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The gods have more power than Godfrey , consider it a way of justice.

It seems to me most posters on here worship the God of the bitter and twisted or attend the Church of Moaners, where the Communion wine glass is always half empty and never half full.

oh the irony...….other fixtures featuring complete sides postponed to allow other teams to use their riders as guests..and then its off...

Where is your charitable spirit. We have taken Richie in, clothed him and he was smiling last night too Dorothy.

If the hijackers will now let us get this thread back in line with its title, it is interesting that Speedway Star have devoted a whole page to an interview with Rob Godfrey and he has simply used it to blame everyone but himself for the trouble he has caused in having fixtures removed from the fixture list. Fixtures, that is, that Godfrey and his (mis) Management Committee, had approved before the season started and the fans relied on. This is the problem with this blinkered shower on the Management Committee (and I use the term "management " in its loosest possible sense) , they are apparently unaware that the sport is on its knees and each time they mess up in this way, more fans walk away. It really is a disgrace and unacceptable for the person whose committee is supposed to be running the sport , to blame other people for the problem he caused. If Scunthorpe hadn't needed guests none of this would have arisen. Still at least we have a member of the (mis) Management Committee acknowledging there is a problem. Until now we have simply had fixtures being pulled out of the list and a month of conspicuous silence from the MC, who have carried on as if nothing had happened, completely ignoring the fans.. I doubt whether Godfrey and his mates could run a stall in a Women's institute jumble say successfully. Incompetent beyond belief

Should have been run on July 13th until it was unceremoniously removed from the fixture list. Wonder what will happen now?? Despite winning the away leg they will probably award the tie to Newcastle unless we run it before July 31st lol!

And when it all collapses most of them will look around and still not understand why

haha just have to spend spendspend

Don't tell me the houses will be built first ?

Totally irrelevant - international calender gives priority to British Premiership on a Monday No Josh due to riding in Poland should be no facillty

I agree. Monday’s are priority for UK teams and if riders choose (or forced) to ride elsewhere (whatever their nationality or license issuing authority) then no facility. If Poole use a facility then it should be a 28 day ban for Josh!

Gutted for Cookie tonight. Whether you like him or not, the way he has tried to involve his supporters in his Grand Prix journey should be admired hugely. Really hope Cookie can bang in at least two semis in the last five GP's to give himself a chance of a wildcard. I think he'll struggle to do it but you never know. Either way, he qualified by right last year and has got so close to pulling it off again, hopefully that will be recognised.

Rory giving his own Team a chance of Qualifying by the looks of it

No, some of us are able to resist the temptation of ‘live speedway on their doorstep’ when its absolutely garbage.

Quite possibly the worst challenge result for many a year. None of them have or will add much to the GPs.

Lambert wins heat 19. Fricke engine failure

Lambert can do Cook a favour and beat Fricke in heat 19

Thanks. I'll remember that and not talk about chickens again. Your constant whingeing does get a bit tiring, although I largely ignore it. Panthers are having a great season - just enjoy it!

Ironically enough if this meeting had gone ahead yesterday it would be all over?

Yes I agree.......it's just something that's been in place many years, a difficult prob, and we fans tend to accept it while ignoring what 'outsiders' think? I mean we turn the proverbial 'blind eye' to the situation because of loving the sport !

The item above is so correct all we see is riders double up in the top 2 leagues , the premiership is a joke the majority of riders also ride in the championship apart from the likes of Thorshell , NKI, Lambert ,R etc what i see is majority of Aussies ride in both leagues, question is this to attract them to UK instead of staying at home and earning money ? The quicker we get back to one rider one team for the season British talent may get a chance to come to the fore and we can do better at international level.

Just been heavy downpour but its hot so will dry

Just uploaded some photo's from practice this afternoon: https://www.facebook.com/pg/FIMTrackRacing/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1570840623021044

First time I’ve been to Glasgow at night and WOW.. what a difference! £17 entry which I would pay over and over again if all meetings were of that quality! A meeting and a half and one I will be getting the DVD of! Absolutely gutted to have left with nothing though... turning point for sure was the TS Glasgow had to use! Hope we can pinch the poInts tonight but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Glasgow take them! Their heat 13 & likely 15 riders could do us over again!

What's staggering is that a lot of Championship clubs are already charging the same as, if not more, to get in to watch them. I read the other day Edinburgh charge £18.50 if you don't buy a ticket in advance! So, are clubs like that racking it in on the 2nd division by over charging or are they doing it to stay afloat in the hope the same old regulars keep coming back and paying £18 or whatever it might be? If it's the 1st option... why would they want change? If it's the 2nd, how could they make it pay with the increased costs of the top tier? Assuming they could make it pay the top division needs Sheffield, Ipswich, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Peterborough to move up. The rest could make up a 2nd division which is a lot lower standard and a lot more cost effective to them.

Most of us on here don't alter the rules to suit or benefit our own causes , that why we have a moan when someone like your beloved Godfrey thinks its o/k to inconvenience others just so he can get his own way by using the powers handed to him as vice chairman inappropriately.

Poland know the deal, Monday & Wednesday is UK. I would be amazing if Josh isn’t at Leicester and Matt will hold his ground.

That`s one thing for sure, when you comes to PR and promoting, Glasgow are streets ahead of most other clubs from any league.

