mikebv 10,292 Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, keepturningleft said: The powers that be must take some action against Woffinden - he must not be allowed to get away with what he said to a packed stadium that included many youngsters. From the John McEnroe school of yob behaviour, this fading nonentity is desperately trying to keep himself relevant by being controversial. At 33 and clearly being now being quite accident prone, his career at the top is finished. I remember him a few years ago when standing of the podium spitting, as a National anthem was being played. Can you imagine Mauger, Collins, Briggs Nielsen, Gundersen etc doing that? He is an embarrassment to the sport. To be fair, those who you mention, especially the first 3, had a much wider public profile which was much larger than Tai's was, is, and ever will be... His racing level now is dropping so fast that maybe he feels he needs to be "street" to remain in the public eye..? But. At 33 it does look a little sad to be honest to try and come across as "hardcore yoof".... Maybe he could do some of that great music he does about it? My 20 year old lad, who has always been a huge fan of Tai given his success coincided with my lads formative Speedway watching years, summed it up quite elequontly when he said... "What a f***ing knob, how old is he?"... Edited October 6, 2023 by mikebv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dog 413 Posted October 6, 2023 Sadly, the bigger picture to the BSPL will be that it was a classic season. Underdogs reach the final, a huge comeback by Sheffield that went down to the wire. Regardless of Lambert coming in for the final, they will see it that GP riders want to be involved in British Speedway. By bringing Birmingham in to replace Wolves gives the league credibility again in their eyes, despite Brummies not being there on any sort of merit but having spent the last 5yrs flirting with the wooden spoon and survival! But still the BSPL think everything is rosy in the garden.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tyler42 150 Posted October 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Goldhawk said: Robert is a credit to sport and at this time GB'S BEST RIDER. He expressed rightly his views on track and referee decisions Tuesday which were poor to say the least. Debatable, Bewley only finished a few pts behind him in the GP's and if we take their Poish averages (supposed to be the best league in the world) Lambert is 19th whereas Bewley is 9th!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,784 Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Tbf what does anyone expect it is Rob Lambert and Tai we are doing about. They have never been nice have they? Hopefully they be kept out of British Speedway for the rest of their career, won't hold my breath though. Do you mean Phil Morris? Nick is serving a ban of his own! Classic BSF overreaction. Why would the authorities exclude two world class riders who put bums on seats? Presumably you felt the same about Darcy when he was up to all sorts of things as a Poole rider All a storm in a teacup. Neither rider probably should have said what they did (particularly Tai) but let's be sensible. Edited October 6, 2023 by Bagpuss 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,784 Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, tyler42 said: Debatable, Bewley only finished a few pts behind him in the GP's and if we take their Poish averages (supposed to be the best league in the world) Lambert is 19th whereas Bewley is 9th!! I think the only way they can be judged head to head is in the GP's, there was very little between them but Robert has finished above Dan both times. I get what you are saying about averages but Bewley finished below several riders in the British averages who he is far better than. Edited October 6, 2023 by Bagpuss 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted October 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I think the only way they can be judged head to head is in the GP's, there was very little between them but Robert has finished above Dan both times. I get what you are saying about averages bit Bewley finished below several riders in the British averages who he is far better than. Lambert only 19th thats not great, personally I believe Lambert is as good as he will ever be, Bewley has potential to be world champion 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeneralMelchett 482 Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Lambert only 19th thats not great, personally I believe Lambert is as good as he will ever be, Bewley has potential to be world champion I am going to stick up for Lambert a bit - I recall seeing him ride at Owlerton in 2016 or so when in his debut season for Newcastle - you could tell he would be a star and let’s be clear he is - which is why his sourly interview on Tuesday was in my view beneath a great rider - he was a bad interviewee for sure! his trajectory up has been quick he just needs perhaps a bit of humility and to learn that skill of speaking your mind with greater tact and diplomacy winning and losing with magnanimity Edited October 6, 2023 by GeneralMelchett 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,287 Posted October 6, 2023 6 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Tbf what does anyone expect it is Rob Lambert and Tai we are doing about. They have never been nice have they? Hopefully they be kept out of British Speedway for the rest of their career, won't hold my breath though. Do you mean Phil Morris? Nick is serving a ban of his own! Blimey Lisa . What about Chris Holder then. Did much worse when he was at Lynn, than Lambo's comments about the ref/Ippo track... Oh and Mr Holder said "You cant race on that" 2 weeks ago in an interview at Foxhall when asked about the track . Oh and Mr Ward wasn't snow white either if my memory serves me right Oh i saw these, and thought of you Tai is a lot worse than Robert in my book. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AceBelle 43 Posted October 6, 2023 46 minutes ago, tyler42 said: Debatable, Bewley only finished a few pts behind him in the GP's and if we take their Poish averages (supposed to be the best league in the world) Lambert is 19th whereas Bewley is 9th!! bewley also won a GP this sesaon 3 in total Lambert zero GP wins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AceBelle 43 Posted October 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I think the only way they can be judged head to head is in the GP's, there was very little between them but Robert has finished above Dan both times. I get what you are saying about averages bit Bewley finished below several riders in the British averages who he is far better than. Bewely 3 GP wins Lambert zero GP wins think those are classed as head to head 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,260 Posted October 6, 2023 33 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I think the only way they can be judged head to head is in the GP's, there was very little between them but Robert has finished above Dan both times. I get what you are saying about averages bit Bewley finished below several riders in the British averages who he is far better than. So, clearly he isn't then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ytsejam 312 Posted October 6, 2023 5 hours ago, tellboy said: I agree re Woffinden.He could have said the same comments but just remove the F word and it would have been funny.Lambert was interviewed while the adrenalin was still pumping and things then can come out skewed. The thing that is getting me a bit though is people saying they are immature,embarrassing,thick etc.And yet most of the posters who post these are posting immature and embarrassing remarks themselves.It's like pot,kettle,black. For instance your post calling them as such,yet look at your immature remark calling Woffinden a tattoed gibbon. I ain't a so called PROFESSIONAL sportsman who is supposed to be a role model to youngsters and my words weren't on live TV either!!.... Next please, try harder!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted October 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: So, clearly he isn't then. Painful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,784 Posted October 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, AceBelle said: bewley also won a GP this sesaon 3 in total Lambert zero GP wins 13 minutes ago, AceBelle said: Bewely 3 GP wins Lambert zero GP wins think those are classed as head to head That's great but points across the whole season is more accurate, if anything it highlights Bewleys inconsistency. If you wanted to go micro with the head to head we could refer to heat 18 last Saturday TBH it seems a bit churlish to be arguing about who is better than who, they are both great talents and most importantly British. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E I Addio 15,845 Posted October 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Lambert only 19th thats not great, personally I believe Lambert is as good as he will ever be, Bewley has potential to be world champion Bewley is a great sportsman and a credit to any sport. Speedway is lucky to have him. Lambert is a spoilt brat, always was, always will be . If you hear or see his parents behaviour, especially his mother, you will see why he is the way he is. Tai is is own worst enemy. On a personal basis he can be very polite. It’s just a pity that he doesn’t know how to project himself to a wider audience at times. Tai and Lambert are professional entertainers. If the fans don’t come they, and others will be out of a job. Both are old enough to know how to behave in public. They will probably never learn now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites