Mark 1,497 Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: ARE you sure ... thought the Manchester date was always October. It was cancelled due to Covid in May. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,057 Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Najjer said: It’s interesting that he hasn’t got a gig out in Poland when the likes of Craig Cook, Charles Wright and then even riders of a similar calibre over here like Sam Masters are riding in the Polish 3rd tier this year, Brady Kurtz, Nick Morris in the past and other Australians too of similar calibre. I’m sure if they were that desperate for a ride out in Poland they could get it but probably just happy earning a living double upping in Britain And there in lies the problem, when a rider like either of the Worralls, Charles Wright etc can earn a very decent living riding in two leagues over here why would they want to try Poland or Sweden, maybe a little to much out of their comfort zone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,367 Posted October 18, 2020 43 minutes ago, screm said: And there in lies the problem, when a rider like either of the Worralls, Charles Wright etc can earn a very decent living riding in two leagues over here why would they want to try Poland or Sweden, maybe a little to much out of their comfort zone. To be honest they are not really good enough for Top Tier in Poland and as Cook and others have found out even In lower divisions a bad meeting and you are out.GB really only have Woffy and Lambert at that level.Belwey has had this season in Poland and has struggled. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bavarian 767 Posted October 18, 2020 2 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: The only people who want teams back are the sore Polish losers. The true World Cup final of 2020 for me was that Poland v Russia Test Match at Bydgosczc - and Russia won that one, too ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted October 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, Bavarian said: The true World Cup final of 2020 for me was that Poland v Russia Test Match at Bydgosczc - and Russia won that one, too ! Poland were below strength. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tellboy 3,662 Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said: IT was moved to Poland because nearly all the riders were there .. no doubt the NSS were happy to have their staging postponed for a season when hopefully there will be no crowd restrictions. That's a pretty poor excuse for them not to hold it in Manchester. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevehone 3,429 Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, screm said: As mentioned Jack Holder was in the original team, hopefully we will find out the reason why he refused his team place. not at Torun? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobMcCaffery 2,752 Posted October 18, 2020 The Worralls have both raced in Poland's League 2 in recent years with reasonable success. I think it was for Rawicz. They missed this season though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LagutaRacingFan 1,936 Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Mark said: Poland were below strength. Who Poland pick is up to their manager and federation. On yesterday's track, Janowski would have been awful. He chickens out when the going gets tough. Edited October 18, 2020 by KeirStarmerFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben91 1,743 Posted October 18, 2020 2 hours ago, screm said: And there in lies the problem, when a rider like either of the Worralls, Charles Wright etc can earn a very decent living riding in two leagues over here why would they want to try Poland or Sweden, maybe a little to much out of their comfort zone. Scrap doubling up. Improve the standard of our riders by putting them out of their comfort zone and improve the quality of the product here by not having riders with more clubs than Tiger Woods. I like it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,643 Posted October 18, 2020 37 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said: The Worralls have both raced in Poland's League 2 in recent years with reasonable success. I think it was for Rawicz. They missed this season though. Ritchie: http://www.zuzel.ugu.pl/index.php?profil=2885&tab=1 Steve: http://www.zuzel.ugu.pl/index.php?profil=3010&tab=1 Neither rode in Poland in 2019 or '20. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted October 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Who Poland pick is up to their manager and federation. On yesterday's track, Janowski would have been awful. He chickens out when the going gets tough. . You have had a good year with trolling. Come back in 2021 with some more. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PolskiZuzel 329 Posted October 18, 2020 When In the 80s, the Danes dominated WTC somehow it did not bother anyone. The Danes had a golden generation of champions, and they used them for quite a few years. Nobody thought of calling off the competition in which one nation dominates, in the same way nobody is calling off Polish club competition dominated in the last four years by one club. So when Poles came to the fore after years of drought, the FIM abandoned the exciting competition that often kept fans in suspense until the last race, and sometimes even the last bend. They did it under the ridiculous pretext of allegedly caring for the development of the speedway. Mind you, it has to be clear that Poles did not always win. They also had to swallow the bitterness of defeat, for example in Bydgoszcz, where Niels Kristian Iversen stole the gold from them in the last few yards. All the time, however, there were great emotions and great promotion of speedway. What do we have now? A two-day competition, where riders are to run 42 races, but in the end everything is decided by the grand final anyway. To this day, no one knows whether this competition called the Speedway of Nations is a continuator of the WTC or the World Best Pairs. FIM itself, cannot answer this question, saying that it is the championship of … wait for it… Speedway of Nations. What a ridiculous name. Finally, a simple question for the gentlemen from the FIM. Isn’t he Speedway of Nations getting boring? After all the Russians win it year after year. it doesn't matter whether the final takes place in Wrocław, Togliatti or on a soggy track in Lublin, interrupted after 14 races? Russia are the champion and that's it! I’d say, yes it is getting boring. (as seen from sportowefakty.pl point of view) 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted October 18, 2020 2 hours ago, tellboy said: That's a pretty poor excuse for them not to hold it in Manchester. WHY? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted October 18, 2020 THE FIM will probably argue that the change wasn't simply to weaken Poland's chances of winning but to have more nations involved which in turn would encourage young riders in those countries to have aspirations of appearing on the international stage. Personally prefer the old-style World Cup. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites