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I'm no fan of Miedinski but fair play to him, caused the crash and straight over to see how the other rider is. Complete contrast to Madsen.6 points
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The only bad luck P'boro have had is Chapman taking over and ripping up the team to help strengthen his other two teams...3 points
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Also with his fellow countryman that he has just wiped out being loaded into an ambulance, Madsen is seen having a laugh with his mechanic and his major concern seems to be finding his sponsors cap when he sees the camera is on him.3 points
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Difficult not to get emotional seeing the great man like that ... and with his youngest grandson. Great to see him getting the sort of reception he deserves.3 points
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What was more disappointing for me was seeing Madsen waving to the crowd and smiling. Showing no concern for a fellow rider and countryman. Let's hope he is ok.3 points
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The british public don't want to go to speedway anymore. Cheaper admission would only be a short term fix. Once all of us old fogies have died off, its days as a professional sport will be over.3 points
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Speedway is not different, it just keeps telling itself it is, ignoring successful business tactics employed by all manners of businesses (including entertainment) and wonders why it continues to struggle. Your comments are indicative of why the sport is in the mess it is in the UK. Anyone with the slightest semblance of business knowledge would tell you that continually cutting the quality, whilst increasing the price will result in only one thing... and so it has come to pass.3 points
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Can't see a thread for this meeting so I will talk about it here... Tonight's meeting, although it started a bit disastrously, was great and it was a privilege to be able to visit Plymouth speedway where the racing (eventually) was brilliant... If that is what National League speedway is like then I think I will be making a few more trips to some National League meetings in the near future... I went to a Swindon meeting yesterday and I have to say, some of the fans around me were horrible to the riders and just in general... But at Plymouth everyone was chatty and seemed to enjoy themselves, considering the circumstances... I talked to a couple of Kent fans on the back straight who seemed pretty regular to Plymouth... So thanks to them for the help Even if yous did try to kill me with your flag pole at the beginning3 points
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Dickson hasn’t got an issue with it so I’m not sure why anyone else should have, least of all Edinburgh fans.2 points
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Our long tail is a worry , but I've seen young Australians take very well to the Scunthorpe track in the past , so young Connor Bailey might find things more to his liking than recent away tracks have . But it should be an entertaining encounter .2 points
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Don't agree with Glasgow's approach but I would blame Newcastle (who didn't bother using him after signing him) and Edinburgh (who dropped him) a lot more than Glasgow. If he was still in either team then he would still be earning a living.2 points
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We no longer pay any attention . Back to last night . Interesting meeting , Cook peerless as usual , backed up by Rasser and Starky . But the amount of last places is getting concerning . Young Connor is naturally finding life tough in the Championship, but you can see there is a rider there waiting to happen , I think we all know where the real problem is though . Leicester battled away , Douglas recovered from his very harsh exclusion in heat 3 and was superb after that . Harris was a decent guest and Connor Mountain filled his boots winning easy points against our lower order . Thankfully for Glasgow Nicholls had a bit of an off night . Once again heat 15 was a classic and I couldn't have argued if Harris got the nod for third , Leicester probably deserved a point2 points
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I've heard a "Vorney", and a "Voranee" so far.. Presume he isn't talking about the ex Yorkshire and England Captain..2 points
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Worroni is doing well tonight according to Sam.2 points
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That over the years has been a classic Miedinski move. Plenty have been fenced over the years with that move!2 points
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I can tell you what isn't a great advert for the sport. A referee turns up, does a track inspection and immediately demands extensive track work before any racing takes place. The first few heats are run and its clear that that hasn't been enough, with two teams wanting the meeting called off (according to the Isle of Wight facebook page). There is then a discussion between riders, team managers and the referee in which it is confirmed that further track work is needed. All the time this is happening those on the terraces are standing around waiting, probably wondering why they bother . That's not good enough, and what might be if it wasn't so is that this is from a promotion who angrily dismissed complaints about the state of the track that had been made after the Kent meeting, and were in flat denial that there was anything wrong at all. This after the absolute shambles against Leicester in mid June. Lets face it, Plymouth have gained a reputation here. I'd point out that it is rare for a referee to get involved in track preparation. If he does, it was that bad. It is very rare for NL riders (in contrast to Championship or Premiership competitors) to refuse to ride. Indeed, I am struggling to remember the last time they did it to this extent. What's also interesting are the scores from this meeting and the one the night before at Isle Of Wight. Plymouth were absolutely dominant, providing 13 heat winners and dropping just 4 points in 16 races. At Isle of Wight, they won just 3 races and Wallinger, Andrews and Extance scored 9 between them from 12 starts. I wonder what could have caused such a remarkable turn around ?2 points
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Show a bit of respect to a fellow rider. He wiped out the pair of them. Did not even bother to see how they were. Had time to wave to the crowd though!!!2 points
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Nice reception there for Per Jonsson.2 points
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Terrible looking crash, thoughts are with Thomsen at the moment.2 points
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Nope, he’s saying Lynn is overprepared to start with on race night, I’ve commented on this before about riders hanging on to the bike and getting strung out because the track is too grippy and hard to ride. He’s saying people can race properly once it’s slickened off a bit. So from a punter’s point of view surely it would be better to start off a bit slicker.2 points
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In my line of work we continually cut prices and often have big 'price cut launches' which are planned well in advance.. These launches cover the full package. ie a great marketing and service plan, often with loyalty card recruitment at the heart of it, allied to an operating model structure that over the key first week of the campaign will see the stores at their very best and have plenty of colleague engagement with customers.. You get but one chance to make a first impression.. Which can become the lasting one too!! We don't however enter into price cutting without a detailed cost review that has to line up with any margin loss, as this would be financial suicide, therefore if any margin shortfall will be forecasted to result, and volume increase won't cover it, then the cost base is reduced accordingly to pay for the investment in price.. Speedway on the other hand, seems to have a 'build it and they will come' mentality... It needs much, much more than that.. As the NSS so acutely highlights.. Great racing, yet hardly any more fans than the dog bowl had.. Maybe some of the (literally) several millions of pounds that collectively all clubs will pay out in total to riders in a season (who 99% of the UK wouldnt have a clue who they are), could be better invested in a joined up, collective, national marketing campaign, driven by marketing professionals that might help improve Speedways 'brand recognition'..?2 points
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Our last three matches have been excellent, well matched teams producing great entertainment. Our league is largely good with the odd exception (Birmingham, Edinburgh ). What we dont want is to rescue the Premiership as its on its arse and have all the BS that comes with it. The CL doesnt need rescuing, is its own product and has a good mix of teams.2 points
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The matches I have seen at Ashfield have been as good as it has ever been ,some cracking action on track even when no passing takes place.Well organised and well run set-up and good atmosphere.The sport is in difficult times though and needs a radical rethink.(doubtful),hard to say where it is going.2 points
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To put his ethos a bit more into perspective, he was at Plymouth last night. By the account I got, the referee ordered extensive track work before the meeting started. When it did, the surface was clearly still dangerous and further work was ordered (the Isle of Wight facebook page states two clubs wanted the meeting calling off). You can just imagine how some promoters would have taken the opportunity to put the boot into Plymouth (and, in truth, that would have been at least partly justified). I have it on good authority that Barry entertained children by giving them a taste of riding a speedway bike (albeit while it was standing still, there's a film on the Isle of Wight facebook page) chatted to spectators and assisted with the track work by manning a tractor. More power to his elbow2 points
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Is the limit crazy ? Teams in this league need to cut their cloth accordingly. Should Cook, Masters, Worrall, Schlein etc be allowed in this league Strengthen up the premiership and create this championship to a level where no one over 7.50 is in this league. Then let teams race in the league that suits them Do not have a team total in top league as money ( lack of ) will prevent it getting too strong. Joe Lawlor et al will develop but no body gains from a personal or a sport or a spectator point of view of a meeting in which the number 1s race against the 5th to 7th average rider in a team. drastic but speedway is broken in all countries and someone needs to change direction and fast2 points
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I don't think the argument between upright and laydown engines is the beginning of the sports demise as such. It's purely mythical and coincidental. It's more the materials / improved technology used that has increased speeds and reliability of the first laydown. As it was then far superior to the old upright in tech / material, other engine manufacturers acted like sheep and copied. Human nature does this in all walks of life. Look at houses, cars, mobile phones etc etc. Someone comes up with an idea, everyone else copies. If a modern engine supplier produces an upright today, it would 100% perform just as well as a laydown so the current problem actually doesn't go away. First and foremost, in my opinion, the FIM should bring the engine capacity down from 500cc to 450cc and allow straight through / silencer exhaust system.2 points
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Mystery over however judging by his recent form i wish they hadnt bothered. What goes around comes around.1 point
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League is what matters in Poland very few people care for meaningless meetings hence no crowd.1 point
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In last weeks post meeting video that you can find on twitter he mentions it https://twitter.com/i/status/11546332119113318401 point
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The shape of the track “is a problem “ certainly doesn’t wash.1 point
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"Just a pity more promoters weren't prepared to take a chance and actually promote the sport, and improve things like Glasgow have done" This is not a dig at Glasgow as I believe they have done a tremendous amount for very little reward but no other club has the financial backing to go out and do the same. Speaking to a promoter recently who spends his own ( not the clubs ) money to do the little he can afford as his club losses money every meeting so has no budget for advertising.1 point
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But even on the better tracks most of the time it enter corner on the inside and then drift to mid to outside thus making outside passing a hazard. These things are out of control on the big European tracks to. The bikes need changing easily done turn around tomorrow and state that from season 2021 the bike is going to be xyz. That gives a season and a half's notice to the riders that things will change. Time to plan.1 point
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You don't know what I think, there is a big wide world of speedway and there isn't anyone to replace Richie Worrall....bull...suits the cheats using rr ....fact.1 point
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Good to see someone is seeking feedback however, getting answers from those who go is only one small part of an engagement plan.. And is gleaning info from the converted in essence.. Maybe doing a survey in Redcar town centre might render more useful results? (If Redcar has a town centre as I haven't a clue).. Those who get asked have you been? And reply No. And those who get asked why do you not attend if you used to? And reply with their reasons. Are the key target market for any promotion to grow the business.. Getting the newbies in and the ex regulars to go back has to be the objective of any research findings.. Finding those people is the key to its success, not "why are you here and how did you hear about us?" Because ultimately, whilst it gains feedback as to the success level of your marketing plan, they are already watching the sport.. And when you do find potential newbies or ex regulars during your research, then provide that group with targeted incentives for survey completion.. As I say, fair play for a promotion for giving it a go. Hope it delivers some clear pathway to improved crowds...1 point
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I'll have to add Kent to your list. Despite battling against the dreaded curfew every week, they still get excellent crowds for NL racing. They must be one of the few tracks making money out of the sport.1 point
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eh steady on now. we let you win at your place so now you are in for a good spanking (we hope). a lot depends on our second strings and reserves. if they can nick a few points and stay on the bike then we are in with a shout. anyway come and enjoy a good evening in sunny stoke on trent and good luck to all the lads on both sides.1 point
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I’m sure Trees can fight her own battles but there needs to be a little bit more respect for her views. Nothing wrong with a it of positivity on quite a dark thread, provides a little bit of balance. Ridiculing her just isn’t on though just because others see things differently.1 point
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He looked pretty decent a couple of weeks ago when they thrashed us at home...1 point
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Pro active Customer engagement.. No surprise Barry... You seem to be on the front foot, and open minded to constructive feedback, whether good, bad or indifferent.. Hence your reputation amongst fans is at the level it is.. A bar height that others can aspire to..1 point
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The SKY coverage during the first 10 years at least should have put speedway on a sound footing. Had real business people been running the sport, no doubt it would have done. For two-to-three years from 1999 there were real signs speedway was on the up. Crowds seemed to be improving and SKY really did recognise viewing figures were good for its network of channels. We had our faces painted and kids were let in for a quid on the evening SKY rolled up for a live broadcast. There did seem to be a hint of proper promoting by those who had lazily worn the tag for yonks beforehand. But it didn't really last. It drifted into being taken for granted, speedway being on TV every week, and sometimes twice. I felt the sport - promoters and fans - thought SKY and the influx of cash would always be there. We even began having long faces when certain matches weren't on SKY, despite all they had done for us. Fans began getting picky when commentators were pronouncing riders' names wrong, or if certain teams featured more than theirs. That afternoon SKY had its cameras set up for the Riders' Championship at Coventry, when the promoter was scrambling on the floor looking for the dummy he'd just spat out, that was the final nail for SKY. They had so many rained-off meetings towards the end, I believe they decided to cut their loses. They were a professional broadcasting company working within an amateur sport. They couldn't drag it up to their level. For example, how many times did live matches overrun? BT have only half-heartedly accepted it, but we should be thankful for small mercies and not start bickering of who's doing a bad job and who you'd like to see on the panel. I often look at some of the dross SKY are covering during the summer months and cannot believe how the sport messed up its opportunity and is no longer featured. As a fan, I don't really know the ins and outs. But I do recall the amount of money SKY used to shell out setting up all the gear, and then the match was washed out. They aren't a charity and won't put up with it. BT also. I look at speedway, 20 years after SKY could have saved it, and see a dangerous shortage of riders with clubs having to share them, like the last cigarette being passed around by kids behind the bike sheds. I see clubs going weeks without a match in the height of summer, which will surely mean some fans will simply get out of the habit and get used to the cash in their pockets. Meanwhile, fans are expected to tune in to the GPs and see many of the riders (or their type) who put two fingers up at Britain and merely used it like a Tom Cat when the female was in season. Fans are expected to turn up trackside and support riders in their team who aren't even their riders. It's like visiting someone in hospital you don't know and wishing them to get better. It's not someone you know and love. In fact, you ask yourself why bother turning up at the bedside every week to wish someone you don't know get better. Looking at British speedway right now, I see remnants of what might have been, ghosts of live matches on SKY and all the missed opportunities. That could have been the sport's saviour. It should have. But look at it now. How many lives does it have remaining for British speedway to mess up?1 point