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Can I say that you are all entitled to your opinion of dogs and their owners treatment of them? All I would say about my attendance at speedway meetings with my faithful friend is this. I am a responsible owner. Lenny remains on a lead at all times at meetings. Should he disgrace himself (God forbid) I always (N.B. ALWAYS) pick up. And he doesn't bark or detract from the entertainment in any way. The only time that other fans take note of his presence is to come and say hello and enjoy his happy response to their attention. He, therefore, in my opinion, only adds to the occasion and in no way upsets anyone or imposes his attentions on anyone. If it were in any way different I would not bring him. I make no apology for wanting to bring Lenny to meetings and we both enjoy each other's company. The way our adopted team is going this season, if I choose to stay away I think Lenny would leave me at home. Lenny's a nicer bloke than some so called fans that I've met and he is certainly better behaved than a small minority of children at meetings I've been to. Lenny is a light brown Greyhound cross. I'm conspicuous by my Bees coat and hat. Feel free to come and meet us at meetings at any time and debate the wisdom of my bringing him with me.

Worst possible advert for British speedway so far absolute dross

Happy enough with that - shame we couldnt squeeze out another point to send the Stars home empty handed but you cant have everything This team is built to do just what it did today - every week you are likely to have 1 or 2 not score so well but another will step up This week take a bow Barry

If you can’t tell the difference between a dog and a horse, you shouldn’t leave the house.

At least Doyley seems to be in good spirits.

I'm guessing you never saw the replay showing it from behind. Zagar rode straight into Doyle and caused the accident. Just because something happens on the first bend it doesn't always mean nobody has caused it,

Yes they were terrible lost by so many

Pleased with this nice tight scoreline, stops the cheats fudging the averages and making 17 changes.

Good day for Barry,,,, let's keep it going. A typical daytime meeting with the track drying very quick. A win is a win.

Sorry I thought it was always the best prepared race track in the UK?! Can't have been Poole riders asking for it to be watered as they never like track watering once the meeting is well underway!!

Jedd List looking very fast after the meeting, albeit racing alone. I would try and fit him in if we can.

My Border Collie Lucy doesn't need dragging as she actually waits by the door when I'm going to Beaumont Park and before that Coventry since she was 9 weeks old. To answer your question ~ in my case company on the journey to Brandon and I would feel safer with a dog with me if the car broke down. Same reason for Leicester, also it's quite a trek back to the shopping centre car park in the dark. I really don't know why you find it such a problem if people have a dog with them as owners obviously wouldn't if they were distressed or annoying to other fans. Everyone knows Lucy and she gets lots of fuss, then when the match starts she just goes to sleep.

Ht 2 Heeps definitely took Andersen's front wheel as he attempted the pass. Unbiased view from a youth parent. Stood by the gate on to the track near the first bend.

Very much so - one where you see what you want to see at the time on both sides Would be an interesting one to see a replay of in the cold light of day

I'd like to turn you off as well.

Fantastic day, the atmosphere in the city was amazing. Wondered why they had two buses, soon became apparent

Neigh lad, Neigh.

grateful for BT coverage but the view of race starts from a camera 200 feet above the ground is awful.

I'm sure it will all come to light when the official attendance figures are released anyway

That's correct long way but getting all important track time,Kieran Douglas was riding no 8 for Plymouth at Mildenhall another long journey

It is, but how many laps have the Panthers riders done on the new track.

Harris needs to swallow his pride and take a break to get his hand stronger, letting us down at the moment. everyone did well enough, well done bellego much more confident performance on a different engine. king looked considerably quicker on Heeps bike practising briefly after the meeting - his practise start on back straight seemed to drive a lot better than those during the meeting on his own bike. Hopefully can get his gear going better sooner rather than later! Heeps shouldn’t of been excluded in reserve race imo - he’d passed Andersen who then turned onto him causing his own fall

Said in the pre season predictions that this Aces line up didn’t convince me and I’m still of that opinion. They are going to be in a scrap for fourth without changes.

Possibly a perfect result for Buster all round? An attendance of around 4000 with a home win to keep more of them coming back and the Stars still getting a point.....

Hey, you've got nothing to feel bad about; you asked a legitimate question. Steve

After 8 heats and 16 pts in front, I truly expected a score similar to the match at Poole, Poole had different ideas and found their gating boots. Great comeback so well done to Poole, but for me the real winner was speedway, racing like that is what it's all about, yes they did water too much, but that goes for both teams.Totally agree with others about Wells and Berge, problem is who could we replace them with.

It’s funny how there are more injuries on the so called better tracks!

Could of, and should of, benefitted from both. Could have had Cook instead of Summers AND should replace underperforming Bjerre once he went 6+

Wasn't there so hard to comment on specifics but have seen a few clips of the racing and also some of the comments on social media about the size of the crowd at Arlington (again) and the number of kids attending. Coming from NL with Brummies as Eastbourne have, I think most hardcore speedway fans want close competitive racing and last heat deciders and not runaway wins and nothing brings newcomers back more than excitement; incidents and dare I say crashes. Winning 60 points every week like Eastbourne have for years must get boring and this loss will come as a shock to some. Enjoy it embrace it we used to say "happiness is 40-38" well 45 - 44 sounds as good as it gets to me and if a big crowd there to enjoy it so much the better. I wish we could have some of the commercial and marketing excellence that Eastbourne seem to have found at Perry Barr, no disrespect to anyone at PB but we need more supporters coming in and more enthusiasm and innovation. Well done Leicester though I can't see anyone else winning there and they are also losing riders but finding a way round it and no doubt down to the outstanding man manager they have bought in from Glasgow.

