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as ever Racers and Royals, thanks for all the info

This, of course, reopens the whole starting procedure debate. I'm sure I'm not the only one to have recently watched some quite old matches. Seeing riders charging the tapes, rolling back and forth, lead to some awful starts, uneven and even unfair. The overall rules governing starts in Poland and Britain are the same. But it is quite clear watching Polish meetings that the rules are more stingently applied in Poland. And guess what? Riders sit still, in a straight line and starts are rarely unsatisfactory. It's only human nature. Riders will muck about and push the envelope if there is a chance of getting away with it. Reduce that chance and you seeing better behaviour at the tapes. Not perfect, but better. The increase in power given to the starting marshall is also to be applauded. How many times have you watched meetings over here where the starting marshall might as well not be there? The riders ignore him where they can. Give him some real teeth, as they appear to have in Poland, and all of sudden the riders do as they are told. (the exception is when riders are called to the tapes - even in Poland, they come forwaard when they are good and ready). And even the flying starts seem to be reduced. Again not eliminated but reduced. Could it be that riders are conscious that they can be given a warning even after the race have an effect? I know the "Free for all" side of this argument won't agree, but I think we can learn from watching the experience in Poland.

We move on to round 5 next Friday/ Sunday Friday July 10th Rybnik v Leszno programme start time 4.45pm 1st race 5pm Eleven Sport 1 and Freesports(5pm) Friday July 10th Wroclaw v Grudziadz programme start time 7.15pm 1st race 7.30pm Eleven Sport 1 and Premier Sport 1(7.30pm) Sunday July 12th Czestochowa v Lublin programme start time 3pm 1st race 3.30pm N Sport and Premier Sport 2(3.30pm) Sunday July 12th Zielona Gora v Gorzow programme start time 5.45pm 1st race 6.15pm N Sport and Premier Sport 1 ( delayed ) 12.45am Monday 13th

I'm sure the government don't pay that much for jobseekers allowance.

It seems its a default answer though that when someone asks a reasonable enough question, the reply is normally ask or contact the club. Other clubs have either refunded season ticket money or giving their season ticket holders alternative offers, or at the very least put out a statement. It shouldnt be asking to much for Berwick Speedway to make some kind of statement for those of us who have bought tickets, much better IMO to let everyone know whats happening rather than answering individual emails surely, or maybe an email could be sent to all season ticket holders, after all the club should have our email addresses.

Surely the Club should issue a statement though.?

Good afternoon to all. The promotion at Newcastle would like to make a statement through the Supporters group in regard to the current rumours and to hopefully help people stop worrying about our situation at Brough. Due to the covid 19 pandemic and for the benefit of greyhound racing at Newcastle there had been talk of staging greyhound racing on a Sunday and live streaming into bookies. This had been talked about for a bit and would of been more then just for a short term period, moving us onto the only other day available at the stadium, a Monday. Thankfully the greyhounds have opted out of Sunday racing and have decided on taking their extra meeting mid week now. This was advised to us yesterday, Saturday. One issue we do have at the moment is with exception of a handful of track staff and a racing manager, all office and grandstand staff are furloughed till later in the year and the main grandstand areas are all locked down, which for speedway are very much needed to operate. We have put a proposal to the stadium in regard to the grandstand and are waiting for a reply. We will update you all as soon as we can. Many thanks.

TERRIFIC obituary on Maurice by Peter Oakes, who knew him well and worked alongside him at times, in SS this week. Well worth a read.

The point is that is the norm for Polish speedway starts and it works. The start marshall and the referee are connected by headsets and in Poland every rider must have his front wheel right up to the tape and every rider( especially gate 4) must be lined up straight. So the start marshall was doing his job- the ref was doing his job and it works because in Poland there are very few races stopped for unsatisfactory starts.

We move on to tomorrow. Sunday July 5th Wroclaw v Zielona Gora programme start time 3pm 1st race 3.30pm N sport and Box Nation (SKY 427)(3.25pm) Sunday July 5th Grudziadz v Leszno programme start time 5.45pm 1st race 6.15pm N sport and Box Nation ( 6.10pm) race cards Wroclaw v Zielona Gora page 43 https://wts.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/program050720.pdf Grudziadz v Leszno pages 18 and 19 https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:069bdd93-3fa2-4e78-8075-cf7847e166d1 Links http://spedway.ucoz.lv/ http://www.maniak.tv/mk7 http://www.drhtv.com.pl/drhtv-4.html https://daddylive.live/embed/stream-25.php

Is the guy in the chip shop swears he’s ELVIS.

If you told me the info came from Jeremy Beadle, I would believe you John On the point of the statement from NSSC, does it not show that the promotion maybe look at the forum?,,, something that may have been fround upon in the past?

It looks like you have no clue about Polish speedway . They can run meeting with no paying public

TV Money like our Premier football

Of course a bargain, unless of course you are earning polish wages or have to pay for flights and hotels

You would think so, other clubs have.

Lovely day in Grudziadz

Finland - best source is http://www.speedway.fi/etusivu.php for further info you might try f-s-p on here, I've always found him very helpful. Ukraine - has no league. Most of their meetings are at Rivne. Their website is: http://speedway-rivne.at.ua/ I also recommend http://gorka-speedway.blogspot.co.uk/ (another BSF member) Slovenia - has no league and only half a dozen or so meetings in total. A 2019 league was proposed, but collapsed after a couple of fixtures. I think your best bet is the facebook account https://www.facebook.com/Speedway-Slovenija-358894047895931 (it is mainly filled with Polish news, but that is a reflection on how little there is to report) Slovakia - use Zarnovica's website http://www.speedwayclub.sk/ (the only track in Slovakia). The smf website http://www.smf.sk/plocha-draha-vysledky/ contains results and the Czech website http://www.speedwaya-z.cz/ gives full coverage of Slovak events Russia - http://speedway-press.ru/ gives pretty much complete coverage and the Russian speedway forum http://russpeedway.info/forum/ usually contains the mfr oficial scoresheets Italy - another one where facebook is the best source. Try: https://www.facebook.com/GPARacingSpeedway/ Norway - I struggle with Norway, facebook is probably your best bet https://www.facebook.com/groups/766676793459478/?hc_ref=ARR78gRM-WQSvMQ2CNAt-HsFt2_kPgyMio20H4jrKdSqthtJxYoIqvoN6se6pUhp-uQ&ref=nf_target Germany - I use various sources http://www.svg-veranstalter.de/Startseite/ http://www.speedway-forum.de/ (the German Speedway forum has excellent international coverage to), and the official German Federation has a results archive https://www.dmsb.de/active/motorradsport/bahnsport/ Unfortunately aktuellspeedway.se seems to have given up the ghost. Like sportowefakty it prided itself on speed of reporting at the expense of accuracy but it was very comprehensive. If you want anything specific, message me - I have a very comprehensive set of 2019 resuts culled from these and other sources

It was actually mentioned during Polish speedway meeting, that there was going to be a practice session at Berwick

Seeing your a Leicester fan probably explains your entertainment from last nights fiasco, having to watch that dross week in week out has clearly affected your judgement.

Lets hope this is the year Lambo kicks on. He's looking very good.

I visited Charles in his office once. Alongside being in a business meeting with Ivan Mauger it counts as one of my most memorable moments in the sport. I can't bring myself to watch the drone footage. I lost my track at the age of 16. It still stings. Keep fighting while you still have one brick to save. Once lost they don't come back.

I thought Lambo looked sharp in the SEC yesterday - and he tops the table. Hope he gets to ride for KL this season as he has also started well in the Polish league.

Terrible race track, most of the time I couldnt believe I was watching a meeting fro Torun. Processional racing after first half lap a lot of the time. Good to see NP up there with them still. Madsen at times showed his true skills, but the star of the night was Robert Lambert, now I can see how the injuries carried into last year were holding him back, hop he can keep up the good form. Zmarzlick, well he was going to win it or be an also ran. Lets face it, he was the wild card, probably not going to be in any other rounds, therefore no chance of winning the title, so why bust a gut. He did what he did and got some practice in against a field of (mostly) top guys. Disappointing one was Gregory Laguta - impressive when on form, which he was not.

Disappointingly poor Toruń track. If I was involved with OneSport, I'd be having a strong word with the track team there, to ensure they make a much better job of it for the final round at the end of the month. No real excuses. They've had 10 months to get it right.

