mikebv 10,387 Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Panthers99 said: http://www.wolverhampton-speedway.com/_mobile/news.php?extend.3672 Oooerrrrr. That's about right... Moaning about the way the guest facilty is consistently applied, rather than running the sport with no need for guest facilities at all... If they spent more time promoting the sport instead of making up ludicrous rules which means lengthy conversations around how to apply them, (with all the subsequent fall out and ridicule around them making the whole thing look pointless), then maybe, just maybe, the sport would be in much ruder health.. And maybe tracks wouldn't close so frequently due to landlords not getting the rent potential that 3000 fans at each meeting could let the clubs pay.. Interesting article in the (excellent again), Speedway Star with the KL co promoter saying that with 7 teams there isnt enough riders.. What nonsense.. The whole of Europe and Scandinavia is opened up with fixed race nights.. The fact those riders might not want to come over definitely isnt down to a lack of rider numbers.. And if 7 man teams means not enough cover for replacements then simply reduce the amount of riders per team which will then create a surplus... No. Let's keep doing the same thing each year and get that fiddle out whilst the place burns around us.. Because that works well doesnt it? Edited May 7, 2023 by mikebv 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TTT 1,277 Posted May 7, 2023 45 minutes ago, mikebv said: That's about right... Moaning about the way the guest facilty is consistently applied, rather than running the sport with no need for guest facilities at all... If they spent more time promoting the sport instead of making up ludicrous rules which means lengthy conversations around how to apply them, (with all the subsequent fall out and ridicule around them making the whole thing look pointless), then maybe, just maybe, the sport would be in much ruder health.. And maybe tracks wouldn't close so frequently due to landlords not getting the rent potential that 3000 fans at each meeting could let the clubs pay.. Interesting article in the (excellent again), Speedway Star with the KL co promoter saying that with 7 teams there isnt enough riders.. What nonsense.. The whole of Europe and Scandinavia is opened up with fixed race nights.. The fact those riders might not want to come over definitely it isnt down to a lack of rider numbers.. And if 7 man teams means not enough cover for replacements then simply reduce the amount of riders per team which will then create a surplus... No. Let's keep doing the same thing each year and get that fiddle out whilst the place burns around us.. Because that works well doesnt it? Exactly. Promoters have been running a clown show for years and now it's finally started to catch up with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noaksey 350 Posted May 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Lefty said: Cheers. It was the Belle Vue preview having Justin Sedgmen (G) 7.11 that threw me! A guest assumes the average of the bloke he's replacing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pauldoveyspeedway 148 Posted May 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, noaksey said: A guest assumes the average of the bloke he's replacing Sedgy is riding well and its his former track .. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,077 Posted May 7, 2023 Another great day in BSPL shambles city. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 1,275 Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, noaksey said: A guest assumes the average of the bloke he's replacing Understand, but hasn't the SCB now downgraded Luke to 75% of that figure? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pauldoveyspeedway 148 Posted May 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Lefty said: Understand, but hasn't the SCB now downgraded Luke to 75% of that figure? 5.33 max for guest ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,706 Posted May 7, 2023 59 minutes ago, Lefty said: Understand, but hasn't the SCB now downgraded Luke to 75% of that figure? Irrelevant. For example a 8.40 rider can replace an 8.00 rider at home but he still, and always has, assumes the replaced riders average. 75% merely refers to the quality of the guest that can be used. So if Sedgmen were to be injured in his second ride Wolves could use Douglas and St Worrall as IRR for the last two programmed rides. Whoops, have I found another loophole? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,211 Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, mikebv said: Interesting article in the (excellent again), Speedway Star with the KL co promoter saying that with 7 teams there isnt enough riders.. What nonsense.. I would have said what a load of bollox! There's British riders sat on the sidelines without clubs to ride for... and that is a scandal! You only have to browse through some of the names competing in the Polish U24 league and it makes for very interesting viewing, the young Aussies seem to be giving Britain a swerve these days and a lot of the European talent are electing to ride in it instead of our lower leagues, or the upper one for that matter Edited May 7, 2023 by iainb 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pauldoveyspeedway 148 Posted May 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, arnieg said: Irrelevant. For example a 8.40 rider can replace an 8.00 rider at home but he still, and always has, assumes the replaced riders average. 75% merely refers to the quality of the guest that can be used. So if Sedgmen were to be injured in his second ride Wolves could use Douglas and St Worrall as IRR for the last two programmed rides. Whoops, have I found another loophole? I presume Wolves can still use S.Nicholls on a 5.28 ave as a guest.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfsbane 12,944 Posted May 7, 2023 'Vatcher, Vatcher, the guest snatcher'. (For those of a certain age). 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
truthsayer 234 Posted May 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, Wolfsbane said: (For those of a certain age). We're speedway fans. You could make a Harold Macmillan reference and we'd still be of THAT age. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmuncie 205 Posted May 7, 2023 Why wait till after the 28 days then moan? The situation hasn’t changed from the second Luke got injured till now. A short term injury replacement could have been signed (and I seem to remember Nicholls being announced as such before this was reversed) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noaksey 350 Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, gmuncie said: Why wait till after the 28 days then moan? The situation hasn’t changed from the second Luke got injured till now. A short term injury replacement could have been signed (and I seem to remember Nicholls being announced as such before this was reversed) Yes, Wolves announced Nicholls then apparently he was injured and was going to miss the Belle Vue matches so it was reversed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
