Elmo 274 Posted September 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Solidmango said: From a Glasgow perspective, we don't have any real urgency/need to run this meeting before the cut off, as long as we get the Birmingham meeting on Friday, and we get 3pts, then we are secure in second place. The only team that could overtake us is Leicester by beating us at home, that assumes Redcar don't win at Poole tonight. But from a Leicester perspective, if Poole beat Redcar, Glasgow beat Birmingham and Leicester beat Kent, then Leicester will only need a draw at Glasgow to finish second. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PowerfulPierre 88 Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) Taken from the S.C.B. book of rules:- (no doubt subject to change, re-writing, alteration, making it up as they go along or buggering it about if it's for the good of the sport)! 010.1.2 Completion of Fixtures It is the duty of the staging Promotion to ensure that all fixtures are completed and in the event of it being necessary to re-arrange a team fixture, the Promoter(s)/Associate(s) shall mutually agree a re-staging date. Should they fail to agree the sole authority to specify a date and/or venue for the re-staging shall lie with the BSPA Directors. In all events that count towards an Official British Speedway Competition the Regulations must be adhered to and any team or individual found in breach of the Regulations, will be liable to a penalty including the loss of league points or removal from a competition. So, if Glasgow have failed to stage the event by the cut off date, then aren't they in breech of the regulations and loose the league points or in this case, points should have to be awarded to the opposing team? Edited September 22, 2021 by PowerfulPierre 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambo 1,344 Posted September 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, Elmo said: But from a Leicester perspective, if Poole beat Redcar, Glasgow beat Birmingham and Leicester beat Kent, then Leicester will only need a draw at Glasgow to finish second. But, do the Leicester riders want to finish second? 3rd - 6th placed teams have 2 Play Off meetings guaranteed, with the chance of a further 2 meetings. 1st & 2nd have only 2 Play Off meetings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,436 Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Elmo said: But from a Leicester perspective, if Poole beat Redcar, Glasgow beat Birmingham and Leicester beat Kent, then Leicester will only need a draw at Glasgow to finish second. Only 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazc 7,174 Posted September 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, PowerfulPierre said: Taken from the S.C.B. book of rules:- (no doubt subject to change, re-writing, alteration, making it up as they go along or buggering it about if it's for the good of the sport)! 010.1.2 Completion of Fixtures It is the duty of the staging Promotion to ensure that all fixtures are completed and in the event of it being necessary to re-arrange a team fixture, the Promoter(s)/Associate(s) shall mutually agree a re-staging date. Should they fail to agree the sole authority to specify a date and/or venue for the re-staging shall lie with the BSPA Directors. In all events that count towards an Official British Speedway Competition the Regulations must be adhered to and any team or individual found in breach of the Regulations, will be liable to a penalty including the loss of league points or removal from a competition. So, if Glasgow have failed to stage the event by the cut off date, then aren't they in breech of the regulations and loose the league points or in this case, points should have to be awarded to the opposing team? Wouldn’t imagine so they can’t control the weather unfortunately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Endeavour 689 Posted September 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, Gambo said: But, do the Leicester riders want to finish second? 3rd - 6th placed teams have 2 Play Off meetings guaranteed, with the chance of a further 2 meetings. 1st & 2nd have only 2 Play Off meetings. Would have thought those involved in top league play offs do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,436 Posted September 22, 2021 42 minutes ago, PowerfulPierre said: Taken from the S.C.B. book of rules:- (no doubt subject to change, re-writing, alteration, making it up as they go along or buggering it about if it's for the good of the sport)! 010.1.2 Completion of Fixtures It is the duty of the staging Promotion to ensure that all fixtures are completed and in the event of it being necessary to re-arrange a team fixture, the Promoter(s)/Associate(s) shall mutually agree a re-staging date. Should they fail to agree the sole authority to specify a date and/or venue for the re-staging shall lie with the BSPA Directors. In all events that count towards an Official British Speedway Competition the Regulations must be adhered to and any team or individual found in breach of the Regulations, will be liable to a penalty including the loss of league points or removal from a competition. So, if Glasgow have failed to stage the event by the cut off date, then aren't they in breech of the regulations and loose the league points or in this case, points should have to be awarded to the opposing team? No they are not ,and it has happened in the past that Teams did not complete fixtures before cut -off date.Theyhad to complete the fixture before the end of season though or face a hefty fine.Even though it was meaning less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,695 Posted September 22, 2021 43 minutes ago, Fromafar said: No they are not ,and it has happened in the past that Teams did not complete fixtures before cut -off date.Theyhad to complete the fixture before the end of season though or face a hefty fine.Even though it was meaning less. And for a truly bizarre example look no further than Workington v Lakeside in 2018 which was "iced off" after 4 heats the day after the same two teams raced on the same track in the Championship Play-off Grand Final Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,436 Posted September 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, arnieg said: And for a truly bizarre example look no further than Workington v Lakeside in 2018 which was "iced off" after 4 heats the day after the same two teams raced on the same track in the Championship Play-off Grand Final Yip,I was there.Totally bonkers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noelinho 948 Posted September 22, 2021 I wasn’t sure, having seen the forecast earlier, if we might regret the call-of today, but looking out of the window now, I see plenty of wind and rain outside. Glad I won’t be trying to stand in that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,436 Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Noelinho said: I wasn’t sure, having seen the forecast earlier, if we might regret the call-of today, but looking out of the window now, I see plenty of wind and rain outside. Glad I won’t be trying to stand in that. After Sunday’s fiasco the weather forecast means nothing if there is a cloud in the Sky during the day of the meeting.I would really like the think what the Facenna’s real thoughts on the situation that arose were.Pretty sure they were not the diplomatic answer they had to give out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazc 7,174 Posted September 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Fromafar said: After Sunday’s fiasco the weather forecast means nothing if there is a cloud in the Sky during the day of the meeting.I would really like the think what the Facenna’s real thoughts on the situation that arose were.Pretty sure they were not the diplomatic answer they had to give out. Maybe next year when putting a team together there first question on signing might be. Do you like Rain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noelinho 948 Posted September 22, 2021 33 minutes ago, Fromafar said: After Sunday’s fiasco the weather forecast means nothing if there is a cloud in the Sky during the day of the meeting.I would really like the think what the Facenna’s real thoughts on the situation that arose were.Pretty sure they were not the diplomatic answer they had to give out. Yes, Peter did not look happy at all on Sunday, though he said what he had to. In the circumstances, fully understandable they weren’t going to take any risks today. I felt bad for them and the track staff on Sunday. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,193 Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Noelinho said: I wasn’t sure, having seen the forecast earlier, if we might regret the call-of today, but looking out of the window now, I see plenty of wind and rain outside. Glad I won’t be trying to stand in that. I thought you'd supposed to be tough north of the border? Good job it was clear skies back in the April of 1746 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazc 7,174 Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, iainb said: I thought you'd supposed to be tough north of the border? Good job it was clear skies back in the April of 1746 We are tough with the exception of in no paticular order of wimpiness. We hate Rain We hate Wind strong especially We really hate snow We hate hailstones We hate sleet We hate brown sauce on our Black Pudding We hate middle lane motorway drivers We hate Kilts without Boxers on We hate Hot weather especially Ginger People (No offence to Ginger people) We hate kebab sauce when we are drunk And finally we hate trying to get the key in the door whilst Pis*ed after she has locked you out There is plenty more but that should do for starters. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites