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The gods have more power than Godfrey , consider it a way of justice.

It seems to me most posters on here worship the God of the bitter and twisted or attend the Church of Moaners, where the Communion wine glass is always half empty and never half full.

oh the irony...….other fixtures featuring complete sides postponed to allow other teams to use their riders as guests..and then its off...

Where is your charitable spirit. We have taken Richie in, clothed him and he was smiling last night too Dorothy.

If the hijackers will now let us get this thread back in line with its title, it is interesting that Speedway Star have devoted a whole page to an interview with Rob Godfrey and he has simply used it to blame everyone but himself for the trouble he has caused in having fixtures removed from the fixture list. Fixtures, that is, that Godfrey and his (mis) Management Committee, had approved before the season started and the fans relied on. This is the problem with this blinkered shower on the Management Committee (and I use the term "management " in its loosest possible sense) , they are apparently unaware that the sport is on its knees and each time they mess up in this way, more fans walk away. It really is a disgrace and unacceptable for the person whose committee is supposed to be running the sport , to blame other people for the problem he caused. If Scunthorpe hadn't needed guests none of this would have arisen. Still at least we have a member of the (mis) Management Committee acknowledging there is a problem. Until now we have simply had fixtures being pulled out of the list and a month of conspicuous silence from the MC, who have carried on as if nothing had happened, completely ignoring the fans.. I doubt whether Godfrey and his mates could run a stall in a Women's institute jumble say successfully. Incompetent beyond belief

Should have been run on July 13th until it was unceremoniously removed from the fixture list. Wonder what will happen now?? Despite winning the away leg they will probably award the tie to Newcastle unless we run it before July 31st lol!

And when it all collapses most of them will look around and still not understand why

haha just have to spend spendspend

Don't tell me the houses will be built first ?

Totally irrelevant - international calender gives priority to British Premiership on a Monday No Josh due to riding in Poland should be no facillty

I agree. Monday’s are priority for UK teams and if riders choose (or forced) to ride elsewhere (whatever their nationality or license issuing authority) then no facility. If Poole use a facility then it should be a 28 day ban for Josh!

Gutted for Cookie tonight. Whether you like him or not, the way he has tried to involve his supporters in his Grand Prix journey should be admired hugely. Really hope Cookie can bang in at least two semis in the last five GP's to give himself a chance of a wildcard. I think he'll struggle to do it but you never know. Either way, he qualified by right last year and has got so close to pulling it off again, hopefully that will be recognised.

Rory giving his own Team a chance of Qualifying by the looks of it

No, some of us are able to resist the temptation of ‘live speedway on their doorstep’ when its absolutely garbage.

Quite possibly the worst challenge result for many a year. None of them have or will add much to the GPs.

Lambert wins heat 19. Fricke engine failure

Lambert can do Cook a favour and beat Fricke in heat 19

Thanks. I'll remember that and not talk about chickens again. Your constant whingeing does get a bit tiring, although I largely ignore it. Panthers are having a great season - just enjoy it!

Ironically enough if this meeting had gone ahead yesterday it would be all over?

Yes I agree.......it's just something that's been in place many years, a difficult prob, and we fans tend to accept it while ignoring what 'outsiders' think? I mean we turn the proverbial 'blind eye' to the situation because of loving the sport !

The item above is so correct all we see is riders double up in the top 2 leagues , the premiership is a joke the majority of riders also ride in the championship apart from the likes of Thorshell , NKI, Lambert ,R etc what i see is majority of Aussies ride in both leagues, question is this to attract them to UK instead of staying at home and earning money ? The quicker we get back to one rider one team for the season British talent may get a chance to come to the fore and we can do better at international level.

Just been heavy downpour but its hot so will dry

Just uploaded some photo's from practice this afternoon: https://www.facebook.com/pg/FIMTrackRacing/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1570840623021044

First time I’ve been to Glasgow at night and WOW.. what a difference! £17 entry which I would pay over and over again if all meetings were of that quality! A meeting and a half and one I will be getting the DVD of! Absolutely gutted to have left with nothing though... turning point for sure was the TS Glasgow had to use! Hope we can pinch the poInts tonight but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Glasgow take them! Their heat 13 & likely 15 riders could do us over again!

