Fromafar 10,378 Posted December 19, 2016 SS is a great read during the season and covers the results World Wide ,the moaners on her don't even buy on a weekly basis( there prerogative)yet tell you how poor it is !!!!.I enjoy it all the year round it is a good casual read in the winter months.Subscription makes it a value for money magazine comparing it with other publications. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigcatdiary 3,165 Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Your postie is talking garbage. Quite possibly but since I complained (a few years ago) my copy has arrived pretty much on time every week, so clearly something changed. Edited December 19, 2016 by bigcatdiary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted December 19, 2016 SS is a great read during the season and covers the results World Wide ,the moaners on her don't even buy on a weekly basis( there prerogative)yet tell you how poor it is !!!!.I enjoy it all the year round it is a good casual read in the winter months.Subscription makes it a value for money magazine comparing it with other publications. That can only be an opinion and not a fact. Exactly the same with my argument - it is only my opinion. I believe that I read the Magazine enough to make a judgement for my own benefit. I am aware and accept that not everyone agrees with me. That is fine by me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,378 Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) That can only be an opinion and not a fact. Exactly the same with my argument - it is only my opinion. I believe that I read the Magazine enough to make a judgement for my own benefit. I am aware and accept that not everyone agrees with me. That is fine by me. Ok.where did I say it was a fact!As usual you read to much into a Post and give your opinion(which you are entitled too) Edited December 19, 2016 by Fromafar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted December 19, 2016 Ok.where did I say it was a fact!As usual you read to much into a Post and give your opinion(which you are entitled too) Which in most issues is negative, but he still thinks he is a speedway fan. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,356 Posted December 19, 2016 Quite possibly but since I complained (a few years ago) my copy has arrived pretty much on time every week, so clearly something changed. Yeh, you was in when it was delivered... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlanF 295 Posted December 19, 2016 With the number of people regularly watching speedway these days it is a minor miracle that the sport even has a weekly magazine, let alone one as good as Speedway Star. The various comments on here show that you are never going to please everybody all the time. One person's favorite feature is another person's pet peeve. Personally, I love the behind the scenes features and the stats. I have zero interest in what happened in the 1940's and 1950's and the grasstrack scene but I realize that other people like those features. I love to be able to download it to my ipad, but others prefer to have the magazine in their hand. I think that it would be a very sad day if the Star disappeared. We should enjoy it while we can. I am sure that Philip Rising and co are happy to take on any constructive criticism, but the negativity towards the Star is astounding. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted December 19, 2016 Ok.where did I say it was a fact!As usual you read to much into a Post and give your opinion(which you are entitled too) You didn't. Sorry if I upset you with my views - that was not my intention hence the smiley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinmauger 584 Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) My only real issue with the Star is the coverage of grasstrack racing, does anyone know how many readers are interested in this discipline of oval sport. Not knocking it at all, I have been to grass & sandtrack meets but the mag is the Speedway Star not Speedway & Grasstrack Star. Surely grass & sand racing would be better suited to, say, Motorcycle news. E.g. years ago there was a tabloid paper format publication, much like Speedway Mail, called Trials & Motocross News, dunno whether it's still published. Oh how newsagents would try to palm that one onto me as they couldn't be bothered searching for my 'Star or 'Mail. "But it's still motorbikes" used to be their last plea before the trouble of needing to look under the counter. Also with the grasstrack coverage taking time out until the new year I'd like the 'Star to cover the amateur scene. Ok it's 'only' amateur guys & galls, but you do get some real competitive racing, there are fewer spills than you might imagine and this is where the next MDL, NJL, National league, etc riders will likely originate. The amateur scene is well worth a look as it's free entry, it is at Scunny, and it's a joy to behold how they rattle though 60+ heats in 4 hours.... Edited December 20, 2016 by Martin Mauger 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) My only real issue with the Star is the coverage of grasstrack racing, does anyone know how many readers are interested in this discipline of oval sport. Not knocking it at all, I have been to grass & sandtrack meets but the mag is the Speedway Star not Speedway & Grasstrack Star. Surely grass & sand racing would be better suited to, say, Motorcycle news. E.g. years ago there was a tabloid paper format publication, much like Speedway Mail, called Trials & Motocross News, dunno whether it's still published. Oh how newsagents would try to palm that one onto me as they couldn't be bothered searching for my 'Star or 'Mail. "But it's still motorbikes" used to be their last plea before the trouble of needing to look under the counter. Also with the grasstrack coverage taking time out until the new year I'd like the 'Star to cover the amateur scene. Ok it's 'only' amateur guys & galls, but you do get some real