GWC 495 Posted July 17, 2022 ‘’Cannot believe Poland doesnt follow the UK operating model to be honest given it works so well, definitely missing a trick the Poles aren't they? ‘’ They don’t need to Mike as Poland has one advantage over all other Speedway nations - fanatical support! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 1,268 Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, GWC said: ....... They don’t need to Mike as Poland has one advantage over all other Speedway nations - fanatical support! Because they have a team to support that is theirs and they can identify with it. We have 'licorice allsort' teams of double uppers, guests, rider reps etc that have NO team identity whatsoever. Sad times. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topsoil 2,498 Posted July 17, 2022 2 hours ago, GWC said: ‘’Cannot believe Poland doesnt follow the UK operating model to be honest given it works so well, definitely missing a trick the Poles aren't they? ‘’ They don’t need to Mike as Poland has one advantage over all other Speedway nations - fanatical support! That 'fanatical support' seems to be on the wane when you see from their website that ekstraliga crowds this season are 20% down from those in 2018 and 2019. Also 'the operating model' contains Lucky Losers in the playoffs. You can finish sixth, get knocked out the playoffs and still end up league champions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GWC 495 Posted July 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, topsoil said: That 'fanatical support' seems to be on the wane when you see from their website that ekstraliga crowds this season are 20% down from those in 2018 and 2019. Also 'the operating model' contains Lucky Losers in the playoffs. You can finish sixth, get knocked out the playoffs and still end up league champions. I recall back in the communist days the huge crowds in Poland of any pictures we got of racing over there. Times change and like us they probably have more things to do now, especially the young. My take on speedway and it’s survival is for it to look at the tracks that can retain support - a classic example would have been Cradley who would support their team whoever was riding. Sadly gone now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,276 Posted July 17, 2022 9 hours ago, GWC said: ‘’Cannot believe Poland doesnt follow the UK operating model to be honest given it works so well, definitely missing a trick the Poles aren't they? ‘’ They don’t need to Mike as Poland has one advantage over all other Speedway nations - fanatical support! They know only too well that the second Bartek dons a set of Wroclaw kevlars to stand in for a missing Majic then the sport is truly "Donald Ducked" ... Passionate Tribal Fans. National Media fighting each other for contracts to show the sport. And National Company Sponsors willing to be associated with a huge sport in Poland, will all be gone in a flash quicker than it took Bartek to put the Wroclaw colours on... Hence we have the U24 League... Protecting their asset and brand... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,780 Posted July 19, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 12:41 PM, topsoil said: That 'fanatical support' seems to be on the wane when you see from their website that ekstraliga crowds this season are 20% down from those in 2018 and 2019. Also 'the operating model' contains Lucky Losers in the playoffs. You can finish sixth, get knocked out the playoffs and still end up league champions. I suspect that is in part due to losing Zelona Gora and gaining Ostrow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,363 Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 12:41 PM, topsoil said: That 'fanatical support' seems to be on the wane when you see from their website that ekstraliga crowds this season are 20% down from those in 2018 and 2019. Also 'the operating model' contains Lucky Losers in the playoffs. You can finish sixth, get knocked out the playoffs and still end up league champions. Teams in GB would love to have that lost 20% are there normal crowd figures.IMO Sponsorship is the main contribution to income over there,if that started to drop of there would be a problem .It’s looks strong at this present time though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted July 30, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 2:29 PM, steve roberts said: I guess it's down to personal opinion...I used to enjoy "The Black & White Minstrels" but the point is that there was more variety back then (good and bad) unlike today's bland "celeb" culture shows in whatever format, soaps (okay they've been around for many years but not at the intensity we now experience), and the constant "crime dramas" that now appear to fill our screens. BBC4 running with a celebration of Saturday Night on the beeb with a re-run of "The Generation Game" and the "Two Ronnies" tonight...know what I'll be watching...beats sport rammed down your throat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
