with Tai / Lambert / Bewley (who is in both) but Worralls, Bomber and Lawson aren't. The Academy Squad includes likes of Kemp, Brennan, Palin, Gilkes;Flint;Edwards, Rowe; Bickley etc . So to bring in Bomber / Worralls / Lawson would have been same as Southgate calling a footballer in to his 22 man Squad and straight in to team. Kemp and Palin have been given U21 slots and Lambert, Bewley have main slots after Tai's injury What about Cook is he in it or not.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,258 Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 9:20 PM, chunky said: It could have happened in the old World Finals, yet nobody complained about that... Do you mean individual world finals? How many times was it won with 10 points? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OveFundinFan 4,141 Posted October 12, 2020 43 minutes ago, Fromafar said: What about Cook is he in it or not.? Has he ridden this year? If not, that’s a good reason why he is not included. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andout 651 Posted October 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: Do you mean individual world finals? How many times was it won with 10 points? None because its not possible.....Sam Ermolenko won outright with a score of 12..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,361 Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: Has he ridden this year? If not, that’s a good reason why he is not included. I’m talking about in the squad not whether he is picked,Wright is in the squad but not racing this year.I was wondering if Cook is in the squad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,091 Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said: Do you mean individual world finals? How many times was it won with 10 points? People have been pointing out that one of the flaws of the GP system, and now the SON, is that a rider(s) COULD win a World Championship without ever winning a race. It was also possible to do that with the old World Final system. Just because something didn't happen doesn't mean that it wasn't possible. Edited October 12, 2020 by chunky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,091 Posted October 12, 2020 49 minutes ago, andout said: None because its not possible.....Sam Ermolenko won outright with a score of 12..... It was still possible to win a World Championship without ever winning a race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,014 Posted October 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, chunky said: It was still possible to win a World Championship without ever winning a race. It was possible to win by just winning 1 race and not scoring another point... if everybody else got excluded in all of their other races, unlikely though unless the ref was Frank Ebdon! Lot's of things are possible though not always likely. I think all the fans and riders want is the fairest scoring system Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wee Eck 703 Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: I’m talking about in the squad not whether he is picked,Wright is in the squad but not racing this year.I was wondering if Cook is in the squad. Wasn’t Cook invited to be part of the squad training before what should have been the start of the season - in Southampton with the Marines or something like that - but declined to attend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,091 Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, iainb said: It was possible to win by just winning 1 race and not scoring another point... if everybody else got excluded in all of their other races, unlikely though unless the ref was Frank Ebdon! Lot's of things are possible though not always likely. I think all the fans and riders want is the fairest scoring system Exactly. Trouble is, because things "didn't happen", people never gave it a thought that they "could have happened". A team winning the SON without "winning" a race (even though they score the most points - which is the objective) is unlikely, but yes, it COULD happen. However, a rider becoming World Champion without winning a race is NEVER going to happen, even though it is possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midland Red 2,383 Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 7:10 PM, PHILIPRISING said: NOTHING to gain by having Harris there. Look to the future. England have some excellent prospects coming through the ranks. Invest in them and, hopefully, reap the benefit later. But it’s not a practice match! Pick a team for now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,298 Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, chunky said: Exactly. Trouble is, because things "didn't happen", people never gave it a thought that they "could have happened". A team winning the SON without "winning" a race (even though they score the most points - which is the objective) is unlikely, but yes, it COULD happen. However, a rider becoming World Champion without winning a race is NEVER going to happen, even though it is possible. Let's not worry about low probability occurances. Let's consider something that has already taken place not so many years ago. The rules say that SON champions are the team that "win" the final race on day 2. Let's, for the moment, disregard how the two teams got there, but the GB no.1 wins that race beating those pesky ruskies into 2nd and 3rd. Then, to the surprise of our companion, who is unfamiliar with the workings of world speedway, the Russian Team are declared the SON Champions. Stop me when you get a sense of déjà vu. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,091 Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, False dawn said: Let's not worry about low probability occurances. Let's consider something that has already taken place not so many years ago. The rules say that SON champions are the team that "win" the final race on day 2. Let's, for the moment, disregard how the two teams got there, but the GB no.1 wins that race beating those pesky ruskies into 2nd and 3rd. Then, to the surprise of our companion, who is unfamiliar with the workings of world speedway, the Russian Team are declared the SON Champions. Stop me when you get a sense of déjà vu. I don't worry about low probability occurrences. I just get annoyed when people claim something is flawed because "that" may happen. That's why I cone on and point out that it was always the case. They just dismiss it because it never did... Thing is, whether you like rules or not, they are are there, and everybody (at least the important ones - the riders) knows them. Look at the stink after the first GP this year! We all knew the rules, and we all knew the possibilities. Why then, does it cause such a problem when something happens? That's the way it is, so they'd better get used to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites