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I'm no fan of Miedinski but fair play to him, caused the crash and straight over to see how the other rider is. Complete contrast to Madsen.

Unlike the team that took that away from him of course

The only bad luck P'boro have had is Chapman taking over and ripping up the team to help strengthen his other two teams...

Also with his fellow countryman that he has just wiped out being loaded into an ambulance, Madsen is seen having a laugh with his mechanic and his major concern seems to be finding his sponsors cap when he sees the camera is on him.

Difficult not to get emotional seeing the great man like that ... and with his youngest grandson. Great to see him getting the sort of reception he deserves.

What was more disappointing for me was seeing Madsen waving to the crowd and smiling. Showing no concern for a fellow rider and countryman. Let's hope he is ok.

The british public don't want to go to speedway anymore. Cheaper admission would only be a short term fix. Once all of us old fogies have died off, its days as a professional sport will be over.

Speedway is not different, it just keeps telling itself it is, ignoring successful business tactics employed by all manners of businesses (including entertainment) and wonders why it continues to struggle. Your comments are indicative of why the sport is in the mess it is in the UK. Anyone with the slightest semblance of business knowledge would tell you that continually cutting the quality, whilst increasing the price will result in only one thing... and so it has come to pass.

Can't see a thread for this meeting so I will talk about it here... Tonight's meeting, although it started a bit disastrously, was great and it was a privilege to be able to visit Plymouth speedway where the racing (eventually) was brilliant... If that is what National League speedway is like then I think I will be making a few more trips to some National League meetings in the near future... I went to a Swindon meeting yesterday and I have to say, some of the fans around me were horrible to the riders and just in general... But at Plymouth everyone was chatty and seemed to enjoy themselves, considering the circumstances... I talked to a couple of Kent fans on the back straight who seemed pretty regular to Plymouth... So thanks to them for the help Even if yous did try to kill me with your flag pole at the beginning

Dickson hasn’t got an issue with it so I’m not sure why anyone else should have, least of all Edinburgh fans.

Our long tail is a worry , but I've seen young Australians take very well to the Scunthorpe track in the past , so young Connor Bailey might find things more to his liking than recent away tracks have . But it should be an entertaining encounter .

See you there mate

Don't agree with Glasgow's approach but I would blame Newcastle (who didn't bother using him after signing him) and Edinburgh (who dropped him) a lot more than Glasgow. If he was still in either team then he would still be earning a living.

We no longer pay any attention . Back to last night . Interesting meeting , Cook peerless as usual , backed up by Rasser and Starky . But the amount of last places is getting concerning . Young Connor is naturally finding life tough in the Championship, but you can see there is a rider there waiting to happen , I think we all know where the real problem is though . Leicester battled away , Douglas recovered from his very harsh exclusion in heat 3 and was superb after that . Harris was a decent guest and Connor Mountain filled his boots winning easy points against our lower order . Thankfully for Glasgow Nicholls had a bit of an off night . Once again heat 15 was a classic and I couldn't have argued if Harris got the nod for third , Leicester probably deserved a point

Nigel Voocock?

I've heard a "Vorney", and a "Voranee" so far.. Presume he isn't talking about the ex Yorkshire and England Captain..

Worroni is doing well tonight according to Sam.

That over the years has been a classic Miedinski move. Plenty have been fenced over the years with that move!

I can tell you what isn't a great advert for the sport. A referee turns up, does a track inspection and immediately demands extensive track work before any racing takes place. The first few heats are run and its clear that that hasn't been enough, with two teams wanting the meeting called off (according to the Isle of Wight facebook page). There is then a discussion between riders, team managers and the referee in which it is confirmed that further track work is needed. All the time this is happening those on the terraces are standing around waiting, probably wondering why they bother . That's not good enough, and what might be if it wasn't so is that this is from a promotion who angrily dismissed complaints about the state of the track that had been made after the Kent meeting, and were in flat denial that there was anything wrong at all. This after the absolute shambles against Leicester in mid June. Lets face it, Plymouth have gained a reputation here. I'd point out that it is rare for a referee to get involved in track preparation. If he does, it was that bad. It is very rare for NL riders (in contrast to Championship or Premiership competitors) to refuse to ride. Indeed, I am struggling to remember the last time they did it to this extent. What's also interesting are the scores from this meeting and the one the night before at Isle Of Wight. Plymouth were absolutely dominant, providing 13 heat winners and dropping just 4 points in 16 races. At Isle of Wight, they won just 3 races and Wallinger, Andrews and Extance scored 9 between them from 12 starts. I wonder what could have caused such a remarkable turn around ?

Show a bit of respect to a fellow rider. He wiped out the pair of them. Did not even bother to see how they were. Had time to wave to the crowd though!!!

Nice reception there for Per Jonsson.

Terrible looking crash, thoughts are with Thomsen at the moment.

Just keep the track wet and maybe one Somerset rider might not turn up

Nope, he’s saying Lynn is overprepared to start with on race night, I’ve commented on this before about riders hanging on to the bike and getting strung out because the track is too grippy and hard to ride. He’s saying people can race properly once it’s slickened off a bit. So from a punter’s point of view surely it would be better to start off a bit slicker.

In my line of work we continually cut prices and often have big 'price cut launches' which are planned well in advance.. These launches cover the full package. ie a great marketing and service plan, often with loyalty card recruitment at the heart of it, allied to an operating model structure that over the key first week of the campaign will see the stores at their very best and have plenty of colleague engagement with customers.. You get but one chance to make a first impression.. Which can become the lasting one too!! We don't however enter into price cutting without a detailed cost review that has to line up with any margin loss, as this would be financial suicide, therefore if any margin shortfall will be forecasted to result, and volume increase won't cover it, then the cost base is reduced accordingly to pay for the investment in price.. Speedway on the other hand, seems to have a 'build it and they will come' mentality... It needs much, much more than that.. As the NSS so acutely highlights.. Great racing, yet hardly any more fans than the dog bowl had.. Maybe some of the (literally) several millions of pounds that collectively all clubs will pay out in total to riders in a season (who 99% of the UK wouldnt have a clue who they are), could be better invested in a joined up, collective, national marketing campaign, driven by marketing professionals that might help improve Speedways 'brand recognition'..?

Our last three matches have been excellent, well matched teams producing great entertainment. Our league is largely good with the odd exception (Birmingham, Edinburgh ). What we dont want is to rescue the Premiership as its on its arse and have all the BS that comes with it. The CL doesnt need rescuing, is its own product and has a good mix of teams.

prob because he could not stand the constructive criticism as gazc would put it .!

The matches I have seen at Ashfield have been as good as it has ever been ,some cracking action on track even when no passing takes place.Well organised and well run set-up and good atmosphere.The sport is in difficult times though and needs a radical rethink.(doubtful),hard to say where it is going.

To put his ethos a bit more into perspective, he was at Plymouth last night. By the account I got, the referee ordered extensive track work before the meeting started. When it did, the surface was clearly still dangerous and further work was ordered (the Isle of Wight facebook page states two clubs wanted the meeting calling off). You can just imagine how some promoters would have taken the opportunity to put the boot into Plymouth (and, in truth, that would have been at least partly justified). I have it on good authority that Barry entertained children by giving them a taste of riding a speedway bike (albeit while it was standing still, there's a film on the Isle of Wight facebook page) chatted to spectators and assisted with the track work by manning a tractor. More power to his elbow

Is the limit crazy ? Teams in this league need to cut their cloth accordingly. Should Cook, Masters, Worrall, Schlein etc be allowed in this league Strengthen up the premiership and create this championship to a level where no one over 7.50 is in this league. Then let teams race in the league that suits them Do not have a team total in top league as money ( lack of ) will prevent it getting too strong. Joe Lawlor et al will develop but no body gains from a personal or a sport or a spectator point of view of a meeting in which the number 1s race against the 5th to 7th average rider in a team. drastic but speedway is broken in all countries and someone needs to change direction and fast

Don't like Poole. But isn't it their choice to run RR or a guest.

I don't think the argument between upright and laydown engines is the beginning of the sports demise as such. It's purely mythical and coincidental. It's more the materials / improved technology used that has increased speeds and reliability of the first laydown. As it was then far superior to the old upright in tech / material, other engine manufacturers acted like sheep and copied. Human nature does this in all walks of life. Look at houses, cars, mobile phones etc etc. Someone comes up with an idea, everyone else copies. If a modern engine supplier produces an upright today, it would 100% perform just as well as a laydown so the current problem actually doesn't go away. First and foremost, in my opinion, the FIM should bring the engine capacity down from 500cc to 450cc and allow straight through / silencer exhaust system.

More to the point is why did we go to this effort for Sarjeant. At first insistence to part with cash for his registration we should have moved for Nathan Greaves, or someone else.

Sorry are you saying Leicester wouldn't let us use Sarj unless we bought him ? Stuart Dickson kept that quiet

WE'VE PUMPED what must be thousands of gallons of water off the track today. The forecast for tomorrow is much better, and unless it changes, it will be ALL SYSTEMS GO for tomorrow's meeting against Glasgow Tigers. REMEMBER it's a 6.30pm start-time!

In the past any newcomer has come in on 5pt assessed average, there are one or two things that can change though. I am guessing the figures you have quoted would mean the new rider will have the 5pt average. Gamble at this time of the season especially in Leicester`s position but they will get a new asset into the club at least.

Though I seen Madsen smiling there.

I think the first lay downs were used by Hans Nielsen and Mark Loram in the World Semi Final at Bradford in 1994, seem to remember it not being until 1996 that they were permitted in the UK though.

Ask him Steve about the test match in Vojens i am sure Ian rode for England there in a test match?? .Ian's career was really strange went from being a good heat leader to a real top rider reached the Overseas final at White City and made real progress i think he had a successful furniture business hence the reason of a relatively early retirement.

Is it not in their interests to, maybe not with a begging bowl but find a way to win back those who are missing.

The usual Bandits away performance ,falling away after Ht 10.

Really enjoyed last night it was a cracker. Think we are getting spoiled with some of the racing and despite not firing on all cylinders we are still unbeaten at home. Sarj is a real worry and surprised he got all 4 rides. Young Connor was given all the hard rides at reserve but never gave up and was never far behind. As for the Lions Perks and Mountain looked good and Harris scored more than Worrall would have got. Douglas after his exclusion got better and better whilst nichols tried hard but couldn't handle the speed of cookie and Rasmus, both unbelievable. And well done to the track staff for preparing a fair track despite the heat of the passed few days.

Say it week in week out tactically not very astute. First signing of 2020 has to be a decent team manager who is capable of juggling riders and positions around correctly .I would say the MAJORITY of BRUMMIES now want him replaced . Maybe we should do a poll see what the popular opinion is . I do not know any fans who want him as manager. Only people i know that think he does a good job are people who have a vested interest in keeping him happy . In Fact are there any Brummies fans here who actually pay to get into a home meeting and want Laurence "whats the point makes no difference " Rogers to stay ???

There are IMO very few Buster supporters , but rather those that realise it is Buster or nothing at the moment. Ipswich will survive as the Louis still have some control as will KL . Panthers on the other hand are up the creek without a paddle.

Forty, your survey makes some interesting points. The poll that was undertaking, can I ask over how many different tracks and how many people from each ? Seems to me if a lot were mentioning 13 heat Speedway, second half junior races etc then those surveyed seem in the main to be 60 plus (?). If they are still turning out at that age then I would suggest they are ya real die hard fans and not able to give a true indication of what the Sport needsin the year 2020 and onwards.

I wasn't trying to big up anything. I just wandered about and thought to myself that it was a pretty decent crowd compared to other meetings. I guessed at around 2000 - which is what you get at Basingstoke Ice Hockey. It was not stated as fact. Please accept my forgiveness if I over estimated the size of the crowd. I wasn't being deliberately positive. It was a mistake. I'm so sorry. Please forgive me. I know how annoying that can be. All I know is that I went to the back straight for a bit of peace and quiet only to find it infested with humans. Disgruntled, I returned back to the home straight, muttering about all those damn interlopers being in a place that is normally kept for quiet contemplation. The crowd last night was better than normal. Let's just leave it at that.

Not forgetting we started the season 2 plus points under the limit when we swapped Cook for Summers!

The rules are clear as mud.You just add ‘“in the best interest of the sport” on to the end of each.

Have to take your hat off to Peter/David (Mason) for at least trying to give 'us' an entertaining team....they could easily have carried on with R/R for Morris. I admire their dedication and commitment to the cause.

Enjoyed that tonight, looked like a fair sized crowd too.. Guesstimate would be around 700-800 from where I was sitting... Plenty of kids with it being hols too.. Cant complain at a tenner in and free for teenagers up to eighteen years old can you? Nice to see a bit of needle too between Jack Smith and some of the Aces lads, maybe those Facebook comments about not getting picked for the U21 were being shared around... Cannot knock the NL can you? A very, very decent product, full of lads giving their all... PS, Barry's Curry must be good down there looking at how 'well fed' several of the IOW lads looked... Made me feel quite 'svelte' like.... (A 'trim' ahem, 15 and a half stone by the way). Well done to all tonight, including Chase The Ace who, with the kids in attendance, did a great job of engagement.. My only gripe would be that on nights like this more could be done to get people to come back to watch either more Colts or 'the big boys'. A massive opportunity to advertise more meetings to a captured market and several around me were first time attendees.. Maybe discounted Aces meeting tickets to any of the newbies? A bit of market research on the night can guide who you try and engage.. Fair play to Mark Lemon too, not a short flight from Russia yet in the pits tonight.. Well done that man.. You do feel that there is hope when the NL shows what can be done..