Lioness 1,455 Posted April 7 10 hours ago, BanditsFan said: Don’t exactly see what is wrong? At the age of 39 do you really think it is the first time Lee is ‘on the sniff?’ I know for a fact it isn’t. That is why Glasgow won the league last season. FACT. You do realise that just because it’s an internet forum and you are using a Nick name, it doesn’t mean you can’t be sued for slander? I can’t comment on the actual test speedway does trackside as these tests differ but from my pharmacy experience for those thinking ‘oh a list is issued of banned substances’ it’s not really as simple as that. Medication can have things in it that you don’t expect - that’s how Alain Baxter lost his Olympics medal, he took a sniff of Vicks. some assume OTC meds are ok but that’s not the case - many common meds such as hay fever relief tablets can’t be used as it would make you fail the drug test. All that is before taking into account that two medications taken together can heighten the strength and effect of a drug - that’s why people used to take the OTC Co codamol with full strength Coca Cola. It is a minefield and from the basic information we have then it is probably best to wait for the lab results and comments before judging an individual. Even then though Bandits Fan, it’s wise not to open yourself up to slander accusations with random accusations Just my opinions obviously 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,382 Posted April 7 While the Complin issue put a it of dampener on it for Tigers fans it was a decent match and bit of tension in the later stages,very enjoyable.IMO. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BacktrackBandit 80 Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, Lioness said: You do realise that just because it’s an internet forum and you are using a Nick name, it doesn’t mean you can’t be sued for slander? I can’t comment on the actual test speedway does trackside as these tests differ but from my pharmacy experience for those thinking ‘oh a list is issued of banned substances’ it’s not really as simple as that. Medication can have things in it that you don’t expect - that’s how Alain Baxter lost his Olympics medal, he took a sniff of Vicks. some assume OTC meds are ok but that’s not the case - many common meds such as hay fever relief tablets can’t be used as it would make you fail the drug test. All that is before taking into account that two medications taken together can heighten the strength and effect of a drug - that’s why people used to take the OTC Co codamol with full strength Coca Cola. It is a minefield and from the basic information we have then it is probably best to wait for the lab results and comments before judging an individual. Even then though Bandits Fan, it’s wise not to open yourself up to slander accusations with random accusations Just my opinions obviously It’s common knowledge, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BacktrackBandit 80 Posted April 7 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BanditsFan said: It’s common knowledge, no? Hope it’s no true as I really like Complin as a rider but from what everyone who was at the meeting last night was saying, it seems like this is going to end only one way. Will be the first to hold my hands up if I’m wrong Edited April 7 by BanditsFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaizer 2,865 Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, BanditsFan said: Hope it’s no true as I really like Complin as a rider but from what everyone who was at the meeting last night was saying, it seems like this is going to end only one way. Will be the first to hold my hands up if I’m wrong That's a fair bit of backtracking from your comment last night...FACT 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BacktrackBandit 80 Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, Jaizer said: That's a fair bit of backtracking from your comment last night...FACT Wait and see… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cast1rn 464 Posted April 7 6 minutes ago, Jaizer said: That's a fair bit of backtracking from your comment last night...FACT That's the biggest 180, I've ever seen online, doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out who eachother is. I know who forum members are they know who members are, the forum members they know they then know who members are and Boom you've been identified. Always better to keep schtum on scenarios like this until it's out in black and white, which should be in a few days. Then you can blast away or if the alternative result comes up you won't look silly. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSC67 1,465 Posted April 7 16 minutes ago, BanditsFan said: Hope it’s no true as I really like Complin as a rider but from what everyone who was at the meeting last night was saying, it seems like this is going to end only one way. Will be the first to hold my hands up if I’m wrong Is that the sound of a reversing alarm I hear, with a u-turn like that you should be a politician, or maybe it was just a fishing trip looking for a few bites , if it was looks like you were successful 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bandit59 1,151 Posted April 7 21 minutes ago, DSC67 said: Is that the sound of a reversing alarm I hear, with a u-turn like that you should be a politician, or maybe it was just a fishing trip looking for a few bites , if it was looks like you were successful Beep beep beep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lioness 1,455 Posted April 7 54 minutes ago, BanditsFan said: It’s common knowledge, no? Obviously not. That’s fine though, if you don’t want to take a piece of friendly advice that’s fine, your decision . It might be prudent to check your proof is fail safe just in case 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SharpenRake 1,505 Posted April 7 40 minutes ago, Lioness said: You do realise that just because it’s an internet forum and you are using a Nick name, it doesn’t mean you can’t be sued for slander? I can’t comment on the actual test speedway does trackside as these tests differ but from my pharmacy experience for those thinking ‘oh a list is issued of banned substances’ it’s not really as simple as that. Medication can have things in it that you don’t expect - that’s how Alain Baxter lost his Olympics medal, he took a sniff of Vicks. some assume OTC meds are ok but that’s not the case - many common meds such as hay fever relief tablets can’t be used as it would make you fail the drug test. All that is before taking into account that two medications taken together can heighten the strength and effect of a drug - that’s why people used to take the OTC Co codamol with full strength Coca Cola. It is a minefield and from the basic information we have then it is probably best to wait for the lab results and comments before judging an individual. Even then though Bandits Fan, it’s wise not to open yourself up to slander accusations with random accusations Just my opinions obviously Spot on Lioness. There have been lots of opinions posted regarding last night's meeting at Berwick, some I agree with some I don't but that's my opinion. There is however a big difference between offering an opinion and making statements which they claim to be a 'FACT', which one poster has done. You clearly know more about medication and testing, but I would add that I'm aware of a number of work colleagues being advised after a basic works medical to see their doctor as a urine test had indicated they could be diabetic. A blood test at their doctor's showed they weren't diabetic. I think that is another reason for the wording used by the Speedway authorities as testing at the lab can identify more clearly was has or hasn't been taken. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bandit59 1,151 Posted April 7 Lots of editing going on in someone's posts on here 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 907 Posted April 7 (edited) 13 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: Spot on Lioness. There have been lots of opinions posted regarding last night's meeting at Berwick, some I agree with some I don't but that's my opinion. There is however a big difference between offering an opinion and making statements which they claim to be a 'FACT', which one poster has done. You clearly know more about medication and testing, but I would add that I'm aware of a number of work colleagues being advised after a basic works medical to see their doctor as a urine test had indicated they could be diabetic. A blood test at their doctor's showed they weren't diabetic. I think that is another reason for the wording used by the Speedway authorities as testing at the lab can identify more clearly was has or hasn't been taken. so true about weaker first time testing as in road side or track side not sure what test the scb do if its a dip or swipe or something better a place near me suspended 4 workers for cocaine only to be cleared by proper tests 5 off us at work were told on a medical for our operators license to go for proper eye test or doctors as we might have brain tumour all off us are still fine and clear of brain tumour and also the same medicals over the years have suggested diabetic issue with various people who were also clear and they were done at our local vets oh sorry hospital at the end of the day speedway riders are adrenaline junkies so no real surprise some look for kicks in other ways off season Edited April 7 by scaramanga Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,652 Posted April 7 I imagine a lot of us have strong opinions on drug taking, drug testing and the disciplinary process, but they are best aired in the generally away from a single specific case - particularly one about which the facts are not yet known/in the public domain 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nickinho 429 Posted April 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lioness said: You do realise that just because it’s an internet forum and you are using a Nick name, it doesn’t mean you can’t be sued for slander?I You do realise that he lives in Scotland and can be sent to prison for seven years just for upsetting you Who cares! Chill. You're making this forum way too serious and unenjoyable. Edited April 7 by Nickinho 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
