IronScorpion 1,407 Posted August 24, 2023 26 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: Is what it is. Rules there to be taken advantage of not Glasgows fault the sport is run by idiots. Glasgow probably checked all was ok with their lawyers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,651 Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Here lies a question. Highly hypothetical but if there is a championship next season and tarasenko wants to ride in it for Glasgow. Will he still be on the 5 as not enough meetings for a real average or if close the loophole will he be on an assessed average based on prem? One would imagine that the rules (which haven't been written yet, so definitely hypothetical) would either be that his real average takes precedence or it is the higher of tye two so his Prem average would be the one to count. There are other possibilities, for example a weighted average: m x 1.3 x prem average + n x Champ ave -----‐------------‐--------------------------------------------- m + n Where m and n are the number of matches used in determining respective league's greensheets Edited August 24, 2023 by arnieg 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,407 Posted August 24, 2023 25 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Here lies a question. Highly hypothetical but if there is a championship next season and tarasenko wants to ride in it for Glasgow. Will he still be on the 5 as not enough meetings for a real average or if close the loophole will he be on an assessed average based on prem? Scott Nicholls wanted to ride in the Championship, got stopped, got lawyers in, then was accepted. Everyone saying that the rules are wrong, worded wrongly, loopholes galore but until a group is put together of ex promoters, managers, riders to make up an impartial committee with rules to suit then British Speedway will continue to struggle. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted August 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: Still time for Poole to react. (all in the best interest of the sport) We don’t need to. The Fords got their team building right from the start of the season and didn’t have to go around throwing a massive wad of cash at the death of the season to compete, like Belle Vue did last year with Lambert. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,651 Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: The problem is the rule as it based EVERY rider riding in all the leagues in Poland, Sweden & Denmark on the same average. Ekstraliga riders should be at least an 8. Yes as is obvious from Tarasenko (an Ekstraliga heatleader) and Wojdylo (a league one second string) the same average. It would be like giving Jye Etheridge and Brady Kurtz the same average. Edited August 24, 2023 by arnieg 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,260 Posted August 24, 2023 I don't think it should be when they sign but when their first meeting is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,784 Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: We don’t need to. The Fords got their team building right from the start of the season and didn’t have to go around throwing a massive wad of cash at the death of the season to compete, like Belle Vue did last year with Lambert. There was me thinking Robert replaced a rider who's season had been finished by injury. To be fair the rule which determines Tarasenko's average is complete bobbins. However the idea that Glasgow will now waltz to the title is daft, he will make them stronger but their shortcomings are still present. It now makes it a three horse race rather than two. And I'd be surprised if they've had to break the bank to get him to ride....he's over here with bikes and a workshop etc already, his racing abroad is now finished and he's probably grateful for the extra meetings. Edited August 24, 2023 by Bagpuss 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben91 1,743 Posted August 24, 2023 No issue with Glasgow making a signing the rules allow them to make but this is beyond the pale in terms of ridiculousness. The bloke has the same assessed average in both leagues. Stupid. British Speedway strikes again. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazc 7,101 Posted August 24, 2023 37 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: We don’t need to. The Fords got their team building right from the start of the season and didn’t have to go around throwing a massive wad of cash at the death of the season to compete, like Belle Vue did last year with Lambert. How much has it cost us ? Serious question. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapper 193 Posted August 24, 2023 A six pack of Irn bru (full sugar) 24 Carmel Wafers and a deep fried Mars Bar after every home meeting 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beirao 202 Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, IronScorpion said: It used to be GP riders not allowed in Div 2. When was that exactly? Presumably after Carl Stonehewer if at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cast1rn 464 Posted August 24, 2023 Does anyone think anything will change with the rulebook for 2024 with regards to averages ?? There's not enough Crayola pens or Crayons to fix the rulebook as it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,378 Posted August 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, snapper said: A six pack of Irn bru (full sugar) 24 Carmel Wafers and a deep fried Mars Bar after every home meeting You forgot the Scotch Pie,that’s why I turned them down.Reneged on the Pie.!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted August 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, snapper said: A six pack of Irn bru (full sugar) 24 Carmel Wafers and a deep fried Mars Bar after every home meeting Nee haggis??? 11 minutes ago, Cast1rn said: Does anyone think anything will change with the rulebook for 2024 with regards to averages ?? There's not enough Crayola pens or Crayons to fix the rulebook as it is. Please leave blank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac101 1,201 Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, snapper said: A six pack of Irn bru (full sugar) 24 Carmel Wafers and a deep fried Mars Bar after every home meeting don’t forget it was the full time spanner man that swung it for him lol Edited August 24, 2023 by mac101 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites