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Get Barry on the blower. If thereās dough to be made he may be interested. Never know, his family may be speedway fans from yesteryear.
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I was down in Poole last Wednesday on a lovely bright and breezy day when you postponed your solitary junior development event of the season š
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"Nigel! Hello Nigel!!! What do you think?".... A London Stadium GP would easily deliver 50,000 fans I would think... Tens of thousands from defunct London clubs whose fans still fondly remember the sport.. Admittedly, most will be well over 80, but you live longer these days don't you?... Also, a London GP would transform the sport in the wider UK... Almost overnight, dozens of business people will invest millions into purchasing land and more millions in building tracks... Just like the way sport has grown so much since Cardiff came onto the scene, it will be a huge success... Cardiff, when Wembley was being rebuilt, was the highest focused stadium in the country, hence UK Speedway was able to piggy back off this media focus and grow like it has for the last two decades or so... I can see a Saturday GP at the London Stadium being a huge success for both the series and UK Speedway in particular... Buxton could even run a meeting the next day... Easily 5,000 there I would think given the nation will have suddenly realised the night before that Speedway is still going...
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But mainly Leicester!!
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How do you know this? Maybe the novelty wore off, or the field did not entice, or people just felt they'd done it - that was the car with a couple of my friends.
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Do you miss the great occasion that was Cardiff ?
mikebv replied to Phannan's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
And High Beech wasn't a patch on the Maitland Showground in Australia.... Maybe they should run a GP there to relaunch Aussie Speedway and make the sport a huge success over there?.. I am sure that running a one off meeting there will have a 10,000 crowd attending Mildura through the season each meeting.... - Yesterday
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Absolutely but in all the time i attended Cardiff I do not recall the attendance being more than 45k A ready made stadium is always desirable but we don't really have one big enough to get a decent buzz about it, I do like the NSS but even with temporary seating for a world event its not big enough - that said it never sold out for the Speedway of nations the other year so what do I know! Coventry was always great for these events - a shame its no longer viable!
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Staging a Speedway Grand Prix at a temporary venue like Birminghamās Alexander Stadium is a massive financial gamble, heavily driven by infrastructure logistics. Because Alexander Stadium is primarily a premier athletics venue (with a fixed 18,000 capacity around its running track), hosting a GP requires building a bespoke, temporary dirt track from scratch and renting additional seating if you want to scale up. While exact, line-by-line budgets are kept strictly confidential by promoters, looking at what it takes to build a temporary track and secure an FIM license gives a realistic cost breakdown. You are looking at a total layout of **between Ā£1.5 million and Ā£2.5 million** for a single Grand Prix weekend. The major costs break down into three distinct pillars: ### 1. The Track Build & Logistics (Ā£400,000 ā Ā£600,000) Creating a raceable speedway track inside an athletics stadium requires meticulous engineering to protect the existing international-standard running track. * **Protection & Base Layer:** Thousands of wooden boards or heavy-duty plastic geotextile membranes must be laid down first to fully protect the underlying running surface from heavy machinery. * **The Dirt:** Promoters have to source, transport, and lay roughly 3,500 to 4,000 tonnes of specialised shale or granite mix. * **Safety Equipment:** You need to hire and install FIM-regulated air fences, starter gates, referee communication systems, and track-grading machinery (tractors and bowsers) for the weekend. * **The Tear-Down:** After the meeting, every single grain of shale has to be meticulously removed and the stadium pressure-washed back to pristine condition. ### 2. Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD) Rights & Sanction Fees (Ā£500,000 ā Ā£800,000) To host a round of the FIM Speedway Grand Prix, a local promoter or council must pay a substantial staging fee to the global rights holders, WBD Sports. * This fee secures the calendar slot, television production rights, and covers the base prize money fund for the 16 competing riders. ### 3. Stadium Hire, Staffing, and Temporary Infrastructure (Ā£400,000 ā Ā£600,000) Alexander Stadiumās permanent capacity sits at 18,000. While that is solid, a flagship British GP usually aims for higher numbers. * **Temporary Seating:** If a promoter wants to temporarily scale up capacity (Alexander Stadium can technically be expanded up to 40,000 using temporary grandstands), the hire cost sits around Ā£100 per temporary seat. Adding even 5,000 temporary seats can quickly add Ā£500,000 to the bill. * **Staffing & Overheads:** Hundreds of turnstile operators, stewards, medical personnel, and specialized track staff are needed, alongside the cost of hiring the stadium itself from Birmingham City Council. > **The Financial Catch:** Unlike a permanent venue (like Cardiff's Principality Stadium, which can absorb immense costs due to its 70,000-seat potential), Alexander Stadium has a lower financial ceiling. A promoter would need to guarantee packed-out stands and high-tier ticket pricing just to cover the upfront costs of transforming an athletics track into a world-class shale circuit. š ai
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I assume based on what has gone before the sport is bollocks and will never get back to its heyday and the hard core supporter iit had and is simply left with the remnants of what was a spectacle to be enjoyed by a diminishing number followers. All very sad
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I've been to Athletics there - it's a nice stadium good views no matter where you are sat, and yes if a track could be laid it would be ok for speedway I would think. Another potential one could be the Crystal Palace Athletics Arena - been there for Athletics too similar to Alexander Stadium.
