JCookie 753 Posted November 8, 2022 It's obviously not their fault, and it's sad circumstances, but only British Speedway could create a competition to celebrate a reigning monarch who then dies before it is eventually completed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, HGould said: Irrespective of the Clubs involved a complete and utter farce and more proof that none of the current sports top table are fit for purpose. Three Clubs qualified At least one of the three (the one without BSPL Director involved) at least had the balls and sense to say that they couldn't stage their Fixture. Ford and Bates now cobble together this shambolic joke and Godfrey and Louis are complicit in it. The sport is a laughing stock a FH complete joke. Never let the truth spoil an attempt at a conspiracy theory! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 1,268 Posted November 8, 2022 On 11/7/2022 at 4:19 PM, Arthur54 said: So if Lawson sign's for Leicester and Poole, then what Simples: Chris Harris guests for Lawson ... unless he's already guesting 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topaz325 1,859 Posted November 8, 2022 Just give it up, move on and plan next year's fixtures better, concentrate on the League fixtures first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc131 365 Posted November 8, 2022 23 minutes ago, topaz325 said: Just give it up, move on and plan next year's fixtures better, concentrate on the League fixtures first. Obviously that's far to easy, this season needs forgetting about as shambolic as the fixtures made it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,290 Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lefty said: Simples: Chris Harris guests for Lawson ... unless he's already guesting In the Speedway Star it states that Poole will be allowed to strengthen up as it is an "inter league" match now... It also quotes Danny Ford referencing the end of season issues and he says "I know a lot of people dont believe it, but there are a lot of smart promoters in the sport. We just need to get our heads together to really resolve this". I dont really think that the promoters have to be "too smart" to be honest given most of their issues are "bloody obvious mistakes", which even the most intellectually challenged promoter could surely spot the very moment they get suggested.. However, the likes of Ford, Louis, and Lemon, (and maybe some others?), do seem to have a fair idea on what the fans want, do appear to be "smart", and can see the negative impact such end of season nonsense has on the sports potential growth. Growth which they can see is certainly possible if the right decisions are made... You can only hope these promoters can influence the future rather than have what always seems to be a less capable "majority" always making the final decisions through sheer weight of numbers... NB. Another very good Speedway Star issue again by the way.. Edited November 8, 2022 by mikebv 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortythirtyeight 841 Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, mikebv said: In the Speedway Star it states that Poole will be allowed to strengthen up as it is an "inter league" match now... It also quotes Danny Ford referencing the end of season issues and he says "I know a lot of people dont believe it, but there are a lot of smart promoters in the sport. We just need to get our heads together to really resolve this". I dont really think that the promoters have to be "too smart" to be honest given most of their issues are "bloody obvious mistakes", which even the most intellectually challenged promoter could surely spot the very moment they get suggested.. However, the likes of Ford, Louis, and Lemon, (and maybe some others?), do seem to have a fair idea on what the fans want, do appear to be "smart", and can see the negative impact such end of season nonsense has on the sports potential growth. Growth which they can see is certainly possible if the right decisions are made... You can only hope these promoters can influence the future rather than have what always seems to be a less capable "majority" always making the final decisions through sheer weight of numbers... NB. Another very good Speedway Star issue again by the way.. You may wish to check how many of your astute three are actually on the top table committee and therefore already in a position to make sure the right decisions are made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,290 Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: You may wish to check how many of your astute three are actually on the top table committee and therefore already in a position to make sure the right decisions are made. But are they? Sheer weight of numbers will as always see 'what's best for the majority" winning the day... Even if it isnt "what's best for the sport"... As is often said.. Without that independent body, or even a none independent trusted chairperson or committee, given total autonomy, running the sport, there will always be issues.. Edited November 8, 2022 by mikebv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortythirtyeight 841 Posted November 8, 2022 57 minutes ago, mikebv said: But are they? Sheer weight of numbers will as always see 'what's best for the majority" winning the day... Even if it isnt "what's best for the sport"... As is often said.. Without that independent body, or even a none independent trusted chairperson or committee, given total autonomy, running the sport, there will always be issues.. Yes they are, the committee is small and they are on it . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byker Biker 472 Posted November 8, 2022 I am utterly dismayed that they honestly believe they can bring some credibilty to this competition by staging it with guests next year. Bury the problem now and don't drag the self humiliation into 2023. The fact that the decision makers are never accountable for their hapless decisions makes it easy for them to blame the weather, stadium owners, rider availability, (delete as appropriate). As a board of directors they don't even measure up to the village fete committee, I assume they all sit on the board the monkey effed the cat on not a limited company! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,298 Posted November 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Byker Biker said: I am utterly dismayed that they honestly believe they can bring some credibilty to this competition by staging it with guests next year. Bury the problem now and don't drag the self humiliation into 2023.... Holding over the completion of a competition to the following season is not without precedent. But completing a competition with only two out of the three finalists, with the two remaining teams operating in separate leagues looks like a bit of a nonsense. If Leicester and Poole, jointly, want to run an interleague challenge, with Poole running a guest or Leicester having somebody stepping down for the night, well fine. But please, let's give up on a competition that "died" some time ago. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted November 9, 2022 10 hours ago, mikebv said: In the Speedway Star it states that Poole will be allowed to strengthen up as it is an "inter league" match now... It also quotes Danny Ford referencing the end of season issues and he says "I know a lot of people dont believe it, but there are a lot of smart promoters in the sport. We just need to get our heads together to really resolve this". I dont really think that the promoters have to be "too smart" to be honest given most of their issues are "bloody obvious mistakes", which even the most intellectually challenged promoter could surely spot the very moment they get suggested.. However, the likes of Ford, Louis, and Lemon, (and maybe some others?), do seem to have a fair idea on what the fans want, do appear to be "smart", and can see the negative impact such end of season nonsense has on the sports potential growth. Growth which they can see is certainly possible if the right decisions are made... You can only hope these promoters can influence the future rather than have what always seems to be a less capable "majority" always making the final decisions through sheer weight of numbers... NB. Another very good Speedway Star issue again by the way.. Let's hope Danny Ford is made of more sincere stuff than his Dad then, Matt put Poole first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth etc etc, British Speedway was his very last thought! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,290 Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Trees said: Let's hope Danny Ford is made of more sincere stuff than his Dad then, Matt put Poole first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth etc etc, British Speedway was his very last thought! His teams regularly got me to attend when they were at Belle Vue... Not many other promoters' teams did the same... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,018 Posted November 9, 2022 13 hours ago, mikebv said: But are they? Sheer weight of numbers will as always see 'what's best for the majority" winning the day... Even if it isnt "what's best for the sport"... As is often said.. Without that independent body, or even a none independent trusted chairperson or committee, given total autonomy, running the sport, there will always be issues.. It doesn't really matter whether there's an independent body or not, if the organisation/administration isn't in place we end up with a totally chaotic season like we've just had. Danny Ford is right there are some good people involved in the sport they're just not being led properly with poor admin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, mikebv said: In the Speedway Star it states that Poole will be allowed to strengthen up as it is an "inter league" match now... It also quotes Danny Ford referencing the end of season issues and he says "I know a lot of people dont believe it, but there are a lot of smart promoters in the sport. We just need to get our heads together to really resolve this". I dont really think that the promoters have to be "too smart" to be honest given most of their issues are "bloody obvious mistakes", which even the most intellectually challenged promoter could surely spot the very moment they get suggested.. However, the likes of Ford, Louis, and Lemon, (and maybe some others?), do seem to have a fair idea on what the fans want, do appear to be "smart", and can see the negative impact such end of season nonsense has on the sports potential growth. Growth which they can see is certainly possible if the right decisions are made... You can only hope these promoters can influence the future rather than have what always seems to be a less capable "majority" always making the final decisions through sheer weight of numbers... NB. Another very good Speedway Star issue again by the way.. why will Poole be allowed to strengthen up when the top ! league riders are the same as the championship riders NUTS . Edited November 9, 2022 by jenga i dont need a reason ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