Ford is a shrewd businessman and has to make Poole speedway pay, if he is talking about time to get out you know the sport has reached or very nearly reached the point of no return. Should be a wake up call for the BSPA but don't hold your breath.

The worry is if crowds at Swindon, Poole, King's Lynn and Wolverhampton are down because they have all retained their traditional race night. If anything, I would expect their crowds to increase because FNR has more or less solved the doubling up problems, which so many fans complained about. The enforced Monday nights have been a disaster for Belle Vue, we know what it has done to Rye House, crowds seem to be down at Leicester. I don't know about Somerset but I can see that a move away from the Friday problems on the M5 could be a benefit. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but is it just coincidence that it's the old guard who managed to retain their race nights and the newer promotions who had to change? I can see no alternative now to one league with riders committed to the UK and teams racing on whichever night best suits them. Clubs must also live within their financial means. Anything else is just more tinkering around the edges and again not facing up to the realities of the current state of the sport in the UK.

Or no facility ??

I'm sure plenty if us have our fingers and toes crossed.

I accept all of what you say but the cock up with Trevor Harding's average and that night of 'engine failures' at Lynn are as bad as anything we've ever experienced at the Norfolk Arena. I'm certainly not interested in hanging Mr Rogers out to dry or abusing him but the facts over the years speak for themselves and how many clubs he has been at in that time.

Probably as good a suggestion I have read. No doubt a lot of time has been devoted to recognise the issues that are bound to exist, but overall pretty good. I have always thought there is very little to choose between the strength of the two leagues, and have said before, nothing will ever prosper while promoters have different agendas. for this sport to works we have to all want the same thing... I find it amazing that our closest rivals are in the other league elimination many local derby clashes. Having a North and South divide would allow more spectators to travel and generate a more intense local rivalries.. A win, win situation..

Lets hope its all just precaution and no serious issue is actually there All the best Nathan - the thoughts of the Massif are with you

I think we all have a pretty good idea as to why our league fixtures are being "held back" or delayed as much as possible by "outside sources". But I am not prepared to put that in print (!!),

What a shaggin

An unbeaten Schlein wouldve seen Glasgow score 38 I suppose it made a poor result piss poor but thats all

Hoping for a Smolinski win in heat 20

Plenty of 'actual' fans see it that way too.

You know as well as I do that they don’t have to rubber stamp a local nomination, and as Bavarian as just pointed out, have done otherwise in the past.

True, but those sheep still went there own way, and now look at the state of it. Matt hasnt decided what he will do yet, but its high time all, the promoters stuck together and said this is what we want.. otherwise i can see several other clubs disapearing. I still say the biggest problem is at the top..

Of course it affects us! Josh scored paid 9 there a couple of weeks ago. How are we going to cover his rides? It clearly makes our task harder. Easy to say Klindt can cover 3 of his rides but what if Woryna or Worrall need covering? And I don’t expect Klindt to score similar to his last visit anyway. Josh needs to be forced to ride. Mondays and Wednesdays are UK, or not worth having fixed race nights.

That is the tragedy of the whole massive decline of UK speedway. They will not listen to anyone ( including lifelong fans ) and believe that the word feedback means something like poisonous assassin or despicable enemy. They view the people who have put forward constructive ideas as one of those.

It is common knowledge that most clubs have hit trouble this year even the mighty Poole have problems and there gates have been down.My club Swindon i think the gates have held up quite well considering the crap entertainment dished out week to week but there are rumours they are in big trouble.Something has to change but talks and plans need to start now dont leave it until there good old jolly up meeting in Tennerife and rush things through.

I normally look forward to away meetings but having been several times to this track I know the ‘racing’ will be absolutely dire and it will be a gating competition as always. Still, I will be there cheering on the Pirates to hopefully a repeat of their last visit.

One big league would close a few more clubs down quite quickly ..but no matter what they do I am sad to say nothing can save UK speedway anymore from the slow death as one by one clubs close .people want to see the best but sadly we have not got the money or the crowds to do that .The moment they drop the standard again and we lose the last few good riders worth watching the end will be near .of course the die hards who go every week and will be happy to watch a lowest of the low but the fans they need to get back will be lost forever .

Just a couple of observations. The 1965 and 1995 amalgamations were very different. In the 60s it was done very much on the terms of the lower (Provincial) league with a concerted effort to make all teams as equal as possible. Can never be totally achieved of course but they were close enough to provide a 17 team league fixture list. Result was a golden era for the sport. The 90s one was much more of a “survival of the fittest” effort. Result was an immediate loss of some tracks and a gradual decline in general. As regards promoters having ties to more than one track, this was never a problem for many years. Mike Parker and Reg Fearman both operated three tracks in the same league, the Knotts operated Poole at the same time as Southampton and then Newport. Then there was the Allied Promoters organisation which operated a number of tracks in each of the two leagues that then existed. Big point to make about them all though is that they were run as businesses that needed other successful tracks were needed to make a healthy league. Today’s win at all costs attitude is completely different. As I said just observations from someone who would love to see a proper full season of weekly fixtures against teams of similar strength.

A short clip of Heat 4 from Monday

I think the issue with speedway is not just the style of music played but the fact that everyone has to stand around listening to it for more time than is necessary.