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Poole v Oxford 9/8/23 Championship

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1 minute ago, Sir Sidney said:

I was one of those neutrals and I concur. Racing very poor 

I think the total pass count not including engine failures was three, Anders heat two, and Cook heat 14. Oh and Anders passed his own team mate so maybe 4.

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5 minutes ago, Cast1rn said:

I think the total pass count not including engine failures was three, Anders heat two, and Cook heat 14. Oh and Anders passed his own team mate so maybe 4.

Was very processional and spread out. Only fight for BP made it interesting. Maybe it just too smooth now idk. 

This season is a total borefest though tbh.

And also some fans not behaving it seems. 

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45 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

 

And also some fans not behaving it seems. 

What's this on the socials? "Allegedly Poole fans throwing rocks at away fan supporters.

Surely can't be true.

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1 hour ago, Cast1rn said:

What's this on the socials? "Allegedly Poole fans throwing rocks at away fan supporters.

Surely can't be true.

Well... They did say Jehovah :D

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7 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

Pretty fair result all things considered. Both sides had some misfortune and some good performances. Track was in good shape according to the riders. Shamexaboutvthe bonus point but there it is. I doubt Pirates will lose by 14 away again. Oxford may well finish top but in this season's format I don't think it's too relevant as nobody will want to have Poole in their 3-team group.

Not sure Oxford will finish top now to be honest. If Oxford and Poole both win all their home meetings, it will come down to if Oxford can get away wins at Edinburgh and Glasgow, and if Poole can win away at Edinburgh and Scunthorpe. If Poole win both away matches (which is entirely possibly), it means Oxford would have to win both of theirs - and not sure they will at Glasgow. Therefore the final points totals could be Poole 35 and Oxford 34. Of course the good old super heat could add some confusion into the mix.

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9 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

It certainly was and we were never going to get away with that in a month of Sundays. :) Ref was bound to award it. Lawson wasn’t close enough.

Not a great deal of passing but kept tense for the bonus point, which went down to the wire due to Pirates dreadful performance at Cowley and a few incidents in tonight’s meeting.

Ben Cooks EF when leading cost us the bonus but Scott Nicholls had bike problems. The roller in heat 13 for Masters was let go by the trainee ref, which the who grandstand saw. Sod’s Law as in the first running Poole were on a 5-1 out of the second bend when Nicholls fell. Never the same result in a rerun.

A huge crowd there tonight showing Poole’s pulling power. Someone said there was only one turnstile? There are 6 in total to enter the stadium, all open.

Masters and Nicholls showing their liking for Wimborne Road. But Oxford are a two man team and were easily beaten tonight. And Heeps will be back in the team come the playoffs meaning Atkins and Killeen at reserve.

But congrats to Oxford in the bonus. Went to fine margins.

Really disagree with your two man team assessment, like said elsewhere Kerr is averaging over 8 and Atkins was scoring well at reserve .Jordan Jenkins has been very solid no less than Anders Rowe for Poole plus Heeps was solid enough at 2 previously this season. I would say Killeen is going to remain carried but no different to Ablitt for Pirates last season, Oxford are a good solid side who as a unit score solidly at most away tracks. 

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7 hours ago, Cast1rn said:

What's this on the socials? "Allegedly Poole fans throwing rocks at away fan supporters.

Surely can't be true.

Apparently someone on 1st and 2nd bend, throwing stones at away fans kids. I heard the dad swearing at someone about it on the way to the exit. 

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Kerr not 100% fit, bad start for Scott, good bonus for Oxford too thieve really. 

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Another fantastic win by the Pirates this time over table topping Cheetahs.

The win was NID but the bonus point......what a valiant effort by the Boyzzzzz being 16pts up on 4 occasions only to av it snatched away in a last heat decider. 

Poor old Ben in heat 9 with an ef when leading Nicholls & Masters turned out to be a crucial blow when it came to the bonus point. Luck came our way though with Nicholls early engine troubles.

Special mention to Nathan Ablitt.......well done lad you are on the way after your apprenticeship last season as a Pirate. The confidence in your riding is there for all to see and you took a well deserved lap of honour after heat 2. You've come a long way and you will go a lot further in your career.

C'mon the Boyzzzzz :t:

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9 hours ago, Arthur54 said:

You obviously watched it then, no blue groove or dust then 

No, didn’t watch it. Just reading through the comments. Keep paying your money.