competitive racing, there are fewer spills than you might imagine and this is where the next MDL, NJL, National league, etc riders will likely originate. The amateur scene is well worth a look as it's free entry, it is at Scunny, and it's a joy to behold how they rattle though 60+ heats in 4 hours.... What is the actual casual spectator attendance at these amateur meetings - not those who are involved with or are related to a family member who is competing? I support the 'Speedway Star' coverage of grass track racing. It is 'very closely related' to speedway in the bikes used and many of the riders who race at grass track meetings both in the UK and Europe are well known to speedway supporters. The same applies to long track racing, flat track racing and ice racing. IMO the 'Speedway Star' has it correct in its coverage of the various types of track racing. Edited December 20, 2016 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,997 Posted December 20, 2016 My only real issue with the Star is the coverage of grasstrack racing, does anyone know how many readers are interested in this discipline of oval sport. Not knocking it at all, I have been to grass & sandtrack meets but the mag is the Speedway Star not Speedway & Grasstrack Star. Surely grass & sand racing would be better suited to, say, Motorcycle news. E.g. years ago there was a tabloid paper format publication, much like Speedway Mail, called Trials & Motocross News, dunno whether it's still published. Oh how newsagents would try to palm that one onto me as they couldn't be bothered searching for my 'Star or 'Mail. "But it's still motorbikes" used to be their last plea before the trouble of needing to look under the counter. Also with the grasstrack coverage taking time out until the new year I'd like the 'Star to cover the amateur scene. Ok it's 'only' amateur guys & galls, but you do get some real competitive racing, there are fewer spills than you might imagine and this is where the next MDL, NJL, National league, etc riders will likely originate. The amateur scene is well worth a look as it's free entry, it is at Scunny, and it's a joy to behold how they rattle though 60+ heats in 4 hours.... I would say this is often the speedway fan view.As i posted on the Superprestigio thread,Flat track was tried out alongside speedway/Longtrack and a lot f fans cried out that they didn't want to be spending money watching it,rather if there was going to be more races,then please,more speedway.Guess it is the same with the Speedway Star,that fans don't want cycle speedway or flat track or now grasstrack taking up any space.Must say when i got the Star i didn't begrudge the Grasstrack section,i just thought it was poorly presented when compared to the speedway sections Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted December 20, 2016 I would say this is often the speedway fan view.As i posted on the Superprestigio thread,Flat track was tried out alongside speedway/Longtrack and a lot f fans cried out that they didn't want to be spending money watching it,rather if there was going to be more races,then please,more speedway.Guess it is the same with the Speedway Star,that fans don't want cycle speedway or flat track or now grasstrack taking up any space.Must say when i got the Star i didn't begrudge the Grasstrack section,i just thought it was poorly presented when compared to the speedway sections Agree with that. At least with Grasstrack it does include some names of current or past riders within their reports. If the grass track fraternity buy the SS, it can only help the circulation figures and our magazines viability. Interestingly, the Speedway Star and News used to contain Ice Hockey News, so that combination would have been helpful to us, even though there would not have been a cross over element. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted December 20, 2016 Agree with that. At least with Grasstrack it does include some names of current or past riders within their reports. If the grass track fraternity buy the SS, it can only help the circulation figures and our magazines viability. Interestingly, the Speedway Star and News used to contain Ice Hockey News, so that combination would have been helpful to us, even though there would not have been a cross over element. When Oxford re-introduced an Ice Hockey team (1984) it was surprising how many speedway fans attended. It was a way of keeping in touch during the winter months...and good entertainment it was too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinmauger 584 Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) Some fair points, least it got everyone talking about it. I do read the grsstrack section, seen as I read the Star from cover to cover and back again, but pretty much skim through it unless speedway names are involved. It just isn't my top soprt. In some of the amateur events at Scunny they have flatrack section and road bikes. Indeed the one event I took my father to; last oval action Hull Angels 1949. (Ok he saw some beach racing with me at Filey, East Yorkshire in the late 1970's but 1949 sounds good). I finally wore him down and his interest was sparked purely by the varied bikes on dsiplay. But he throughly enjoyed it, talking my brother's ear off about it for ages, he enjoyed the speedway bikes too and will defo be back next year, maybe I could tempt him into attending a pukka speedway meet... Edited December 20, 2016 by Martin Mauger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) In the late 1950s I was a keen ice hockey fan and used to watch the Harringay Racers and Wembley Monarchs (the clubs also had teams Harringay Racers and Wembley Lions). Most of the ice hockey supporters were also follows of the Harringay and Wembley speedway teams. Also in the late 1950s the Speedway Star besides its ice hockey coverage also catered for sidecar racing, midget car racing, films and records! Edited December 20, 2016 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
