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So what evidence do you have of that ? An honorable man involved in that budget has already stated you are incorrect, so maybe you could provide us the evidence to back up your opinion...

Instead of being an arse on here and seeing that you seem to have a lot of time on your hands, why not pop down to the stadium and offer to help with the covers. They may even offer you free admission as a reward

His only win was the Twitter poll

This one has a cracker written all over it. Strong heat leaders on both sides and some of the best young talent also on show. Tough one to call but Im thinking the Bears will take the points, but by a slender margin. Get along and enjoy some top class action on one of the very best race tracks in the country.

That was rather good fun

Just thought I'd have a quick look to see how Swindon's new stadium was coming along, but I seem to have stumbled onto a Belle Vue slanging match thread.

I see once again our club are not encouraging families to come to speedway in Poole with there charges for children only the under fives are free considering most clubs give good discounts for under sixteen year olds in fact most are free !!!!

We are far from sad and confused we all know your a clown , no confusion there.

Come now, that doesn’t fit in with the agenda. As I’ve said before twenty other riders didn’t have an issue with the club themes including bigger names than Mr Cook.

The rain has saved the Aces from getting a good thrashing

Sorry Orion and pinny, but you have the attitude “you know best” and in spite of what was said as an alternative you both went on as if you were right others wrong. What we don’t know, unless I missed the headlines, what part did the speedway promotors association have in the final outcome. There seemed to be a lot of jealousy from some quarters, “the cheek of it all, someone getting the council to not only support a new stadium in the middle of housing, but to actually get them to pay for it, millions at that”. Maybe you two are of that class, after all, one of you shows location as Aussie, and the other in noodle land. Anyway, this is a Swindon thread, so as pointed out we are well off topic.

I take it Peterbrough altered their track then, i'm sure last time I went show ground was big fast and open. young Dan needs time and no pressure putting on him

I just can't see where fans standing around on a cold night waiting for Twitter votes to be made and counted can be entertaining . I think this voting by the fans idea is ridiculous .

I wouldn't take to much notice of Daniel,he wants all the East Anglian clubs to fail. Bit miffed to see such a scoreline,but it is early doors.Wouldn't have minded so much if these scores went onto the averages but i don't think they do.If they did i would like to have thought they were average manipulating already,in earnest to make changes for the PL. Anyway congratulations to Ipswich on the demolition of my Stars teamObviously the best team by far on the night.Hopefully we will get some kind of revenge in 11 days time.That will be the first match i will be able to attend this season.Hoping to see plenty of Witches fans there.

LOL

Anyone think this Stars team will deliver needs a reality check. Reserves abysmal and asking Kerr to deliver in the top 5 is a an ask. If Lambert has a bad day we're stuffed as proven. 1st meeting of the season or not, we've been shown up big time against the other weakest team in the league. Let the Wooden Spoon battle commence with this current septet.

Nice of Simon Lambert to ride instead of Robert

Embarrassing!

Blimey, one challenge match and you want Ulrich out already! Nothing like giving a guy a chance!

Currently the only way Proctor will get double figures is by sticking 2 fingers up.

Chapman/Peterborough didn't release a rider 5 days before the season started. Said rider, refused to sign a contract and walked out 5 days before the start of the season!

"Look out for the pole @ipswichspeedway after heat 10." ....Is KP Nuts going to turn up late?

Ostergaard has struggled last 3 years now, but lets be honest Newman seems to have struggled again last night, but every year people keep saying he's a bargain average. The Brummies in for a long season

It'll be an easy home win, not because BV have a particularly good team but because t'other lot have cut their own throats.

Indeed, doesn’t seem like a money issue to me. Harris released to bolster Ipswich and solve the Tungate issue, Cook didn’t sign due to the sponsorship disagreement. Could be wrong of course but that’s how it looks to me.

My estimate would be 2500

I wasn't far out regarding the reserves. Lynn reserves 4 ……. Ippo's 17. So even if Lambo had scored 10 or so, the Stars would have still got their asses kicked.

Not against the worst team in the league

Sadly you are right. Embarrassing score from the Stars team. Ipswich are a poor team and Stars are a lot worse.

I've re-read your last post about Ulrich, but your grammar is so rubbish it doesn't really make sense! if you're so proud to be a Brummie, then back the guy and give him a chance!