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12 hours ago, Tosh1218 said:

Don’t know why there well supported as usually the actual racing at Poole is poor compared to places like Glasgow ,Redcar and Scunthorpe proper race tracks were out of the gate first doesn’t guarantee  a win and 3 pts 

It's because Poole understand that speedway is a team sport and winning is important.

People who say that speedway should be about the excitement of 4 people riding bikes with no brakes and it's all about the quality of racing are missing the point.

Yes, people like to see good racing, but what gets people through the turnstiles is having a winning team, and Poole strive to get one every year whichever league they are in. It's the reason so many people like to slag them off, and also the reason why their own fans continue to support them.

Plus, winning teams create an atmosphere, and a good atmosphere encourages people to come back. A plethora of old folk sat in deckchairs, quietly filling in programmes and counting marking the number of passes on a sheet of paper doesn't.

They also ride in a decent stadium and know how to promote the sport. If more clubs were run like Poole, the sport would be in a much healthier situation.

On the subject of last night's match, I'm generally not really a fan of the bonus point and prefer the old system where points were awarded for getting within 6 points, but there's no denying that the aggregate bonus point was what kept it interesting on this occasion.

Good to see Anders Rowe going so well.

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1 minute ago, Grachan said:

It's because Poole understand that speedway is a team sport and winning is important.

People who say that speedway should be about the excitement of 4 people riding bikes with no brakes and it's all about the quality of racing are missing the point.

Yes, people like to see good racing, but what gets people through the turnstiles is having a winning team, and Poole strive to get one every year whichever league they are in. It's the reason so many people like to slag them off, and also the reason why their own fans continue to support them.

Plus, winning teams create an atmosphere, and a good atmosphere encourages people to come back. A plethora of old folk sat in deckchairs, quietly filling in programmes and counting marking the number of passes on a sheet of paper doesn't.

They also ride in a decent stadium and know how to promote the sport. If more clubs were run like Poole, the sport would be in a much healthier situation.

On the subject of last night's match, I'm generally not really a fan of the bonus point and prefer the old system where points were awarded for getting within 6 points, but there's no denying that the aggregate bonus point was what kept it interesting on this occasion.

Good to see Anders Rowe going so well.

Spot on post. Thank you!:t:

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Oh dear. Looks like the TV cameras caught another poor meeting at Poole when all the others have passing galore :rolleyes:. To quote a shovlar "yeah right"

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8 minutes ago, Grachan said:

It's because Poole understand that speedway is a team sport and winning is important.

People who say that speedway should be about the excitement of 4 people riding bikes with no brakes and it's all about the quality of racing are missing the point.

Yes, people like to see good racing, but what gets people through the turnstiles is having a winning team, and Poole strive to get one every year whichever league they are in. It's the reason so many people like to slag them off, and also the reason why their own fans continue to support them.

Plus, winning teams create an atmosphere, and a good atmosphere encourages people to come back. A plethora of old folk sat in deckchairs, quietly filling in programmes and counting marking the number of passes on a sheet of paper doesn't.

They also ride in a decent stadium and know how to promote the sport. If more clubs were run like Poole, the sport would be in a much healthier situation.

On the subject of last night's match, I'm generally not really a fan of the bonus point and prefer the old system where points were awarded for getting within 6 points, but there's no denying that the aggregate bonus point was what kept it interesting on this occasion.

Good to see Anders Rowe going so well.

I think this hits the nail on the head. I suspect the owners prefer pounds in the bank to passes on the track and the fans preference is for points on the board. One of my first meetings there was vs Swindon when Leigh Adams was their number one and every heat was effectively over by the second bend on the first lap - but the packed crowd were ecstatic with the overall win. 
It still has to be close to the best attended track, possibly being beaten by Oxford, so the business model is successful and sustainable, and also Poole is the most successful team in terms of league positions and cup wins this century.

The snippy comments of supporters of others tracks, and none, just makes it all the better if you’re a Poole supporter. There’s nothing better than beating a bad loser. Mind you, a few Poole supporters - and we all know who they are - go over the top in winding up the rivals, but then some of the anti-Poole brigade follow suit. And although the exchanges might rile some people (on both sides) that has to be healthy for the business and survival of speedway

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