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Just returned home from another trip to EOS I sincerely hope you stay in top league next year.Great stadium and viewing and a track as good as any even the much heralded NSS.All the best for next season.

You are making a lot of assumptions in what you have said. In recent years the hierarchy of The Showground has changed from the times when I used to deal with them a decade ago, so I can't speak about the current management team, but my assumption will be that the practicalities of running Speedway at the venue will not have changed very much, if at all. Speedway pays significant rent to the venue. I don't know what the amount is these days, but when I was promoter it was, I felt, jaw dropping. It is considerable over a season. The Speedway club are also not allowed to bring their own concessions (catering) on to the venue, so the Speedway clubs income is restricted to admissions and the sale of programmes only. Speedway comes a long way back in the queue of the events held at the Showground and that's only rightly so, it is a business after all - actually it's not, it's a charity. Effectively you pay rent for the key to open and close the place, you get little or no help from them in putting the event on or clearing up after. The Showground is not a charity (actually it is, but you probably get my drift). The Speedway staff volunteers do an absolutely amazing (and thankless) job in getting the place ready for Speedway and clearing it up afterwards, it takes a monumental amount of effort and I mean monumental and these people are the real heroes of the Speedway club. The Showground does not 'plug' the back end or keep Speedway 'afloat'. They provide a key. A very expensive one at that. The one thing Speedway does do for the Showground is provide an event for LOCAL people. Practically every other event at the Showground is supported in the majority by people who live outside of Peterborough. Not everyone locally owns a Shire Horse, Truck or Modified Car or wants to pitch a tent a couple of miles from their home and there are only so many times you can drag yourself along to Truckfest. The 'dirty shale arena' gets plenty of use from other events, often these events damage the track and fence, which additionally costs the Speedway club to put right. If other events use the floodlights - which the Speedway club paid for and installed - and a light fuses, the Speedway club has to pay for this to be replaced as well.

Better racing at Brough than you get down in Redcar... I'm sorry Just my opinion... You just need some balls to ride Brough... Where Redcar is gate, wind it on and go...

Poole fans up in arms that Porsing isnt riding lol.................the same Poole fans who didnt like other fans accusing them when Wells went missing for Poole ...whilst banging in a maximum for Edinburgh I feel for Poole in this match everything has gone against them....... No MPT makes Lynn much stronger R/R for Jorgensen makes Lynn much stronger Chris Harris will probably get an 18 point maximum No Porsing and Lynn have brought in a reserve likely to score double figures... Come on neutral fans we need to have a heart here and get the message out there.............#prayforpoole

He might of been dejected, so was I watching him score nothing again.

I've said before - my main issue with your many many posts usually on Poole threads is that they are simply repetitive - over and over and over again saying the same old stuff. Sometimes you have something valuable to say which is why you are not on ignore - but you don't need to keep on saying it. Once is often enough - for everyone.

Yes it would be a remarkable achievement if we were to retain the title this season. Certainly massive underdogs against those two teams. We should see off Ipswich but that’s about it. Every speedway fan bar the other teams fans would be cheering us on to a shock win as we are the underdogs this season.

Harris guesting swings it Lynns way completely. But it’s fair enough. Swindon got the luck this time around with Proctor. Be interesting to see if they do chose us or Ipswich.

Yes its tragic really so if Eastbourne are finally looking at re-instating then all the better. I guess the change in modern times though is that the youth rounds are raced upon the regular circuits so riders are looking to practice upon the same. That said i believe Iwade & Scunthorpe operate the policy of getting laps in on the smaller tracks and learning techniques before progressing to the main tracks.

Poole fan was it ?

Conveniently forgetting the other 6 times Poole have finished top....And WON the play offs!!

can't believe they didn't contact you before arranging it - disgaceful

Already committed to watching the Europa League I reckon.

McDonald or one his farmyard Animals at 7 won’t have any affect on the score. Lynn to take this one by 10 plus. McD0nald. The same as P0rsing

At least Wells had a injury , one meeting left and Porsing has quit yeah right!

