Skodaman 192 Posted January 5, 2014 There are rumours flying around about a number of Aussie riders having visa problems again; does anyone have any actual facts yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) There are rumours flying around about a number of Aussie riders having visa problems again; does anyone have any actual facts yet. As mentioned on some other 'team' threads, I believe this has originated from a Paul Burbidge (www.speedwaygp.com) tweet from Kurri Kurri after a conversation with Jason Doyle, in which Doyley apparently said that his application had been returned/refused!!?? No other 'facts' have emerged to date!! Edited January 5, 2014 by Skidder1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulco 7,077 Posted January 5, 2014 There's quite a speedway gathering at the ice hockey on a Saturday night in Glasgow , and the names of Doyle , Tungate and Davies were mentioned in relation to this . Though how an established rider of Doyle's calibre has problems is beyond me . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,363 Posted January 5, 2014 There's quite a speedway gathering at the ice hockey on a Saturday night in Glasgow , and the names of Doyle , Tungate and Davies were mentioned in relation to this . Though how an established rider of Doyle's calibre has problems is beyond me .agree given the difficulties with Masters and Campton last year you would think Professional sportsmen would be on top of the situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryW 1,178 Posted January 5, 2014 There's quite a speedway gathering at the ice hockey on a Saturday night in Glasgow , and the names of Doyle , Tungate and Davies were mentioned in relation to this . Though how an established rider of Doyle's calibre has problems is beyond me . Obviously we know that the laws changes last year which caught out some riders, including Sam Masters and Mason Campton, so you would assume that lessons would have been learned and no-one would be caught out by failing to get the extension applied for this time around. However, it was mentioned during Sam Masters appeal process that both Alex Davies and Jason Doyle had received visas for 2013 despite being in exactly the same situation as Sam. I wonder if it's possible that they have now had their application for a visa extension refused because their current visas were incorrectly provided. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triple.H. 1,986 Posted January 5, 2014 Wasnt Alex Davies born over here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,057 Posted January 5, 2014 Giving the amount of riders who seem to be having difficulties with their visas,its fair to say that theres every chance certain teams will change before March.But if you sign riders who need visas your taking a chance that their visas will be refused,more homework needed in certain clubs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryW 1,178 Posted January 5, 2014 Wasnt Alex Davies born over here Yes, Alex was born in the UK but doesn't qualify for a British passport meaning that he requires a visa to compete here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triple.H. 1,986 Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) Why doesn't he qualify for a British passport if his birth certificate says he was born here surely he can get one. Lets face it if you were born kn Timbuktu you probably qualify. Edited January 5, 2014 by Triple.H. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryW 1,178 Posted January 5, 2014 Why doesn't he qualify for a British passport if his birth certificate says he was born here surely he can get one. Lets face it if you were born kn Timbuktu you probably qualify. You can only get a British passport if you are a British citizen and being born in Britain is not the only criteria required to become a British citizen. If you were born in the UK after 1st January 1983 you only qualify for British citizenship if either of your parents were British citizens or your parents were officially "settled" in the UK. Neither of these were true for Alex. He applied for a British passport a couple of years ago but was rejected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triple.H. 1,986 Posted January 5, 2014 Well the laws an ass probably the same ass as lots of "British citizens" rode to the airport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weatherwatcher 664 Posted January 5, 2014 Haven't we come a long way in this country. We welcome in anyone from the EU. Who can now work over here, but to anyone from our old Comonwealth, they are now no longer clased as being citizen of our great British Isles. As Queen Victoria would have said "We are not amused" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arson fire 4,785 Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) Well the laws an ass probably the same ass as lots of "British citizens" rode to the airport.so all these imigrants who come here and have kids.... Their kids are British??? If they don't meet the criteria then its tough really, the same as the ordeal it is to go and work in Australia. Edited January 5, 2014 by Arson fire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,362 Posted January 5, 2014 There's quite a speedway gathering at the ice hockey on a Saturday night in Glasgow , and the names of Doyle , Tungate and Davies were mentioned in relation to this . Though how an established rider of Doyle's calibre has problems is beyond me . He probably put in a bad application, so I would imagine it's a case of re-applying. The clubs need to take a lot of responsibility with visa applications in my opinion. they are, after all, the sponsors and it would be partly up to them to prove that Doyle is worthy as well as making sure all the documentation is in order. Why doesn't he qualify for a British passport if his birth certificate says he was born here surely he can get one. Lets face it if you were born kn Timbuktu you probably qualify. You would only qualify if your parents are legally resident of the UK. I don't know his situation, but presumably they weren't. so all these imigrants who come here and have kids.... Their kids are British??? Yes, if they are settled here then their kids would qualify as citizens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arson fire 4,785 Posted January 5, 2014 He probably put in a bad application, so I would imagine it's a case of re-applying. The clubs need to take a lot of responsibility with visa applications in my opinion. they are, after all, the sponsors and it would be partly up to them to prove that Doyle is worthy as well as making sure all the documentation is in order. You would only qualify if your parents are legally resident of the UK. I don't know his situation, but presumably they weren't. Yes, if they are settled here then their kids would qualify as citizens. so my mothers from the Congo, dads from Belgium.... But I'm British?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