What's staggering is that a lot of Championship clubs are already charging the same as, if not more, to get in to watch them. I read the other day Edinburgh charge £18.50 if you don't buy a ticket in advance! So, are clubs like that racking it in on the 2nd division by over charging or are they doing it to stay afloat in the hope the same old regulars keep coming back and paying £18 or whatever it might be? If it's the 1st option... why would they want change? If it's the 2nd, how could they make it pay with the increased costs of the top tier? Assuming they could make it pay the top division needs Sheffield, Ipswich, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Peterborough to move up. The rest could make up a 2nd division which is a lot lower standard and a lot more cost effective to them.

Most of us on here don't alter the rules to suit or benefit our own causes , that why we have a moan when someone like your beloved Godfrey thinks its o/k to inconvenience others just so he can get his own way by using the powers handed to him as vice chairman inappropriately.

Poland know the deal, Monday & Wednesday is UK. I would be amazing if Josh isn’t at Leicester and Matt will hold his ground.

That`s one thing for sure, when you comes to PR and promoting, Glasgow are streets ahead of most other clubs from any league.

Ford is a shrewd businessman and has to make Poole speedway pay, if he is talking about time to get out you know the sport has reached or very nearly reached the point of no return. Should be a wake up call for the BSPA but don't hold your breath.

The worry is if crowds at Swindon, Poole, King's Lynn and Wolverhampton are down because they have all retained their traditional race night. If anything, I would expect their crowds to increase because FNR has more or less solved the doubling up problems, which so many fans complained about. The enforced Monday nights have been a disaster for Belle Vue, we know what it has done to Rye House, crowds seem to be down at Leicester. I don't know about Somerset but I can see that a move away from the Friday problems on the M5 could be a benefit. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but is it just coincidence that it's the old guard who managed to retain their race nights and the newer promotions who had to change? I can see no alternative now to one league with riders committed to the UK and teams racing on whichever night best suits them. Clubs must also live within their financial means. Anything else is just more tinkering around the edges and again not facing up to the realities of the current state of the sport in the UK.

Or no facility ??

I'm sure plenty if us have our fingers and toes crossed.

I accept all of what you say but the cock up with Trevor Harding's average and that night of 'engine failures' at Lynn are as bad as anything we've ever experienced at the Norfolk Arena. I'm certainly not interested in hanging Mr Rogers out to dry or abusing him but the facts over the years speak for themselves and how many clubs he has been at in that time.

Probably as good a suggestion I have read. No doubt a lot of time has been devoted to recognise the issues that are bound to exist, but overall pretty good. I have always thought there is very little to choose between the strength of the two leagues, and have said before, nothing will ever prosper while promoters have different agendas. for this sport to works we have to all want the same thing... I find it amazing that our closest rivals are in the other league elimination many local derby clashes. Having a North and South divide would allow more spectators to travel and generate a more intense local rivalries.. A win, win situation..

Lets hope its all just precaution and no serious issue is actually there All the best Nathan - the thoughts of the Massif are with you

I think we all have a pretty good idea as to why our league fixtures are being "held back" or delayed as much as possible by "outside sources". But I am not prepared to put that in print (!!),

Ha ha your garbage crawl back under ya own doorstep

Now come on Cookie. All put your hands together for an ef for Lindback. And yes before you ask Im bloody biased

....and see even more fans leave the sport in its masses. Continuing to weaken and weaken the product is not the answer!

The forum is for people to air there views, no matter if you believe they are being honest or warped, it's a point of view which we are all entitled to participate as long as it doesn't contain fowl language and is not of a threatening nature and you have to expect these comments as we are only human beings at the end of the day .

I'll never forget sticking up for Speedway when the Workington RL club Directors were slating the sport during a coach journey with them.....speedway, incidentally, did bring much needed earnings to the RL hosts...(maybe still does?). However to a man they were convinced that Speedway was seriously unreal....the example they touted as their evidence was when Stoney had guested, and scored well, for Newcastle who were challenging the Comets for honours, how could that happen?...They wouldn't wear the 'guest' system at all.......and maybe other non fans see it similarily.??

