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I'm no fan of Miedinski but fair play to him, caused the crash and straight over to see how the other rider is. Complete contrast to Madsen.

Unlike the team that took that away from him of course

The only bad luck P'boro have had is Chapman taking over and ripping up the team to help strengthen his other two teams...

Also with his fellow countryman that he has just wiped out being loaded into an ambulance, Madsen is seen having a laugh with his mechanic and his major concern seems to be finding his sponsors cap when he sees the camera is on him.

Difficult not to get emotional seeing the great man like that ... and with his youngest grandson. Great to see him getting the sort of reception he deserves.

What was more disappointing for me was seeing Madsen waving to the crowd and smiling. Showing no concern for a fellow rider and countryman. Let's hope he is ok.

The british public don't want to go to speedway anymore. Cheaper admission would only be a short term fix. Once all of us old fogies have died off, its days as a professional sport will be over.

Speedway is not different, it just keeps telling itself it is, ignoring successful business tactics employed by all manners of businesses (including entertainment) and wonders why it continues to struggle. Your comments are indicative of why the sport is in the mess it is in the UK. Anyone with the slightest semblance of business knowledge would tell you that continually cutting the quality, whilst increasing the price will result in only one thing... and so it has come to pass.

Can't see a thread for this meeting so I will talk about it here... Tonight's meeting, although it started a bit disastrously, was great and it was a privilege to be able to visit Plymouth speedway where the racing (eventually) was brilliant... If that is what National League speedway is like then I think I will be making a few more trips to some National League meetings in the near future... I went to a Swindon meeting yesterday and I have to say, some of the fans around me were horrible to the riders and just in general... But at Plymouth everyone was chatty and seemed to enjoy themselves, considering the circumstances... I talked to a couple of Kent fans on the back straight who seemed pretty regular to Plymouth... So thanks to them for the help Even if yous did try to kill me with your flag pole at the beginning

Dickson hasn’t got an issue with it so I’m not sure why anyone else should have, least of all Edinburgh fans.

Our long tail is a worry , but I've seen young Australians take very well to the Scunthorpe track in the past , so young Connor Bailey might find things more to his liking than recent away tracks have . But it should be an entertaining encounter .

See you there mate

Don't agree with Glasgow's approach but I would blame Newcastle (who didn't bother using him after signing him) and Edinburgh (who dropped him) a lot more than Glasgow. If he was still in either team then he would still be earning a living.

We no longer pay any attention . Back to last night . Interesting meeting , Cook peerless as usual , backed up by Rasser and Starky . But the amount of last places is getting concerning . Young Connor is naturally finding life tough in the Championship, but you can see there is a rider there waiting to happen , I think we all know where the real problem is though . Leicester battled away , Douglas recovered from his very harsh exclusion in heat 3 and was superb after that . Harris was a decent guest and Connor Mountain filled his boots winning easy points against our lower order . Thankfully for Glasgow Nicholls had a bit of an off night . Once again heat 15 was a classic and I couldn't have argued if Harris got the nod for third , Leicester probably deserved a point

Nigel Voocock?

I've heard a "Vorney", and a "Voranee" so far.. Presume he isn't talking about the ex Yorkshire and England Captain..

Worroni is doing well tonight according to Sam.

That over the years has been a classic Miedinski move. Plenty have been fenced over the years with that move!

I can tell you what isn't a great advert for the sport. A referee turns up, does a track inspection and immediately demands extensive track work before any racing takes place. The first few heats are run and its clear that that hasn't been enough, with two teams wanting the meeting called off (according to the Isle of Wight facebook page). There is then a discussion between riders, team managers and the referee in which it is confirmed that further track work is needed. All the time this is happening those on the terraces are standing around waiting, probably wondering why they bother . That's not good enough, and what might be if it wasn't so is that this is from a promotion who angrily dismissed complaints about the state of the track that had been made after the Kent meeting, and were in flat denial that there was anything wrong at all. This after the absolute shambles against Leicester in mid June. Lets face it, Plymouth have gained a reputation here. I'd point out that it is rare for a referee to get involved in track preparation. If he does, it was that bad. It is very rare for NL riders (in contrast to Championship or Premiership competitors) to refuse to ride. Indeed, I am struggling to remember the last time they did it to this extent. What's also interesting are the scores from this meeting and the one the night before at Isle Of Wight. Plymouth were absolutely dominant, providing 13 heat winners and dropping just 4 points in 16 races. At Isle of Wight, they won just 3 races and Wallinger, Andrews and Extance scored 9 between them from 12 starts. I wonder what could have caused such a remarkable turn around ?