That absolutely was the case and was used in addition to the seasonal bucket collection as our contribution to the SBRF.

You don't have to speak to 100 to get 99% .24.75 is 99% of 25. To be clear I have no idea how many were spoken to but you do not need to speak to 100 to get a percentage of 99%.

Ignore. He’s clearly uneducated.

And neither do the play off matches so its max all the way now for Bomber. Big money and no harm to that nice low average....

Good. He is rubbish.

Harris makes them much stronger than Proctor, the point is if they had a better guest than Proctor it would have made it far more difficult for Swindon. Not saying we can't win but much harder for us than it was for Swindon

Just in case Shovlar wasnt sure Kings Lynn 40-50 Poole..............Poole win at Lynn despite TJ scoring 9+1 and MPT getting 7+2 , Poole were able to win Kings Lynn 41-49 Poole...........Poole win at Lynn despite TJ scoring 7 and MPT getting 12, Poole were able to win Yet somehow Lynn are favourites missing these two lol

A narrow win on aggregate for the Budgies i recon but this could be a tough evening.Even with Belle Vue having a disappointing season the aces are still an attractive team to watch with Fricke, Bewley,Lidsey, Etheridge all riders i like and will more and likely be the core of there 2020 line up.

No way will points limit be 38 as it has been a disaster. This league will revert back to 42.5 or 40 points at the minimum.

Ben Duffill quoted in the Teesside Gazettte today. Broc Nichol in to replace Nathan Greaves for both play off meetings against Leicester (the Bates Family are being very generous loaning us their Sheffield asset) Plus 3 quality No 1's offered their services to replace MPT. Ben Thinks we are making a positive out of a negative following the horrific crash at Newcastle. Just need a reasonable 2 pointer to replace Tom Woolley to make the 7 up. DON'T WRITE US OFF YET LEICESTER......

Bomber guesting for KL

Just couldn't help myself, still defending my beloved Comets , but like ruffdiamond , I'd rather be watching speedway at Rough park than have none at all , sadly

If Ellis chooses to ride in the CL next season he will have plenty of offers on his current average, likewise Aarnio so if Brum can land them it would show serious intent. Given the averages i can see only one of Ash Morris, Shanes or Paco featuring and whilst i think the smart choice is Morris i suspect Brum will go for Shanes. I suspect there will be a riot if either Agertoft or Thomsen are signed. Garrity is a strange one as he is a handful in multiple ways and normally Rogers prefers riders who are easier to deal with but he clearly has a soft spot for Jason. Either way with the full winter to plan there will be no excuses for a poorly built team in 2020.

Before anyone else says it.... 13... without double letter/word or triple letter/word scores.

little track like they used to have at Arlington returning is a great move by the Dugards (Martin and Connor) and Cook and should be a real boost for the sport and riders in the South East and the club. Got to be an advantage too to have a separate Training track like they had and will have. That saves the main track from over-wear and over use like we see at Leicester.

So, only the numbers involved have changed, if this turns out to be the case. Fixed nights for PL matches will continue to strangle UK speedway. Not enough customers want those nights and are prepared to turn up and pay. But Hey Ho, why let that spoil a "good plan". Unless televised matches are to be a tenner or less to watch in the stadium there is no point in showing a moribund sport.

At least, some riders can still manage to get the bike round it,,,, unlike some other tracks

do tell more , IF YOU CAN ! i know speedway is corrupt in many ways , but to tell a rider NOT to score a lot of points when he is guesting for another club is crazy . i do remember one rider @ a certain club lowering his average for the following season and when the following season came around. he could not get out of the habit and he is still doing it . speedway corrupt , NEVER !

A contract next season

Doesnt that tell you something Lisa.

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Didn't he ride for Wolverhampton? Or was that James Bond?

