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I'm no fan of Miedinski but fair play to him, caused the crash and straight over to see how the other rider is. Complete contrast to Madsen.

Unlike the team that took that away from him of course

The only bad luck P'boro have had is Chapman taking over and ripping up the team to help strengthen his other two teams...

Also with his fellow countryman that he has just wiped out being loaded into an ambulance, Madsen is seen having a laugh with his mechanic and his major concern seems to be finding his sponsors cap when he sees the camera is on him.

Difficult not to get emotional seeing the great man like that ... and with his youngest grandson. Great to see him getting the sort of reception he deserves.

What was more disappointing for me was seeing Madsen waving to the crowd and smiling. Showing no concern for a fellow rider and countryman. Let's hope he is ok.

The british public don't want to go to speedway anymore. Cheaper admission would only be a short term fix. Once all of us old fogies have died off, its days as a professional sport will be over.

Speedway is not different, it just keeps telling itself it is, ignoring successful business tactics employed by all manners of businesses (including entertainment) and wonders why it continues to struggle. Your comments are indicative of why the sport is in the mess it is in the UK. Anyone with the slightest semblance of business knowledge would tell you that continually cutting the quality, whilst increasing the price will result in only one thing... and so it has come to pass.

Can't see a thread for this meeting so I will talk about it here... Tonight's meeting, although it started a bit disastrously, was great and it was a privilege to be able to visit Plymouth speedway where the racing (eventually) was brilliant... If that is what National League speedway is like then I think I will be making a few more trips to some National League meetings in the near future... I went to a Swindon meeting yesterday and I have to say, some of the fans around me were horrible to the riders and just in general... But at Plymouth everyone was chatty and seemed to enjoy themselves, considering the circumstances... I talked to a couple of Kent fans on the back straight who seemed pretty regular to Plymouth... So thanks to them for the help Even if yous did try to kill me with your flag pole at the beginning

Dickson hasn’t got an issue with it so I’m not sure why anyone else should have, least of all Edinburgh fans.

Our long tail is a worry , but I've seen young Australians take very well to the Scunthorpe track in the past , so young Connor Bailey might find things more to his liking than recent away tracks have . But it should be an entertaining encounter .

See you there mate

Don't agree with Glasgow's approach but I would blame Newcastle (who didn't bother using him after signing him) and Edinburgh (who dropped him) a lot more than Glasgow. If he was still in either team then he would still be earning a living.

We no longer pay any attention . Back to last night . Interesting meeting , Cook peerless as usual , backed up by Rasser and Starky . But the amount of last places is getting concerning . Young Connor is naturally finding life tough in the Championship, but you can see there is a rider there waiting to happen , I think we all know where the real problem is though . Leicester battled away , Douglas recovered from his very harsh exclusion in heat 3 and was superb after that . Harris was a decent guest and Connor Mountain filled his boots winning easy points against our lower order . Thankfully for Glasgow Nicholls had a bit of an off night . Once again heat 15 was a classic and I couldn't have argued if Harris got the nod for third , Leicester probably deserved a point

Nigel Voocock?

I've heard a "Vorney", and a "Voranee" so far.. Presume he isn't talking about the ex Yorkshire and England Captain..

Worroni is doing well tonight according to Sam.

That over the years has been a classic Miedinski move. Plenty have been fenced over the years with that move!

I can tell you what isn't a great advert for the sport. A referee turns up, does a track inspection and immediately demands extensive track work before any racing takes place. The first few heats are run and its clear that that hasn't been enough, with two teams wanting the meeting called off (according to the Isle of Wight facebook page). There is then a discussion between riders, team managers and the referee in which it is confirmed that further track work is needed. All the time this is happening those on the terraces are standing around waiting, probably wondering why they bother . That's not good enough, and what might be if it wasn't so is that this is from a promotion who angrily dismissed complaints about the state of the track that had been made after the Kent meeting, and were in flat denial that there was anything wrong at all. This after the absolute shambles against Leicester in mid June. Lets face it, Plymouth have gained a reputation here. I'd point out that it is rare for a referee to get involved in track preparation. If he does, it was that bad. It is very rare for NL riders (in contrast to Championship or Premiership competitors) to refuse to ride. Indeed, I am struggling to remember the last time they did it to this extent. What's also interesting are the scores from this meeting and the one the night before at Isle Of Wight. Plymouth were absolutely dominant, providing 13 heat winners and dropping just 4 points in 16 races. At Isle of Wight, they won just 3 races and Wallinger, Andrews and Extance scored 9 between them from 12 starts. I wonder what could have caused such a remarkable turn around ?

Show a bit of respect to a fellow rider. He wiped out the pair of them. Did not even bother to see how they were. Had time to wave to the crowd though!!!

