1Tsunami 33 Posted October 18, 2023 23 hours ago, mikebv said: I would suggest not much visually given such a short amount of time in the role.. Hopefully now he has had some time to review what goes on, and the huge potential that the current operating model delivers, he will he able to influence the required change to move the sport forward.. Obviously you are good at making statements,, but not very good at observation and others comments. Phil has full control on meetings and has got them running quicker which is a main complaint about many promotions. You should have watched the TV broadcast of the Cardiff GP to see how much he physically put into the running to keep the momentum which pleased the fans in the stadium and at home. Even the riders and their staff are aware now of their obligation to not be a cause of gaps in the meeting presentation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,350 Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, 1Tsunami said: Obviously you are good at making statements,, but not very good at observation and others comments. Phil has full control on meetings and has got them running quicker which is a main complaint about many promotions. You should have watched the TV broadcast of the Cardiff GP to see how much he physically put into the running to keep the momentum which pleased the fans in the stadium and at home. Even the riders and their staff are aware now of their obligation to not be a cause of gaps in the meeting presentation. His remit for the CEO of UK Speedway is somewhat different... CEO's are not production floor managers, which is what you are describing... Hopefully he has had a year to grow into the CEO role, and, behind the scenes, started to move the sport forward... And his ideas will come to fruition this season... "Getting meetings done quicker" is so low level it is beyond even judging as the only ones who complain are, by definition, there in attendance. Its the "followers" not there that need to be "listened to" the most, as they will outnumber those who do attend quite considerably... Let's hope he gets the remit, and the opportunity and support, to implement the radical changes so desperately needed, and the many thousands who still follow the sport closely, but don't attend/infrequently attend, UK Speedway, are attracted back more regularly... Edit. And the GPs are driven by "satellite time" which means any over run and more costs, hence all through the decades of racing the vast majority are, and have been, completed to time. Ole Olsen was a particular stickler for it given the potential costs involved.. Edited October 19, 2023 by mikebv 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,658 Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) On 10/19/2023 at 3:06 AM, mikebv said: His remit for the CEO of UK Speedway is somewhat different... CEO's are not production floor managers, which is what you are describing... Hopefully he has had a year to grow into the CEO role, and, behind the scenes, started to move the sport forward... And his ideas will come to fruition this season... "Getting meetings done quicker" is so low level it is beyond even judging as the only ones who complain are, by definition, there in attendance. Its the "followers" not there that need to be "listened to" the most, as they will outnumber those who do attend quite considerably... Let's hope he gets the remit, and the opportunity and support, to implement the radical changes so desperately needed, and the many thousands who still follow the sport closely, but don't attend/infrequently attend, UK Speedway, are attracted back more regularly... Edit. And the GPs are driven by "satellite time" which means any over run and more costs, hence all through the decades of racing the vast majority are, and have been, completed to time. Ole Olsen was a particular stickler for it given the potential costs involved.. Surely his 'brief' is only for Premiership speedway, primarily for how it presents on TV. Edited October 23, 2023 by Skidder1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,350 Posted October 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Surely his 'brief' is only foir Premiership speedway, primarily for how it presents on TV. If it is so, then that is still a HUGE role given whatever is shown is the window into the whole UK sport for everyone watching at home... Seeing Bomber for example, meeting after meeting, riding for all and sundry, (and even sometimes for his own team,) is hopefully something that Phil will focus on and eradicate as part of a much larger radical move forward for the sport... The TV meetings sell the sport and it finally looks like the penny has dropped, with crowd levels at these events basically being the barometer of what success, or not, that the sport has, so hopefully more planning will be put into them to engage a large turn out and reflect positively into the living rooms of those watching.. Mickey Mouse rules obviously will undo any amount of other growth ideas so let's hope Phil keeps them away from Speedway, so as they dont undermine the sport like they have done so badly over the years... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerM22 95 Posted October 19, 2023 22 hours ago, 1Tsunami said: Obviously you are good at making statements,, but not very good at observation and others comments. Phil has full control on meetings and has got them running quicker which is a main complaint about many promotions. You should have watched the TV broadcast of the Cardiff GP to see how much he physically put into the running to keep the momentum which pleased the fans in the stadium and at home. Even the riders and their staff are aware now of their obligation to not be a cause of gaps in the meeting presentation. So he runs around a lot and makes sure everyone knows they have 2 minutes. I wish I could get a CEO job like that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1Tsunami 33 Posted October 19, 2023 2 hours ago, RogerM22 said: So he runs around a lot and makes sure everyone knows they have 2 minutes. I wish I could get a CEO job like that. Oh Dear. Nobody said it was his only job, but the effect of hurrying the meetings up with no gaps in the meeting has been commented on regularly during broadcasts