"Coventry Drone" ? That's no way to talk about Peter York!

Fans in Poland don`t though because they know there are very few race starts called back as the riders know they cannot mess about !!!!

If it's over 500metres, back the favourite

Don’t think season ticket holders are expecting News to turn up on this forum.Nobody has said that.!!!! .It has been intimated that some have been informed and some haven’t.If that is the case it’s not good enough.

One problem with british speedway is they assume that every Brit is earning big money or even average wage money and that isn’t the case and certainly not the case with your average speedway fan, but anyway the world not just Britain is going to have to tighten their belts in the coming years as we fall into a very deep recession and speedway must be proactive in its approach and that goes for both sides of the safety fence

The pricing is low because the wages in Poland are low.If you want to pay less to get into speedway ask the UK government to lower wages in the country and low and behold everything will probably be cheaper, even speedway. That is why if you lok. at Denmark everything is more expensive as you also earn more. Nothing to do with getting the price right

We went to gdansk v Toruń a couple of years ago, the meeting was a non event but the atmosphere was something else and we went to falubaz and it was a last heat decider and you couldn’t hear the bikes on the start line for the noise of the crowd

Depending on track and where you sit but about £10 I’ve paid as little as £4 for a play off meeting and I think I paid £9 at leszno

Think "Trees" is a she (if we can still use gender pro nouns), and follows Kings Lynn, so watches the gate and go fest in the clay at Saddlebow Road's stock car track..

Love the way they have stuck Holders head onto the image of Iversen for the captions. Think Woffy and Magic will bring this one home.

This is speedway not chess...

And he has won exactly the same number of individual World Titles as every Polish rider who has ever ridden since the sport began...

Not too exciting is it ......

Nice to see Noddy riding well while playing catch-up. Was like the old Pirates days in the last one.

What a ride by woffinden! world class

Graham Jones (the first one by the way not the 1980's/90's Stoke and Wolves rider!) had his first League rides for Boston in the early 70's before going to ride long distance for Berwick for many years so wasn't completely a one club man!

You do wonder if this isn't just a Covid crisis development, and this regular schedule of televised Monday meetings is an attempt to take Mondays off British speedway long-term. If this meeting was being staged in normal times with Britain properly up and running I can see quite a few names that would be expected to be in Britain on a Monday. It's a question of trust.......and I've lost mine where Polish speedway's concerned ;-)

As long as Gave Goddard tells them it`s round 4 it will be alright.

I find it great entertainment... I suggest you make yourself a bingo card and sit down with your dobber in your hand and mark off all the different ways to mangle up Woryna's name... Verona, Veroyni, Veroni I always wonder how he introduces himself... probably just Sam, to be safe

The track was terrible especially early doors when Red won pretty much as it liked. It really is about time these big events were given too tracks who can provide a decent race track, it says all when the event winner slates the surface as super slick. Its fairly obvious that to produce a slick surface is easy but a racing track that provides different racing lines is more difficult, I have attended Torun for GP,s in the past and it’s been excellent in previous meetings so it can be done. It would also have been better (for the spectators) if we had a referee who could actually see officiating at these meetings and a commentator who doesn’t always talk incessant garbage. Ermolenko was a very good rider but he is a crap commentator, please let Rowe and Goddard do it.

Very sad to see, Im afraid the Grandstand needs a fortune spending on it to bring it back to something fit for purpose, the back straight stand much less so, the other out buildings also need lots of money spending on them, i doubt very much if we will ever see Brandon return as a sporting venue unless someone wins the Euro Lottery, the Grandstand needs demolishing, probably some of the outbuildings also, which would leave the pits area and back straight stand remaining before any sport could take place.

Brilliant yet also very sad footage, some skillful dronemanship, I visited Coventry a few times so many good memories. Can anyone indicate where Charles Ochiltree's office was, this was considererd a real inner sanctum and few were permitted entry....

First off its kept the Speedway banter going and secondly if it does happen you can say well the fat lad was right... and if it doesn't well it's filled a couple of pages where we have been in the limelight Regards THJ

You're no oil painting yourself

needs to be run very much along the lines of IOW and the holiday makers they target