old bob at herne bay 828 Posted November 21, 2022 Until such time as we get riders coming into championship who aspire and are happy to ride as semi professional/ part time riders attached to just one club in the Championship then there will continue to be a rider shortage. Every rider interviewed in the Speedway Star from the raw rookie of 15 years old is now looking to be an SGP champion. if they cont make it in 3 years they retire from speedway and go grasstracking. Seem everyone now has to aspire to be a future SGP rider with a massive sponsored van, a team of mechanics, a stable of several bikes and unsurprisingly demand a pay packet to support all these overheads. Maybe this is a product of the drive to see every rider in the team to increase their CMA. having a steady second string in your team just isn't good enough anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*JJ 512 Posted November 22, 2022 11 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: Seem everyone now has to aspire to be a future SGP rider with a massive sponsored van, a team of mechanics, a stable of several bikes and unsurprisingly demand a pay packet to support all these overheads. Maybe this is a product of the drive to see every rider in the team to increase their CMA. having a steady second string in your team just isn't good enough anymore. Apparently, contracts - even in the NL - specify that a rider has to have two bikes and a van. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted November 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, *JJ said: Apparently, contracts - even in the NL - specify that a rider has to have two bikes and a van. Would be great to see some dad or grandad of a young rider turn up with a 2 bike Trailer or a Citroen Safari.... 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambo 1,341 Posted November 22, 2022 The Devil makes work for idle hands! My calculations of the 10/20 meeting GSA's. There are a couple of riders who appear twice, due to team changes, but I couldn't be arsed to sort out the latest team. Rider 10 20 20-10 Chris Harris 8.98 9.04 0.06 Leon Flint 7.18 6.86 -0.32 Ricky Wells 5.20 6.18 0.98 Jye Etheridge 6.29 5.93 -0.36 Theo Pijper 4.43 5.09 0.66 Jonas Knudsen 5.00 5.00 0.00 Nathan Stoneman 2.00 2.00 0.00 Ty Proctor 4.00 4.74 0.74 Kyle Bickley 2.93 3.32 0.39 Josh Auty 6.76 7.30 0.54 Claus Vissing 5.00 6.99 1.99 Justin Sedgmen 7.04 6.97 -0.07 Ashley Morris 4.93 5.11 0.18 Stefan Nielsen 4.94 4.56 -0.38 James Shanes 4.80 4.33 -0.47 James Pearson 4.00 2.48 -1.52 Adam Ellis 7.31 7.63 0.32 Sam Masters 10.58 9.87 -0.71 Josh Pickering 8.92 8.41 -0.51 Kye Thomson 6.60 6.62 0.02 Paco Castagna 4.93 5.41 0.48 James Sarjeant 3.68 3.70 0.02 Lasse Fredriksen 4.00 3.50 -0.50 Jacob Hook 4.00 2.78 -1.22 Craig Cook 8.45 8.90 0.45 Benjamin Basso 8.52 7.22 -1.30 Ulrich Ostergaard 6.45 7.03 0.58 Tom Brennan 6.88 6.78 -0.10 Danyon Hume 5.83 5.30 -0.53 Broc Nichol 5.95 5.16 -0.79 Connor Bailey 4.43 5.05 0.62 Nick Morris 10.13 8.95 -1.18 Richie Worrall 8.17 8.45 0.28 Kyle Howarth 8.57 8.08 -0.49 Max Clegg 5.36 5.33 -0.03 Dan Thompson 5.22 4.90 -0.32 Connor Mountain 4.84 4.78 -0.06 Joe Thompson 3.35 4.21 0.86 Anders Rowe 5.21 4.04 -1.17 Scott Nicholls 8.45 8.23 -0.22 Troy Batchelor 7.29 7.47 0.18 Aaron Summers 6.67 6.64 -0.03 Paul Starke 5.24 6.11 0.87 Jack Thomas 4.90 5.36 0.46 Dillon Ruml 5.47 4.64 -0.83 Cameron Heeps 4.33 4.36 0.03 Kyle Newman 4.40 4.75 0.35 Josh MacDonald 4.00 3.95 -0.05 Edward Kennett 8.62 8.62 0.00 Ben Barker 8.00 8.24 0.24 Michael Palm Toft 6.76 7.54 0.78 Hans Andersen 7.00 7.34 0.34 Ben Morley 5.07 4.26 -0.81 Connor Coles 2.00 2.00 0.00 Lee Complin 4.00 2.00 -2.00 Alfie Bowtell 4.39 4.67 0.28 Daniel Gilkes 4.67 4.30 -0.37 Henry Atkins 2.00 2.37 0.37 Harry McGurk 2.00 2.00 0.00 Richard Lawson 8.17 8.73 0.56 Steve Worrall 8.26 8.56 0.30 Danny King 8.26 8.43 0.17 Ben Cook 6.09 5.23 -0.86 Drew Kemp 5.33 5.13 -0.21 Zach Cook 4.92 4.93 0.01 Nathan Ablitt 2.00 2.00 0.00 Charles Wright 7.59 