steve roberts 9,246 Posted April 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, Garry1603 said: I agree, it's impossible to compare different eras in pretty much all sports (the perennial who was better Pele or Messi, Sampras or Federer, Bradman or Richards etc etc). You actually CAN'T compare as they were the best they could be in their own era and that comes down to ability, mentality, coaching, support, fitness and motivation. If Bradman were around today, would he be any good?..... yes of course he would because he had the mentality and the other attributes to MAKE himself good. Absolutely. Jackie Stewart made similar comparisons in his most excellent autobiography. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,092 Posted April 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: I think not a different era a different challenge believe it or not we are all entitled to maybe have a different opinion.? It has NOTHING to do with opinions! You need to stop make ridiculously false accusations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,092 Posted April 18, 2020 3 hours ago, falcace said: Jeez. This kicked off. Again! Well, you started it! I suppose that's what happens when you make a sensible post on here... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted April 18, 2020 Another favourite year was 1984 (yes! I'm allowed more than one!). A new era was about to commence at Cowley. The buzz of excitement and anticipation was immense. Having spent eight mostly enjoyable years in the National League Northern Sports thought it was the right thing to re-join the British League. Hackney's licence was purchased and a great looking team full of potential and experience was gathered. Hans Nielsen, Simon Wigg, Jens Rasmussen, Marvyn Cox, Melvyn Taylor with both Nigel Sparshott (some years later to be tragically kileed in a car accident) and Ian Clark were retained from the 1983 side. The team started the season like dynamite with away wins at King's Lynn, Ipswich, Wimbledon, Exeter and Reading and continued on their merry way despite Wimbledon upsetting the party at Cowley with a side inspired by one-time "Rebel" Gordon Kennett. Unfortunately injuries began to take their toll and the stuffing was knocked out of the team and the rest of season tailed off but what memories...and, of course, things got even better in 1985 and 1986! What memories! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted April 18, 2020 53 minutes ago, chunky said: Well, you started it! I suppose that's what happens when you make a sensible post on here... Have you ever made a sensible post Chunky ? unless you really believe in yourself?..Your latest statement shows me you have a real,arrogance my friend can you ever look at any other people's opinion and maybe come in the middle i,think not you feel you know best sad really.!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, chunky said: It has NOTHING to do with opinions! You need to stop make ridiculously false accusations. Chunky you are a fraud and you have an agenda certainly against me if i said it was white you would say it was black.All would say is don't get to stressed don't make your self ill maybe Bewitcher could help,you.? Edited April 18, 2020 by Sidney the robin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,986 Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: Chunky you are a fraud and you have an agenda certainly against me if i said it was white you would say it was black.All would say is don't get to stressed don't make your self ill maybe Bewitcher could help,you.? Sometimes you get deeply in trenches and can’t see the wood for the trees, Sid . Just let it go sometimes 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted April 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, iris123 said: Sometimes you get deeply in trenches and can’t see the wood for the trees, Sid . Just let it go sometimes No please Iris don't lecture me !!! you Chunky,Bewitcher are joint at the hip grow a backbone be independent believe in yourself.You three are all predictable a real shame as you all have a lot to offer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, iris123 said: Sometimes you get deeply in trenches and can’t see the wood for the trees, Sid . Just let it go sometimes We're joined at the hip Iris! Sid's come out with some crackers in his time... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,110 Posted April 18, 2020 I'm sorry, Sidney, but iris is right. It's such a shame because most times on these Years Gone By posts you usually have some interesting things to say, but really, you don't do yourself any favours when you get into these sort of personal rants about people just because you happen to disagree with them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOBBATH 467 Posted April 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, norbold said: I'm sorry, Sidney, but iris is right. It's such a shame because most times on these Years Gone By posts you usually have some interesting things to say, but really, you don't do yourself any favours when you get into these sort of personal rants about people just because you happen to disagree with them. 5 minutes ago, norbold said: I'm sorry, Sidney, but iris is right. It's such a shame because most times on these Years Gone By posts you usually have some interesting things to say, but really, you don't do yourself any favours when you get into these sort of personal rants about people just because you happen to disagree with them. Why is everybody getting so uptight?-lets go back to talking about the CH pork sarnies (sorry!!!!) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted April 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, BOBBATH said: Why is everybody getting so uptight?-lets go back to talking about the CH pork sarnies (sorry!!!!) You know that on all the visits I made to Dudley Wood...and there were many during the rivalry that existed between Oxford and Cradley and Nielsen and Gundersen...I don't recall partaking in such a delicacy? I know thay were for sale but I guess it just past me by. I preferred the fish 'n' chips we used to buy at Shipston-on-Stour on the way back home! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,362 Posted April 18, 2020 7 hours ago, steve roberts said: ...if it had been introduced during the eighties Nielsen would have dominated the scene of which I have no doubt. I think so too. But this is the thing. Does that mean it is harder or easier to win a one-off World Final? A one-off World Final was harder to win for Nielsen but, at the same time, probably easier to win for Gundersen, who was more of a 'rise to the occasion' rider. You can't say one was easier or harder than the other. At the end of the day/series there is still only one winner, 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,727 Posted April 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, steve roberts said: You know that on all the visits I made to Dudley Wood...and there were many during the rivalry that existed between Oxford and Cradley and Nielsen and Gundersen...I don't recall partaking in such a delicacy? I know thay were for sale but I guess it just past me by. I preferred the fish 'n' chips we used to buy at Shipston-on-Stour on the way back home! We used to have both 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted April 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grachan said: I think so too. But this is the thing. Does that mean it is harder or easier to win a one-off World Final? A one-off World Final was harder to win for Nielsen but, at the same time, probably easier to win for Gundersen, who was more of a 'rise to the occasion' rider. You can't say one was easier or harder than the other. At the end of the day/series there is still only one winner, Fair analysis. Nielsen was more consistant and therefore dominant over any given year whereas Gundersen, as you say, could raise himself when required. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