So after a post saying..... "Not heard anything would imagine a trip to Hospital after the meeting to get checked over would be on the cards. Was a horrendous crash though and went into the ambulance on the board." .....you say "Good DVD to get then" So you think its good to see an horrendous crash inflicting injury to a rider that requires to be taken away to an ambulance? EDIT: Bandit59 has since answered no and it was just unfortunate that his post was straight after the one it just happened to follow. All good. I've personally never been one for viewing crashes and especially bike crashes, having had bikes myself (not speedway ones) and injuries I hate to see crashes and injured riders and it doesn't matter which team they ride for be it Berwick, Ipswich, Lakeside, anybody, I hate to see crashes and injured riders, that was my concern and good to see Bandit59 clarified it, thanks.

just seen the photos, awful crash, he's been very lucky. good luck to him.

I'm a Somerset fan but no way are we favourites. Iversen and Lambert should in all reality have good chances of going unbeaten and they also have just as good a team in depth as we do. I would love it if we won but sadly Lynn look favourites without Doyle.

It's probably already too late for some clubs.

The rules are quite clear, 1 guest, 1 rr. Unless riders are doubling up then can be replaced by a guest regardless. Neither are doubling up so no extra facility available that I can see.

What part of "We're not going there without Stevie Worrall" don't you understand Rob?

And if you remember rightly, back in the early 70's we had 18+ side s in the top league. Now, in those days if you had for example Ivan Mauger Ole Olsen Anders michenek Barry Briggs coming to your home meeting you have to go, otherwise you will not see them for the rest of the season unless they ride in an open meeting ie in our case the Blue Riband. Nowadays you miss the top boys, whats left of them and you think, oh well, they will be back in 4 weeks. We need tro get back to the above, but we also need to keep the play off's. We also need a fair team building average, and all teams have to use either 1-2 wobblers. they also still needs to be an academy league ran by Vatch and co. We still need to bring the kids on and make our own top riders of the future. Thing is, if they get good enough Poland will want to poach them, how do you stop that. IMO they choose one or the other.. Times have changed, and we have to change with it.. We should still have a british final, and the winner goes to Cardiff as a wlid card. But other than that they have to make choises, we carry no passengers anymore, clubs cannot afford to.. First things first, we need to get shot of that person at the top of the management comittee..

It would have to be a fan of over 20 years ago I would say... Since circa 2000 many fans have predicted the current situation as simply it was the ONLY outcome if British Speedway followed the same path of destruction... Too many Mickey Mouse meetings which by definition then led to Mickey Mouse Championships eventually eroded the patience (and interest) of even the most ardent of fans.... Quantity of Speedway meetings became the mantra rather than the Quality of them... All to pay for the far too many riders over this time who became full time professionals meaning they needed shed loads of meetings to earn a decent living after paying out 'daft money' on machinery and tuning, all to keep up with those with true genuine talent who would, by natural selection, inevitably rise to the top of the Sport. (Like has happened ongoing since 1928)... The only way of paying for this 'professionalism' was to run more and more meetings of less and less credibility, and charge inflation busting admission fees year on year to desperately try and compensate for the ever growing annual reduction in income, all due to dissilusioned fans leaving the Sport in double digit % numbers each season.. Sky must have pumped in circa £20M to British Speedway over this time with the net result of diddly squat in positive impact to the Sport today... Riders, bike and engine manufacturers, and tuners will all have earned a staggering amount of money in this time (an even more staggering amount given the actual size of the Sport I would suggest)... If only half of that £20M had been invested in proper marketing and advertising of the Sport, maybe used as 'Prize Money' rather than 'wages' to give Championships some credibilty and kudos, or even used to subsidise admission costs, I would suggest the Sport in Britain would be a million miles better off than it is today..... Sadly, when fans the length and breadth of the Country gave the Promoters some excellent constructive feedback in Speedway publications and social media, no one actually listened... Maybe they were genuinely deaf? Or maybe they were just simply arrogant...? One thing is for sure... They need to start listening now, and do something about it immediately... Before it truly is too late...

How is such a wonderful sport allowed to be run by such a bunch of c###s!?... something has to be done soon before it dies.