I felt Zagar was particularly tough, he was looking at Doyle too, knew exactly what he was doing and must've known he would come down, guess he didn't realise the other rider was there but it was always a possibility. Maybe Doyle and him have had some previous .....

Honestly I hoped you mopped it up... or if that's all it takes to get you an George canned it was a cheap night... good craic and enjoyed the company... apart from George coming back wid a cider instead of a bitter... yuk... nice to chat with wee Dorothy as well... good meeting although we lost and how costly were Stevie Worrall's engine gremlins in Heat 13.... never mind could have been oh so different... Oh and just to add I find it hard to believe when you told me that Gazc has such gender issues as he comes across so manly in his posts... he must have been the first publican ever in Glasgow to wear a frock... brave man... xxx Regards THJ

Guide and other working dogs are certainly not pointless, the pet ones to me are. I haven't a problem with people who like dogs, that isn't what I said. It was a genuine question as to why the need to drag them along to speedway?

Weather looking good for the Warsaw GP Weekend, High's of 18'c on the Saturday, with highs of 20'c on the Sunday, both days bright and sunny.

Sort it out.. You sound like a child..

Only at start of season I believe

How was the yellow.....sorry red bus parade today baggy?

Foxhall is much larger than compost corner The main backstraight stand has 3000 seats and was at least 2/3 full Solid in the home straight stand and 8-10 deep right round bends 1 and 2 and similar standing in front of the back straight seats Id say my 4 is closer than your 2

Ellis and Becker for Thomsen and Newman/Paco would be amazing. Cant help think if Kyle was at number 6 he would score more than Paco has .

I'm always a bit weary when Poole rides guest

Will you be there? Or perhaps should I say what guise will you be there in?

Nodody giving any praise to Poole

It did but they went to town on it. Got the massive bowser out and went round 3 times. Way over watered. From that moment Poole just adapted better. It totally killed our flow and I'd love to know if that was done in consultation with the home riders or not. A good come back for Poole so well done to them but to drop a 16 point lead after half of a meeting is shocking. I said earlier stand by this team but I've changed my mind after that. Wells and Berge need to go.

And I have called Jason Doyle, Glen more that once

The state of British speedway is typified with one of the hottest topics on this forum being about dogs.

I've never had a problem with dogs at speedway. Met quite a few over the years and without exception they were well behaved, friendly when approached and the owners had them completely uinder control Some parents could do well to take lessons on their charges behaviour from the dog owners.

Could be something to do with the lack of international matches these days to actually support GB?? Bring back the test matches!

Couldn’t disagree with a post more, what sort of ambition is that? What would you prefer Someone scoring 12 from 5 at home in 55-35 wins and 0 from 3 away in 49-41 defeats Or Someone scoring 7 from 4 at home in 50-40 wins and 5 from 4 away in 46-44 wins? I know what gets you more league points and trophies. You’re still winning on a weekly basis at home?

I take my dog wherever he is ‘allowed’. Isn’t that the point of the thread? No one is asking to take their dog to the movies.

It seems that GA and myself are being "challenged" to respond to the earlier post, si can I say that I am not and never have been, involved in any way in the administration or the operation of the Birmingham forum. I am a regular poster on this, but nothing more. I have no problem at all with anyone having differing opinions to myself - or in them airing them! I do know the people who run the forum though.They are genuine, fair-minded people and have never banned anyone for their views - only when their comments are either offensive or personal - and this seems to be the norm with all club's supporters' forums. The Brummies performance last Wednesday was deplorable - it doesn't require an expect to recognise that, and it is also clear that much better performances will be required if the team is to make any impression at all this season. Having said this though, we have had, discounting the opening meeting with Wolverhampton, which none of us expected to win, two home meetings, both against what I feel are a couple of the League's stronger clubs, one of which produced a narrow defeat from what the majority of supporters agree was a creditable effort, and one pretty awful showing last Wednesday, so it is hardly fair to rubbish the whole team on the strength of just two matches? Personally, I think the make up of our team is very fragile and that we will need all seven of our team to at least ride to form if we are going to register a few wins, but I'm prepared to give all the riders a reasonable chance so whilst there will be a few ready to throw in the towel after two meetings, I hope the majority will do likewise.If that's "blinkered" or "towing the management line" then so be it!

There's times when you can put a positive spin on it but honestly last night for me just wasn't acceptable, I was really disappointed. The score after them awful 7 heats was 13-29 and even after abit better next 8 heats we still lost be a margin of 16 points!. Its no positive that we avoided a drubbing and only lost by 16 which is resounding enough. People are totally right to feel annoyed, angry and disappointed after last night but I hope we all keep the coming every week and give the side our full support in the coming meetings. We need a reaction from the team next week against Berwick, better gating and more consistency from some of the riders is needed so we can avoid a night last night again.