Don't flatter yourselves,i'm sure if the money was to his liking he would ride for anyone who wanted him

He wasn't chucked out though , Cook chose not to sign.

...don’t worry the BV track covers will save the day.

Difficult to say really, I would expect him to improve as the season progresses but may struggle to start with. Interestingly on Tuesday he said he prefers racing on big tracks as opposed to tight technical ones so will be interesting to see his progression at Monmore. Ashley Morris looks to be a great signing for Birmingham by the way.

Agree, Brummies look weak to me.

Does he mean Poll and not Pole

Was going to say the same, Tungate and Harris probably similar stats wise, but you’d watch Harris over Tungate all day long.

To be fair to Chapman doing what he has done has meant BT stay involved and the Sport still has a 'top league'... One big league may one day manifest itself but currently there are either not enough riders to do it of the required level, or there may be enough riders for say, five man teams, but then there wouldn't be enough meetings for them to make the money they need out of the sport.. Hence two pro leagues keeps these riders with two jobs and therefore justifying their outlay.. Something I am sure Buster knew needed to happen in the short term, before maybe embarking on a longer term strategy.. He also knew that clubs needed to start lowering their outlay on riders, something he can now control in three clubs at least, and even if all finish bottom three, the best of them will be fifth, just outside the play offs, and the second of them will have only been two places away from the play offs so not a bad season overall....!!! Taking the race to the bottom re salaries out of the equation is a major plus point if he can do it... Winning any of British Speedway Comps is pretty much of no real value from either the recognition kudos or the financial rewards available, so a period of lowering outlay and bringing some stability might just be what the Sport needs to evolve its operating model and business plan into something more fit for purpose....? Which may one day deliver recognition kudos and financial rewards..

Correct and in heat 12 Ipswich will have riders #1 and 4 against KL's #3 and 5 then vice-versa for heat 13.

Yes thats right

Yet another cracking thought provoking post from Scrutton. A bite on a Thursday, good effort

But a white hot atmosphere

I wouldn't take too much from Tungate's performance on Monday, which certainly want bad. He is not as good as Fricke or Bjerre but neither is Harris. Tungate was one of the most exciting riders to watch at the NSS. Give him a well prepared track with various racing lines and I'm sure he will soon win the fans round. He can sometimes struggle on small tracks, particularly Wolverhampton but my bet is that this season he will average about the same or better than Bomber.

You said "With the amount of money they borrowed it would be hard to put a foot wrong regarding the whole stadium and track, but of course they did". Mort and Gordon did not borrow money to fund the stadium - MCCouncil built the stadium, the promotors were renting the stadium from MCC, as now. As I understand, M&G could not be involved with the building of the stadium, including the track. Not allowed by MCC, who worked through its sub contractor, not M&G. I dont know what went on for them to be behind with the rent, probably you dont either. However the cancellation of the first meeting, caused by MCC/Sub contractors would have been a heavy loss for M&G (star field needing paying etc). Perhaps they were having a tussle with MCC for compensation, and at the same time having to sort out paying the stars, and trying to run the club - difficult I would imagine. As I said "I want to read the book". More then likely someone like MCC will have gagging orders. but may be in years to come we will know the truth. Its all been said before on this forum.

Fk off min

You was warned weeks ago about the situation. Ged was selling the club regardless. Buster was the only one to come forward and Ged sold to him. Ged signed the rider's on HIS budget but was warned by Buster that the only way Ged was keeping that team is if he could find another buyer or sponsors who could budget the team. None was found, Buster took control and rider's had to play ball within his budget or leave. Harris and Cook have chosen to leave. All in all, the blame really is with Ged for over budgeting the septet and lying to the fans. We even had Watson on here saying it was nonsense then exactly the above happened.

Why would this idea make people not go? If people don’t like the concept then just pretend it doesn’t exist and treat heat 14 as another nominated heat, go to enjoy the racing and don’t worry about it.

I agree, why give fans more reasons not to go. Remember those ridiculous extra heats in the KOC a few years ago. I avoided those meetings like the plague. All of these gimmicks won't put many extra bums on the seats, if any.

I think he may be looking through Rose tinted glasses, I remember in the past, some races never got the 2 minute klaxon, riders came straight out, little or no digging, lined up and that was that.. The 2 minute klaxon only seemed to sound if riders were in trouble with bikes etc...

Is it not time to move on from Harris & Nicholls?