Show a bit of respect to a fellow rider. He wiped out the pair of them. Did not even bother to see how they were. Had time to wave to the crowd though!!!

Nice reception there for Per Jonsson.

Terrible looking crash, thoughts are with Thomsen at the moment.

Just keep the track wet and maybe one Somerset rider might not turn up

Nope, he’s saying Lynn is overprepared to start with on race night, I’ve commented on this before about riders hanging on to the bike and getting strung out because the track is too grippy and hard to ride. He’s saying people can race properly once it’s slickened off a bit. So from a punter’s point of view surely it would be better to start off a bit slicker.

In my line of work we continually cut prices and often have big 'price cut launches' which are planned well in advance.. These launches cover the full package. ie a great marketing and service plan, often with loyalty card recruitment at the heart of it, allied to an operating model structure that over the key first week of the campaign will see the stores at their very best and have plenty of colleague engagement with customers.. You get but one chance to make a first impression.. Which can become the lasting one too!! We don't however enter into price cutting without a detailed cost review that has to line up with any margin loss, as this would be financial suicide, therefore if any margin shortfall will be forecasted to result, and volume increase won't cover it, then the cost base is reduced accordingly to pay for the investment in price.. Speedway on the other hand, seems to have a 'build it and they will come' mentality... It needs much, much more than that.. As the NSS so acutely highlights.. Great racing, yet hardly any more fans than the dog bowl had.. Maybe some of the (literally) several millions of pounds that collectively all clubs will pay out in total to riders in a season (who 99% of the UK wouldnt have a clue who they are), could be better invested in a joined up, collective, national marketing campaign, driven by marketing professionals that might help improve Speedways 'brand recognition'..?

Our last three matches have been excellent, well matched teams producing great entertainment. Our league is largely good with the odd exception (Birmingham, Edinburgh ). What we dont want is to rescue the Premiership as its on its arse and have all the BS that comes with it. The CL doesnt need rescuing, is its own product and has a good mix of teams.

prob because he could not stand the constructive criticism as gazc would put it .!

The matches I have seen at Ashfield have been as good as it has ever been ,some cracking action on track even when no passing takes place.Well organised and well run set-up and good atmosphere.The sport is in difficult times though and needs a radical rethink.(doubtful),hard to say where it is going.

To put his ethos a bit more into perspective, he was at Plymouth last night. By the account I got, the referee ordered extensive track work before the meeting started. When it did, the surface was clearly still dangerous and further work was ordered (the Isle of Wight facebook page states two clubs wanted the meeting calling off). You can just imagine how some promoters would have taken the opportunity to put the boot into Plymouth (and, in truth, that would have been at least partly justified). I have it on good authority that Barry entertained children by giving them a taste of riding a speedway bike (albeit while it was standing still, there's a film on the Isle of Wight facebook page) chatted to spectators and assisted with the track work by manning a tractor. More power to his elbow

Is the limit crazy ? Teams in this league need to cut their cloth accordingly. Should Cook, Masters, Worrall, Schlein etc be allowed in this league Strengthen up the premiership and create this championship to a level where no one over 7.50 is in this league. Then let teams race in the league that suits them Do not have a team total in top league as money ( lack of ) will prevent it getting too strong. Joe Lawlor et al will develop but no body gains from a personal or a sport or a spectator point of view of a meeting in which the number 1s race against the 5th to 7th average rider in a team. drastic but speedway is broken in all countries and someone needs to change direction and fast

Don't like Poole. But isn't it their choice to run RR or a guest.

I don't think the argument between upright and laydown engines is the beginning of the sports demise as such. It's purely mythical and coincidental. It's more the materials / improved technology used that has increased speeds and reliability of the first laydown. As it was then far superior to the old upright in tech / material, other engine manufacturers acted like sheep and copied. Human nature does this in all walks of life. Look at houses, cars, mobile phones etc etc. Someone comes up with an idea, everyone else copies. If a modern engine supplier produces an upright today, it would 100% perform just as well as a laydown so the current problem actually doesn't go away. First and foremost, in my opinion, the FIM should bring the engine capacity down from 500cc to 450cc and allow straight through / silencer exhaust system.

Despite the meeting at Redcar being rained off this evening it wasn't a totally wasted 2 hour journey. I was handed a survey/ questionnaire on the sport which shows that some one / promoter ? does care what the fans think. (Something we tried at other tracks in past seasons) This site won't let me down load a photo ( too large?) so I'll type it out on here as I was only just discussing these surveys on another thread. Are you a Bears supporter? Are you a visiting supporter? Is this your first speedway meeting? Is this your first season? How many years have you been a speedway supporter Where did you first hear about speedway? Tv, radio, from a friend, poster,. Have you seen a Bears poster at your workplace? What, if anything, could be done to improve your experience at a speedway meeting? Each completed form was to be entered into a prize draw if details supplied. Just goes to show someone out there is trying to listen. Well done Redcar Speedway.

The Pavlova collapsed

Oops I've repeated similar to you ....

See you tomorrow! Should be a great match, given our home form and your away form!

Really hope this is on , love going down to Scunthorpe, love the racing there

Just block the moron. I just have

He’s having enough trouble with Woryna! We’ve had a couple of Pearson’s “very much so” from Dave Rowe

Before that Baggy, Nielsen was riding one in the 93 World Final. Still Nielsen fans who claim there wasn't 'enough contact' to cause a fall!

Don't take it so personally, wouldn't like to even guess at how many freebies Glasgow promotion have given away in the last few years and to be honest it's a pity a crystal ball wasn't available to them as I'm sure it would have reaped better rewards if it had been meetings like the last few that newbies were watching. Also I'm sure they got a bit annoyed when regular supporters used them as if it was a bonus.

Last night we had 2 equally matched teams with the racing from the top drawer, if not higher, and people are going on about what should happen with riders and averages. We should be trying to emulate whats happened at Glasgow trackwise at other tracks. Good exciting racing has resulted in good enthusiastic crowds with riders getting standing ovations and that includes opposition riders as well. Then you watch the dross that appears on BT, the Facennas must be wondering what they are doing wrong.

Common sense and BSPA your kidding.

Peterborough have spent the majority of those past 20 years racing in the top flight of British Speedway, granted theres been a few different owners over the years but two of them gave there fans the Elite League title with some top class riders, good racing and with plenty of entertainment thrown in coupled with the satisfaction of being twice the best speedway club in the country, so whos actually had the best of those past 20 years in the long run. Of course its all changed now for sure

That’s all great but don’t take it out on somebody who enjoys going. If you are criticising her for only being positive when you are exactly the same in only ever being negative. I assume when you refer to only two positives you mean in promoting terms as you don’t mention the fact that we have arguably the best speedway track in the world in this country.

We get plenty of ridicule for having a differing opinion. It's open to all. When in my case, one man has destroyed my love of going home and away watching the Stars this 'all things rosy in the garden' angers me. Buster is in full control of King's Lynn and Peterborough and it ain't particularly going well is it? Fortunately for Ipswich, Chris Louis made sure he remains in control of all things Ipswich otherwise we'd of more likely than not had a melt down their too from fans. Buster is single handedly driving many many more away from the sport than brining them in through the turnstiles. I just don't see where the positives are in Speedway under his control. Under his tenure the future is declining at a rapid speed. There are just 2 positives in British Speedway right now and they're either end of the UK in Glasgow and Isle of Wight.

In some ways I admire Trees for her unwavering support for Lynn, but I think her views would be taken more seriously if she did occasionally notice some of the negatives.

Therein lies the problem, I wasn't talking about the few on the forum. It is the many who no longer attend, for many reasons. This type of attitude, the club is right and the fans are talking through their proverbial, is the main cause of the problem. It is because of this type of attitude that the gate has fallen to the level that it is. I remember a prominent voice on here, saying, if they don't like what is offered don't come, well that is exactly what has happened. I might add, as for the 'BEGGING BOWL' if the customer does not like the product, it simply does not buy it

How about, 'Palomino', with a yellowy-white mane and might have a decent gait ?

Just had good chat with the ex Robin at local m&s cafe. Said Fundin was his hero, Briggo best he rode with, and Mauger best he rode against. Recalled a match in 1970 at Wembley, riding at 2 with Briggo, got two 5-1s then Fundin split them. Doesn't go now, even though he's got free ticket.. Friendly geezer.