8.49 0.90 Lewis Kerr 7.92 7.92 0.00 Erik Riss 8.24 7.80 -0.44 Kyle Newman 4.40 4.89 0.49 Kasper Andersen 4.10 4.83 0.73 Jordan Jenkins 4.84 4.23 -0.61 Jason Edwards 3.90 3.85 -0.05 Adam Roynon 3.56 3.75 0.19 Kyle Bickley 2.93 3.26 0.33 Ryan Douglas 9.38 9.06 -0.32 Tero Aarnio 7.55 7.06 -0.49 Jake Allen 6.30 6.09 -0.21 Simon Lambert 5.33 5.31 -0.02 James Wright 5.65 5.22 -0.43 Anders Rowe 5.21 4.46 -0.75 Adam Roynon 3.56 3.57 0.01 Jordan Palin 4.78 5.08 0.30 Zaine Kennedy 4.27 4.92 0.65 Ryan Kinsley 2.13 2.74 0.61 Connor Coles 2.00 2.00 0.00 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,374 Posted November 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Gambo said: The Devil makes work for idle hands! My calculations of the 10/20 meeting GSA's. There are a couple of riders who appear twice, due to team changes, but I couldn't be arsed to sort out the latest team. Rider 10 20 20-10 Chris Harris 8.98 9.04 0.06 Leon Flint 7.18 6.86 -0.32 Ricky Wells 5.20 6.18 0.98 Jye Etheridge 6.29 5.93 -0.36 Theo Pijper 4.43 5.09 0.66 Jonas Knudsen 5.00 5.00 0.00 Nathan Stoneman 2.00 2.00 0.00 Ty Proctor 4.00 4.74 0.74 Kyle Bickley 2.93 3.32 0.39 Josh Auty 6.76 7.30 0.54 Claus Vissing 5.00 6.99 1.99 Justin Sedgmen 7.04 6.97 -0.07 Ashley Morris 4.93 5.11 0.18 Stefan Nielsen 4.94 4.56 -0.38 James Shanes 4.80 4.33 -0.47 James Pearson 4.00 2.48 -1.52 Adam Ellis 7.31 7.63 0.32 Sam Masters 10.58 9.87 -0.71 Josh Pickering 8.92 8.41 -0.51 Kye Thomson 6.60 6.62 0.02 Paco Castagna 4.93 5.41 0.48 James Sarjeant 3.68 3.70 0.02 Lasse Fredriksen 4.00 3.50 -0.50 Jacob Hook 4.00 2.78 -1.22 Craig Cook 8.45 8.90 0.45 Benjamin Basso 8.52 7.22 -1.30 Ulrich Ostergaard 6.45 7.03 0.58 Tom Brennan 6.88 6.78 -0.10 Danyon Hume 5.83 5.30 -0.53 Broc Nichol 5.95 5.16 -0.79 Connor Bailey 4.43 5.05 0.62 Nick Morris 10.13 8.95 -1.18 Richie Worrall 8.17 8.45 0.28 Kyle Howarth 8.57 8.08 -0.49 Max Clegg 5.36 5.33 -0.03 Dan Thompson 5.22 4.90 -0.32 Connor Mountain 4.84 4.78 -0.06 Joe Thompson 3.35 4.21 0.86 Anders Rowe 5.21 4.04 -1.17 Scott Nicholls 8.45 8.23 -0.22 Troy Batchelor 7.29 7.47 0.18 Aaron Summers 6.67 6.64 -0.03 Paul Starke 5.24 6.11 0.87 Jack Thomas 4.90 5.36 0.46 Dillon Ruml 5.47 4.64 -0.83 Cameron Heeps 4.33 4.36 0.03 Kyle Newman 4.40 4.75 0.35 Josh MacDonald 4.00 3.95 -0.05 Edward Kennett 8.62 8.62 0.00 Ben Barker 8.00 8.24 0.24 Michael Palm Toft 6.76 7.54 0.78 Hans Andersen 7.00 7.34 0.34 Ben Morley 5.07 4.26 -0.81 Connor Coles 2.00 2.00 0.00 Lee Complin 4.00 2.00 -2.00 Alfie Bowtell 4.39 4.67 0.28 Daniel Gilkes 4.67 4.30 -0.37 Henry Atkins 2.00 2.37 0.37 Harry McGurk 2.00 2.00 0.00 Richard Lawson 8.17 8.73 0.56 Steve Worrall 8.26 8.56 0.30 Danny King 8.26 8.43 0.17 Ben Cook 6.09 5.23 -0.86 Drew Kemp 5.33 5.13 -0.21 Zach Cook 4.92 4.93 0.01 Nathan Ablitt 2.00 2.00 0.00 Charles Wright 7.59 8.49 0.90 Lewis Kerr 7.92 7.92 0.00 Erik Riss 8.24 7.80 -0.44 Kyle Newman 4.40 4.89 0.49 Kasper Andersen 4.10 4.83 0.73 Jordan Jenkins 4.84 4.23 -0.61 Jason Edwards 3.90 3.85 -0.05 Adam Roynon 3.56 3.75 0.19 Kyle Bickley 2.93 3.26 0.33 Ryan Douglas 9.38 9.06 -0.32 Tero Aarnio 7.55 7.06 -0.49 Jake Allen 6.30 6.09 -0.21 Simon Lambert 5.33 5.31 -0.02 James Wright 5.65 5.22 -0.43 Anders Rowe 5.21 4.46 -0.75 Adam Roynon 3.56 3.57 0.01 Jordan Palin 4.78 5.08 0.30 Zaine Kennedy 4.27 4.92 0.65 Ryan Kinsley 2.13 2.74 0.61 Connor Coles 2.00 2.00 0.00 Vissing stands out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M.D 463 Posted November 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Vissing stands out! Eddie Kennett stands out but you wouldn't use him either 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted November 22, 2022 57 minutes ago, M.D said: Eddie Kennett stands out but you wouldn't use him either Even if it was his last 10 laps rather than 10 meetings!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCookie 753 Posted November 22, 2022 Frightening consistency from Eddie. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,374 Posted November 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Even if it was his last 10 laps rather than 10 meetings!! If Vissing is at Glasgow I’m positive he will improve his average. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazc 7,098 Posted November 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Fromafar said: If Vissing is at Glasgow I’m positive he will improve his average. Totally agree, think he is nailed on for a return to the Stripes. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*JJ 512 Posted November 23, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 10:07 AM, HGould said: Would be great to see some dad or grandad of a young rider turn up with a 2 bike Trailer or a Citroen Safari.... Been there, done that, although it was MDL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zander 4 Posted November 30, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 1:24 PM, torpointfanatic22 said: You've got to laugh at the KO cup draw. Plymouth v Poole again. As if that wasn't pre-agreed. This sport is an utter joke to be honest and I feel for supporters who genuinely care about their clubs. A reduction in the points limit, a reduction in home meaningful matches and the saviour being the aggregate bonus point. Seriously!!?? Year after year the useless powers at be avoid the key issues and they continue to dodge the elephant in the room that is; the sport is dying in this country and radical changes need to be made. I couldn't agree more things need doing differently think outside the box the ppl in charge are clueless.. who's bright idea was it to lower the points limit & then clubs will be charging more for admission next Yr...insane stuff plz whoever you are turn off the lights & just go away now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiveusaB 1,145 Posted December 6, 2022 Adam Ellis @ 7.13 (rounded up ) must be a serious contender for a Team spot at some club (may be Poole?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cast1rn 464 Posted December 10, 2022 Just wondering if the desired effect of lowering the team building average has been achieved, because I don’t see a single number 1 from last season not riding in the championship again. That is if the goal was to increase the Gap between championship and premiership teams. Sam masters and Nick Morris are retained with over 10 point averages. All that teams seem to have done is reduce the experience in the Reserves to maintain the big hitters from last year. it’s the high four and five pointers that seem to be team less at the moment, Ruhml,Broc,Connor,Morley,Dan Thomson………. Is this a good thing? Are the two pointer reserves getting flung in at the deep end? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,042 Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Cast1rn said: Just wondering if the desired effect of lowering the team building average has been achieved, because I don’t see a single number 1 from last season not riding in the championship again. That is if the goal was to increase the Gap between championship and premiership teams. Sam masters and Nick Morris are retained with over 10 point averages. All that teams seem to have done is reduce the experience in the Reserves to maintain the big hitters from last year. it’s the high four and five pointers that seem to be team less at the moment, Ruhml,Broc,Connor,Morley,Dan Thomson………. Is this a good thing? Are the two pointer reserves getting flung in at the deep end? In an ideal world the top 6 or 7 riders from last year would have left the Champ & just done Prem with Poland / Sweden. That would have lowered costs with the highest earners missing out. Also should've made the standard of top & bottom Champ riders closer together for better racing. As what always happend though, top riders are retained, 2.00 reserves added in, 4/5 point riders miss out & the gulf between the strongest & weakest in the Champ gets larger! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