Harris makes Lynn stronger than Ty, that's true. If Lynn had a better guest against Swindon It would of made it harder for the Robins. But " Harris guesting swings it Lynn's way completely" Is testicles imo. He is referring to Lynn v Poole, How is Bomber better at Lynn than MPT (ave 7.44 at home)

You would deprive us of once again witnessing the scintillating racing your track purveys?

So just Paul fans then, half wit troll.

Somerset; Edinburgh; Scunthorpe; Leicester - Glasgow would have better chance with Rasmus and Claus Vissing IF Cook in strop mode again..

Absolutely correct. Riders don’t turn up to play safe and come through unscathed. They turn up to score as many points as possible. More points - more money. All meetings are the same.

Awful day. I was at Rye House when they announced the news. It was amazing that he made such a good recovery, thanks to the skill of the surgeons and of course Erik's fighting spirit.

Well I enjoyed the meeting tonight. Quite surprised there was no grading during the meeting.

Anyway if the deal is done we simply have to live with the consequences and after a year of potentially crazy scheduling and huge gaps in coverage, meetings being joined when 80% over and the prospect in future years of SGP fighting for a place on Saturday night's schedules again we'll be able to say this time next year. "Well, only four more years". It can be such a lovely sport but to be honest, it gets what it deserves through its short-termism and general stupidity of those allegedly running it. It's like asking your backstreet car dealer to front up a Maclaren dealership in Mayfair ;-)

The Showground gets an awful lot of stick from a lot of angles and I don't believe thats fair at all... they allow a dirty shale arena to sit smack bang in the middle of their events space all year round for the sake of what 20 / 30 evenings a year? - not even days, evenings... When they open the gates and deal with complaints from the local area (not just the houses at the showground, but the ortons, alwalton, wistow etc) when they run late in the evening, paying for security on the gates and around the area, they get a slice of what, 400-500 spectators? I dont know what the arangement is, but I feel pretty confident in thinking that the speedway does not make money for the showground. Take the 4 week camping festival (actually 2 different festivals) that caused a long break in the fixtures for us - that event would have made more for the showground in 4 weeks than the speedway could make in years... but they are to be moaned at because people prefer to hold a camping exhibition in the summer? Nonsense. The showground should say "No thankyou mr big event, I cannot have you here for 4 weeks solid (not including the week before and after setting up) because we have a minority sport that needs to run 3 meetings (unless of course it rains) for 600 people... Nonsense. If the showground did not host these types of events, there would be no showground and therefore no speedway. I think its about time people stopped throwing mud at the people that are keeping this whole mess afloat and start looking closer to home as to why it is all falling apart. If Peterborough Panthers pulled in a crowd of 4-5000 people, every week, then we wouldnt have to worry about dates for fixtures or whether the stadium would be there in 5 years time. The fact of the matter is that the product being offered is weaker than ever before and people just arent buying it. Sell more tickets - have more clout. Until then, stop beating up the guys that are plugging the back end.

Danyon or Nathan would be an improvement on Agertoft

Not sure of the point you're trying to make but it's not rocket science to say that there is only one answer to your question. Even if that is because the only way to get the standard that you want to watch is by being a functioning club. As for being mad, everyone else knew what Peterborough was like running at the Showground (although the EoES does appear to have been less than helpful in 2019 - whether fact or fiction only the inner circle know) and everyone knows what not to do so as not to lose the crowd. Home fixtures apart, much of the rest was self inflicted before a wheel was turned and then the bad luck that all teams get just couldn't be compensated for with a weak team. That's the way to lose money. Unfortunately it's pretty clear that the lower tier drop beckons again, never to resurface from those depths, because that's the only way not to potentially lose shedloads unless the EoES plays ball with regular weekly dates, and there's more chance of Jo Swinson saying something intelligent than that happening.

Bad management and bad luck has nothing to do with the top league. Given the time limited life for speedway at the EoES who's going to buy out Chapman? If running speedway at the EoES is like chucking money down the bog then who's going to invest knowing that the initial investmest isn't coming back either?

Danyom Hume is worth a punt at reserve on 3.27 IMO. Bit erratic bit but certainly quick.