Nice reception there for Per Jonsson.

Terrible looking crash, thoughts are with Thomsen at the moment.

Just keep the track wet and maybe one Somerset rider might not turn up

Nope, he’s saying Lynn is overprepared to start with on race night, I’ve commented on this before about riders hanging on to the bike and getting strung out because the track is too grippy and hard to ride. He’s saying people can race properly once it’s slickened off a bit. So from a punter’s point of view surely it would be better to start off a bit slicker.

In my line of work we continually cut prices and often have big 'price cut launches' which are planned well in advance.. These launches cover the full package. ie a great marketing and service plan, often with loyalty card recruitment at the heart of it, allied to an operating model structure that over the key first week of the campaign will see the stores at their very best and have plenty of colleague engagement with customers.. You get but one chance to make a first impression.. Which can become the lasting one too!! We don't however enter into price cutting without a detailed cost review that has to line up with any margin loss, as this would be financial suicide, therefore if any margin shortfall will be forecasted to result, and volume increase won't cover it, then the cost base is reduced accordingly to pay for the investment in price.. Speedway on the other hand, seems to have a 'build it and they will come' mentality... It needs much, much more than that.. As the NSS so acutely highlights.. Great racing, yet hardly any more fans than the dog bowl had.. Maybe some of the (literally) several millions of pounds that collectively all clubs will pay out in total to riders in a season (who 99% of the UK wouldnt have a clue who they are), could be better invested in a joined up, collective, national marketing campaign, driven by marketing professionals that might help improve Speedways 'brand recognition'..?

Our last three matches have been excellent, well matched teams producing great entertainment. Our league is largely good with the odd exception (Birmingham, Edinburgh ). What we dont want is to rescue the Premiership as its on its arse and have all the BS that comes with it. The CL doesnt need rescuing, is its own product and has a good mix of teams.

prob because he could not stand the constructive criticism as gazc would put it .!

The matches I have seen at Ashfield have been as good as it has ever been ,some cracking action on track even when no passing takes place.Well organised and well run set-up and good atmosphere.The sport is in difficult times though and needs a radical rethink.(doubtful),hard to say where it is going.

To put his ethos a bit more into perspective, he was at Plymouth last night. By the account I got, the referee ordered extensive track work before the meeting started. When it did, the surface was clearly still dangerous and further work was ordered (the Isle of Wight facebook page states two clubs wanted the meeting calling off). You can just imagine how some promoters would have taken the opportunity to put the boot into Plymouth (and, in truth, that would have been at least partly justified). I have it on good authority that Barry entertained children by giving them a taste of riding a speedway bike (albeit while it was standing still, there's a film on the Isle of Wight facebook page) chatted to spectators and assisted with the track work by manning a tractor. More power to his elbow

Is the limit crazy ? Teams in this league need to cut their cloth accordingly. Should Cook, Masters, Worrall, Schlein etc be allowed in this league Strengthen up the premiership and create this championship to a level where no one over 7.50 is in this league. Then let teams race in the league that suits them Do not have a team total in top league as money ( lack of ) will prevent it getting too strong. Joe Lawlor et al will develop but no body gains from a personal or a sport or a spectator point of view of a meeting in which the number 1s race against the 5th to 7th average rider in a team. drastic but speedway is broken in all countries and someone needs to change direction and fast

Don't like Poole. But isn't it their choice to run RR or a guest.

I don't think the argument between upright and laydown engines is the beginning of the sports demise as such. It's purely mythical and coincidental. It's more the materials / improved technology used that has increased speeds and reliability of the first laydown. As it was then far superior to the old upright in tech / material, other engine manufacturers acted like sheep and copied. Human nature does this in all walks of life. Look at houses, cars, mobile phones etc etc. Someone comes up with an idea, everyone else copies. If a modern engine supplier produces an upright today, it would 100% perform just as well as a laydown so the current problem actually doesn't go away. First and foremost, in my opinion, the FIM should bring the engine capacity down from 500cc to 450cc and allow straight through / silencer exhaust system.

As far as I know, Arthur Payne is still with us. Brian Crutcher comes in ahead of Broady, as he was born 23rd August, 1934. Steve

What’s he meant to do.Its was racing accident he has just get on with it.Criticised-for smiling what next.

How's Sam doing with pronouncing Miskowiak? I've missed a few races.. He was having a decent stab at two or three alternatives to his name earlier in the meeting..

I would agree in principle however in my line of work (tourism) by allowing children in free (whether five or fifteen years of age) doesn't necessarily increase the number of paying adults (although that is/was the incentive behind the scheme) and one of the attractions in York has had to abandon it's 'free' children option as they have been experiencing serious losses financially. Of course making the attraction (whatever the product) desirable is the essence of achieving financial reward and thereby lies the problem in many instances.

Reducing prices/Doing special offers, is a fundamental part of any business.. And is used to increase customer footfall or sales unit volume depending on what you are offering.. The key to its success being of course that it overall delivers more profit.. But. This can only be done though if it is part of a bigger long term customer service, increased product quality, value for money package.. That is where Speedway clubs who do 'specials' fail as there is simply no clear short, medium and long term objective to doing it... It is very much a 'for one night only' deal without using this 'one night' as they should.. ie as a (potentially) loss making/break even at best investment in a much more detailed and wider marketing strategy, where by that nights 'captured market' is engaged for all it is worth to try and gain those repeat visits so fundamental to success.. Putting out the same old, same old on these 'specials' nights, as so many do, will only reinforce why some ex fans in attendance left in the first place and mean no further visits down the line.. If you reduce your price then ensure you showcase your offer and WOW your customers with your overall service and operating model.. Otherwise you might as well not bother doing it..

When I spoke to him about the Overseas Final he was so disappointed in not qualifying that he didn't notice that he was a good way home after the meeting before he realised that he was driving in third gear! He appears quite happy with his achievements but realised that the family business needed his attention which is why he retired somewhat prematurely although he speaks highly of some of his team colleagues...Mike Lohmann in particular!

If there is it will come up on you tube just before 5pm - Eurosport Poland are showing the whole meeting live from 5pm- i will post the links later.

I Just can't see the straight-through exhaust being acceptable, from a noise perspective in many stadiums. As for capacity then any single cylinder from 250cc up would allow for racing that is fast enough and safe enough for the UK tracks. For UK speedway to survive it has to break away from what is happening on better tracks in Europe. Yes, call it Formula 2 speedway. What matters is the quality and excitement of on-track racing.

He simply doesn't miss a trick. No other promoters go on the BSF never mind trying to arrange a lift for one fan speaking on a thread totally unconnected with his club. It was something of that kind that turned me into an Isle of Wight advocate over 3 years ago and I have never had any reason to waver from that. I think you're right Truth is you have to call it as you see it. You might not always be right - and you are often not popular as I have found out several times - but at least you are being honest. Speedway is neither all positive or all negative, and never has been. There are good and bad points to every club and almost every meeting, and most if not all have more of one than the other. For that reason, - and as you have said - the posts of those who see just one side or the other lack credence and value and are almost always motivated by their own prejudice. To be fair to Trees, if she has a major role within the supporters club being critical is difficult simply because of how close she will be to the promotion.

You don't know what I think, there is a big wide world of speedway and there isn't anyone to replace Richie Worrall....bull...suits the cheats using rr ....fact.

Great to see Jaimon got 14 paid 15 at Krakow tonight. must be his best result in Poland well done Jaimon

eh steady on now. we let you win at your place so now you are in for a good spanking (we hope). a lot depends on our second strings and reserves. if they can nick a few points and stay on the bike then we are in with a shout. anyway come and enjoy a good evening in sunny stoke on trent and good luck to all the lads on both sides.

Respect a man that aided others in an attempt to close the club down is asking too much.

He looked pretty decent a couple of weeks ago when they thrashed us at home...

Pro active Customer engagement.. No surprise Barry... You seem to be on the front foot, and open minded to constructive feedback, whether good, bad or indifferent.. Hence your reputation amongst fans is at the level it is.. A bar height that others can aspire to..

I know that song! Doesn't it go " Godfrey has only got one ball, etc etc to "and Buster has no balls at all". Three tracks, but no idea that what he is laying before UK speedway fans is so far away from what they are interested in paying for. Unable to contemplate failure during his tenure, leads him to blunder blindly on with his Great Plan for the Reconstruction of UK speedway. Delusional and it will all end just like a deflated balloon. Cue - tears all round, on the terraces, in the offices and in those riders workshops ( staring at redundant rocketships ) of no use to anyone just scrap ( except to beginners abroad ). Beyond sad.

Quite right. Pavlova is a meringue-based dessert named after the Russian ballerina Anna Pavlova. Whereas Palovaara is a hill in Finland. Alright, I'll get my coat.

The main aim was over a 5yr plan, first and formost to make the sport more professional. 2nd was an attempt to bring more money in to keep the "star" men. 3rd was advertising 4th, maintaining existing supporters 5th, being attractive enough to encourage new fans. What's actually happened in the 20yrs of television is absolutely none of the above. In fact, from 1999 to today the sport in the uk has declined in horrendous fashion. Even die hards have given up and walked away, new millenia fans have come and gone. This sport in the UK is in serious need of a defibrillator