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Somewhere like the Alexander Stadium in Birmingham might be the right size and even Nigel Tolley was talking of moving the Brummies there... but then he is completely mad š©
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BERWICK v GLASGOW (CL) Saturday, June 13th (7pm)
Neila replied to crescent girl's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
I'm hearing due to lack of interest the tiggers fans bus is cancelled š² always used to bring a bus full of fans to most tracks in the north, sign of the times š¤ maybe having streaming parties rather than going to the track these days -
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Hawk127 replied to gjcone44's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Fine, an acceptable response and I bow to your superior standing. Thank goodness standards are alive and well south of the Thames. Unfortunately I cannot claim the elitist status that you hold by living on the Essex Suffolk border but I can that being within local proximity to a prominent politician who will transform Jaywick into the next Sandbanks and believe me the beaches could do it but everything else needs a serious injection of investment to bring it up to the standard that the Victorians enjoyed, Jaywick was the place to go back in the day and it does not need any boat people to raise the standards. It is a hidden gem needing investment but the beach / coast alone takes some beating. -
It was announced at the Manchester GP that Monster are running some kind of 3 round series within the series for the Polish GP's, I didn't pick up on all the details. And of course BSI ran some kind of "Super Prix" back in the noghties, the richest 60 seconds in motorsport or something, was that for Ā£100k Benfield Sports International (BSI) did run a massive cash-prize gimmick in the noughties, and it is the exact reason why that specific "richest minute" phrase exists. The event was the **2007 German Speedway Grand Prix**, held at the Veltins-Arena in Gelsenkirchen on October 13, 2007. BSI heavily promoted it because it marked the **100th Grand Prix** since the SGP series took over from the old one-off World Finals. To celebrate the milestone, BSI put up a staggering **$100,000 cash prize** strictly for the winner of the Grand Prix final. Because a standard four-lap final takes roughly 60 seconds, BSIās entire marketing campaign for the meeting billed that specific race as **"The Richest Minute in Sport."** Here is how that dramatic night actually played out: * **The Track Farce:** The event became infamous for all the wrong reasons. The temporary track laid inside the football stadium began disintegrating almost immediately during practice and the early heats, with massive ruts and chunks of shale flying up. * **The Delayed Drama:** The track was deemed so dangerous that the meeting had to be completely abandoned on Saturday night and re-staged the following afternoon (Sunday, October 14). * **The Winner:** After all the chaos, the legendary **Andreas Jonsson** won the re-staged final, successfully pocketing the $100,000 cheque for his 60 seconds of work. He beat Greg Hancock, Jason Crump, and Leigh Adams to the line. While the actual event in Germany was a bit of a logistical nightmare for BSI, the marketing line worked so well that the "richest 60 seconds" tagline stuck around in speedway media and broadcasting for years afterward.
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I don't really disagree with any of that - however the GP even in Poland and other countries is restricted to smaller stadia now which suggests that at 10 rounds they are maxed, perhaps less is more and build back up from there! I can remember the Danish GP being at Parken (capacity 35k) now its at Vojens 15k? Every promoter down under that's tried has made huge losses if i recall things correctly. I reckon a 20k stadia would be about right - that way it could create that atmosphere and buzz - there is nothing worse than sitting in a half or even majority empty stadium at a sporting event regardless of what it is! I even remember the 1989 world final at the Olympic Stadium in Munich and that wasn't sold out either despite it being a healthy crowd. This might bring back some happy memories - World Final at Odsal 1985 - 37,000 apparently! https://www.yfanefa.com/record/2011
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Unless you can grow the core base of the sport it is unlikely that you will ever have 80k plus attend a speedway meeting in the UK.. Those days have long gone. However, and it is a gamble, but you almost need to do a āKerry Packerā and consider thinking outside the box and put on a high value/stakes individual series over and above the GP where the winner gets to take home a substantial amount and for example you have a three or four meeting challenge where the overall winner gets to take home Euro1m plus. The sport itself is high octane high risk and with a format that has a winner takes all it has to be worth a punt assuming you can get the sponsors but it will take a good sales pitch and the Poles are best placed to do this. If it can be sold to sponsors you have one round in Scandinavia, one in UK and one in Poland and it has to be the top riders based on averages not just pandering to smaller nations. The sport needs to invest in its profile and the current GP format generates little interest outside the current hard core following hence it plays in spectator terms, to a mediocre audience in the stadia which in the main leave a lot to be desired and it is never going to take itself to a higher level or reach the previously historic support that you saw at a Wembley final. It needs vision and marketing and unfortunately only the Polish authorities can sell the concept to a European/world wide audience. The UK cronies have no chance of being instrumental in selling the sport at the level needed
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Phannan replied to gjcone44's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Oysters dear boy. I live near Whitstable. Unless you mean the STD kind ..