of meetings with statements like it was time the useless gaps were eradicated for the public. Get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,217 Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/19/2023 at 9:50 PM, 1Tsunami said: Oh Dear. Nobody said it was his only job, but the effect of hurrying the meetings up with no gaps in the meeting has been commented on regularly during broadcasts of meetings with statements like it was time the useless gaps were eradicated for the public. Get it. In the meetings broadcasted on TV everyone knows that they never start at 7:30 and there are useless gaps for adverts and for showing the other meeting that evening, so not sure what he can do to improve that for the people actually watching the meeting live Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JanAndersen 823 Posted October 22, 2023 On 10/19/2023 at 7:44 PM, RogerM22 said: So he runs around a lot and makes sure everyone knows they have 2 minutes. I wish I could get a CEO job like that. Absolutely loves being the centre of attention. Often no need for it either. How oh how did riders know there was 2 mins before some muppet in a headset bustled into their pit bay to say?…… 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old bob at herne bay 828 Posted November 4, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 9:47 PM, JanAndersen said: Absolutely loves being the centre of attention. Often no need for it either. How oh how did riders know there was 2 mins before some muppet in a headset bustled into their pit bay to say?…… Judging by the shyness of most riders to get out of the pits and onto the track for their next race ...... they need someone shouting in their face to get a move on. Classic example was in the p off final this season at Glasgow .... dozy Poole rider got himself excluded on 2 mins ...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,115 Posted April 30 (edited) First TV match of the season last night and a couple of things occurred to me... 1. Has anything been done for those attending the Speedway meeting live to while away the long delays while Eurosport are away at advert breaks and doing interviews? This really needs addressing for the paying punter on the night. 2. Eurosport do like to pan in on the team managers during a meeting and I've got to say when they do I often cringe at the sight of the people stood around them it doesn't look very professional at all. A collection of people of all ages from school kids to pensioners wearing a variety of different clothing, compare this to a football managers bench, team wear and branding should be compulsory for all people in the pits and there should also be a minimum age limit. Coventry were doing this years ago! Edited April 30 by iainb 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,307 Posted April 30 I think there is one aspect to this that I agree with. That being that the wider fan base don't fully understand Phil's remit, his job description. Having listened to Phil, at length, at a recent Nuneaton Speedway Supporters Club meeting I think this is a bit chicken and egg. His role is evolving. The very visible bit on TV is but a small part of his job. The recent press day, the adoption of the 2 minute rule, the abolition of the silly guesting "anomaly" in the play offs last year, are but some examples of aspects of the sport that Phil has been instrumental in bringing about. My sense when listening to Phil was that he was well in tune with the average fan and has a clear vision of how to raise the sport's profile, how to mobilise the PR machine, bring in high level sponsorship etc. Look, there has been a consistent complaint from us fans for years that we need independent control. Phil is not that, yet. But it is a step in the right direction and, in my opinion, we can expect more developments to rescue our sport and help to make it thrive again. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,350 Posted April 30 6 minutes ago, False dawn said: I think there is one aspect to this that I agree with. That being that the wider fan base don't fully understand Phil's remit, his job description. Having listened to Phil, at length, at a recent Nuneaton Speedway Supporters Club meeting I think this is a bit chicken and egg. His role is evolving. The very visible bit on TV is but a small part of his job. The recent press day, the adoption of the 2 minute rule, the abolition of the silly guesting "anomaly" in the play offs last year, are but some examples of aspects of the sport that Phil has been instrumental in bringing about. My sense when listening to Phil was that he was well in tune with the average fan and has a clear vision of how to raise the sport's profile, how to mobilise the PR machine, bring in high level sponsorship etc. Look, there has been a consistent complaint from us fans for years that we need independent control. Phil is not that, yet. But it is a step in the right direction and, in my opinion, we can expect more developments to rescue our sport and help to make it thrive again. He must "bite his tongue" so many times when listening to some promoters discuss the sport in meetings... Playing the long game I would suggest, slowly ensuring enough support from the modern thinkers to progress the sport forward, and make it credible enough to bring in some big sponsorship... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
midlandred 207 Posted April 30 Anybody know what the start marshal at Perry Barr last night was wearing from the waist down??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W9 Lion 227 Posted April 30 I to attended the NSSC function he spoke at and was impressed with his thoughts on the sport and how it should develop. I have also worked the Cardiff SGP in the past so see what he does there to ensure that everyone knows their job and the best way to do it. Finally he has been helpful providing a better image for the sport which in time will help attract more and better sponsors. I just hope that all the Promoters buy into his vision. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,658 Posted April 30 Just for clarification - isn't Phil Morris just CEO of Premiership Speedway? rather than all UK speedway? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites