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That wasn't Janowski's misfortune. That was a mistake that the rider made. Tragic really

What is? The World Cup returns in 2023 and will held every three years. The Speedway Of Nations will still operate in the other seasons. Can't believe the moaning on here. GB win for the first time in 32 years and people still find something to moan about.

Would that include Your anti Poole/Paul prejudice.

As neither the BSPL Chairman or Vice-Chairman thought the biggest speedway event held in Britain this year worthy of their attendance, it’s no wonder that the belated press release - nearly 14 hours after the event was completed - gets it wrong. Having overseen the near collapse of the NDL, the league that was one of the things that helped all four of the GB riders find their way in the sport, they should now bow their heads in shame and walk away. The disastrous last few years, with problems accelerated rather than caused by Covid has shown that vested interest in decision making is dragging British speedway down the road to ruin. The new GB Team operation shows what can be done with skill, initiative, forward planning and total commitment. They deserve to be supported by people who understand about sport at the highest level and what it takes to be successful.

... Or just ask the forums... better than Google!

Yes, that is why we are talking about Plymouth!

A Polish post- translated It was supposed to be £ 15, just like every game against Glasgow, but due to Poland and the huge difference in the exchange rate (for us it would be PLN 80!), The price for such an event was reduced to only £ 5 (about PLN 25), so it was very cheap as for most PPV. And the spectacle promises to be quite big, the track is fantastic, and the competitors, even though it is a social competition, will go all the way because this is the last competition and the equipment does not need to be spared. Champions with runners-up. Presentation with both anthems before the game. I invite you to the last transmission of SPEEDWAY in 2021. Additionally, you will be able to choose a commentary in English with Pearson or Polish with Tomasz Lorek!

Well I have paid £15 to watch it. I suspect it’s cheaper then paying to see “live”, and as I live 200 miles away I can sit in my comfy chair as well. Supporters on here say British Speedway is not worth paying £20 to see 15 minutes of “entertainment”. So what would they pay to see top class world champions…. I counting 7 (maybe more) between the two teams.. that is including under 21, team/pairs, individual. £15 too much.!

What about Bob, Cyril,and Bert Roger

Don,t want proctor or Alitt.

GB were worthy winners,but all this criticism of Janowski is pathetic,he is total World class made a small error and suddenly he is useless and a bottler.Get a grip. Did Tai not make a small error on the 1st day. Anyway ,best wishes to Tai for speedy recovery.

100%. The NDL is needed... However, the level they now run at is far too far away from the next level above... Meaning the jump needed is too far... Therefore they need to decide whether to dilute the level above or increase the standard of the NDL by bringing in more experienced lads from the middle tier.. Personally, for me, the whole structure should be based on an "Elite" League which you use to 'sell the sport', ten x five man teams with say 3 squad riders on stand by for injuries, so no guests, and then a league of "Championship Lite/NDL Plus" for all the rest, where you can run the RS system, having these lads as part of the "Elite" squads' list so they can come in to replace missing riders, with an aim to gain themselves a permanent team place if they do better than the man they replaced..

Agree, Tom has lost almost two years so far so this season is really his first full year out of the NDL

Google? How does that work then?

What you say about Woffy, Lambert and Bewley is true (and you can add that much of British champion Adam Ellis' formative experience was on French grasstrack). BUT To survive British speedway needs to produce its own riders. The NDL plays a vital role in ensuring that we have the second strings of the future. Without the NDL to provide opportunities to learn would riders like Paul Starke, Danyon Hume, Alfie Bowtell and Simon Lambert still be in the sport?

Woffy spent his formative years in Oz, riding very regularly out there to launch his career and came over here well advanced in his development for his age level.. Robert Lambert spent his early years learning his craft riding regularly in German racing as he couldn't get permission to race in GB due to his age. And Dan Bewley was one of those riders who crossed over from another bike discipline and finds he is a "natural" on a Speedway bike, so would have made it through sheer natural ability regardless of age and opportunities to race, (similar to someone like John Louis).. A simple fact is that riders of their natural talent, (like so many riders who reach the top levels), would have "made it" anyway given whatever route they took.. A bit tenuous to suggest it's any big influence from the NDL.. Tom, (who doesnt seem to be quite at the same level at this stage of his development that those other three were at the same stage), looks like someone who has benefited from riding in the NDL, as he has made solid incremental progression, but, (like the others), it was the "old NDL" where he got the chance to ride against better more experienced competitors... Not sure that someone starting out today, and are similar in ability to where Tom was, would get the same development given they wont be getting stretched the same.. I would suggest Woffy and the Team who took over running "Team Great Britain" have been far more influential in the success of this weekend....

I think I posted just before Dave Jones did.

Were GB lucky ? Yes, to an extent, on this occasion, but you need at least some good fortune to succeed. Peeps seem forget for years most GB team managers mostly didn't play with a full deck, literally. Joking aside over a longish period (2000 or so on) the GB squad was made up from the likes of Scott Nicholls, the late Lee Richardson, Mark Loram, Chris Louis, Carl Stonehewer, Joe Screen, Gary Havelock, David Norris, Sean Wilson, Simon Stead, Chris Harris, Tai Woffinden, the list goes on - a squad to kick serious behind on any track. But at any one time at least one or two of them were on the injured list. In recent years Woffinden was unavailable (his business, it happened) and was also out injured, unfortunately two of the remaining riders (Cook & Lambert) collided like Sweden did on the Friday night; effectively game over. When Woffinden also crashed out on Friday nite I thought, said and texted "oh no, not again !". But the next nite a ready-made replacement squad member stepped in; "Dan Bewley come on down and prepare for the meeting of your life !", and we all saw what happened. The remaining 3 stepped up, took the opportunities that occured, rode their hearts out, delivered - and how. Ok, Bewley rode his home track & the other 2 were at least familiar with Belle Vue NSS, but it was the same for everyone of course and the Poles in particular must have been rubbing their hands with glee on seeing the track; a Polish-style circuit in the UK. With due respect to the experienced GB riders, it was still possible for any them to suiffer falls, crash out big-style, tape exclusions, machine problems, etc, we all know what can happen in speedway, especially after witnessing their captain and leader get ruled out by a well-nasty crash. When Woffinden recovers + add Lambert, Bewley, Brennan and the likes of Drew Kemp, Leon Flint, The Thompson Twins, etc waiting in the wings the future for GB looks a heck of lot better than of late. This is our time right now, we have waited long enough, enjoy it is my advice, for next year everyone starts all over again. One last point: the GP series carries accumulated points scored through the season, replacing the one-off World Finals of old, yet the current SON format guarrantees a 'winner takes all race', like a one-off World Final....

Doubt it, clash of race night, but as one Roo boy leaves perhaps another’s coming in.

That's a bad injury for an 18y/o, never mind an embryo.

Bore off. For God's sake some are just never happy. We are world champions if you can't enjoy that then sport (Any Sport) isn't for you.

Speedway fans really will moan about anything.

Agree totally with Gordon P here! Sadly, in it's current guise there isn't any real prospect of British Speedway going anywhere but even further downhill (not that it can sink much further). Yes, there are some good people with the right intentions currently serving as promoters - but the last 2 Chairs aren't/weren't fit for purpose internally and more importantly externally. But until the majority of promoters finally agree that we need an independent body running the sport domestically, then there is no real hope for change. Let's give Rob Painter and his team the accolades they deserve today though!

I couldn’t have said it better myself..I left the meeting today thinking blimey that was good and then I read the forum !….speedway at top level racing wise has actually never been better in my opinion , or at least from the 70’s onwards which is when I have watched from.

Hi, I've been away from speedway since Rye House closed. I recently attended a few meetings at Peterborough including the play off semi and Final. I was just wondering if anyone could give me a brief catch up as to what's happened in the last 8 years or so in British speedway? Why are there only 6 teams in the top tier? Is it worth running a league with so few teams in it? 4 out of 6 teams make the play offs and could all potentially "win the league". My son who is just about to turn 16 and hadnt been since he was about 6 found that concept laughable and more than a bit ridiculous. He absolutely loved the racing though, proving that the raw product is still awesome. How did Poole end up back in the 2nd tier? They were the best supported team in the country! How did it end up that the same riders are all riding in both of the top divisions regularly? Massive shake up needed surely?

Ian managed Glasgow White City when they came to Bristol in 1949, very young.

Just checked on the result again.. Still says Great Britain won.. Poland were second And Denmark third.. No mention of who beat who, and by how far, and how many times they did it in the qualifying races leading up to the Final... A Final which ended, Zmarzlik, Lambert, Bewley, Janowski... GB 5 - Poland 4... I suspect as the years go by and it passes into the midst of time it will still only say.. 2021 Speedway Of Nations 1st Great Britain 2nd Poland 3rd Denmark... How it all unfurled will be but a side issue...

Peter, Les and Neil....would have been something if both Phil and Stephen had also ridden for the "Aces"?

What is fanseat (out of interest)? I'm the same as you except I have Premier Sports instead of fanseat. Don't think I will bother with the stream (probably watch the football instead) since Tai is out. Would probably have got it if Cook etc were the replacement but not with Pearson on commentary and Harris riding.

No- i checked the PZM and Sportowefakty websites earlier- one thing i do know is that the Poles will not pay the ZL equivalent of £15 to watch it !!!- they will say stick it !!!!

This years team was written off by pretty much everyone early doors, it didn’t stop them winning the league.

Oh booohooooooooo!!!!! Wasn't misfortune....he misjudged the 'speed' of Smarzlik in front and panicked...own error not misfortune

Good post, plus Adam Ellis.

Why didn't I think to check the Shropshire Star Thanks for the info (and Badge)

Magic was Tragic all day, end of. Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap Tragic Janowski

It's not luck...it's Polish incompetence !

Is that a... Rew boy? He's far too good for the CL surely? And he's tied up in Polska, Denmark and (Sweden I think?) as far as I know?

Yes Doyle had a truly awful season, only 4th in Ekstraliga averages.

I think if you're pessimistic and you're right with a bad result, you can feel good to a point because you can say, " well I was right", and if the result goes like it did against Leicester you can post how pleased you are that you were wrong, win win situation for the middle aged man. I'm past middle age, unless I break the record for the oldest man ever, so don't know where that leaves me!

Firstly, I assume you mean Craig Cook but you don't have the gonads to say so. Secondly, GP superstar and many misdemeanours? When has Craig Cook claimed to be a superstar and when has he let down GB when competing for or representing them? As usual, lets make up a story based on prejudice and stupidity! If you were in anyway genuinely interested you would have been able to discover that the GB management, as in previous years, asked riders who wanted to compete in Grand Prix qualifiers, ride abroad, etc, etc, for season 2021. Some riders like Chris Harris said he'd be willing, Craig Cook decided his days of travelling abroad were over as he wanted more time with his family. A squad of riders were selected including U21s to ride for and represent GB. It is only right and fair that the riders named in the GB squad should be selected. Craig is better around Glasgow than Adam Ellis and Chris Harris but it would be unfair to ask squad members to forego their place, this is assuming that Craig would even want to do it, which I doubt.

Dmitri Bergé has left Masarna and joined Lejonen.

I think I read that some Eurosport channels in Europe will carry the GPS live but this was not the case in the U.K. hence Discovery+. I believe it may have been in a article in Speedway Star a couple of weeks back.

Day 1 all races https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlZm6n-XGK0 Day 2 all races https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYWLsgcBx2U

How does Mark Lemon keep getting these team manager gigs? He is clueless. Jack Holder should have been brought in today.

Lambert has been taking the best gate every time!

There is a time and place to say it, then wasn’t it IMHO. we will have to agree to disagree.

Can’t say I was complaining when it was pulled back but I’m certainly of the view that as long as you aren’t rolling and you gamble and get a flyer without touching the tapes then good luck to you.

I personally heard Ivan expand on this very concept: "you have the white line on the left and the fence on your right and you ride on the bit in the middle" , he was a bit of card was Ivan when he let his hair down. Not every promotion is fortunate to begin with a clean sheet of paper, track building-wise, and good luck to those who are, it's very much a case of making the best out of what you have. IMO for every 'Berwick', big & fast, the needs to be a 'Wolves', tight & techncial, makes speedway more interesting. We can discuss 'best races at ABC & XYZ tracks' to our heart's content (and we do) but even wearing 2 pairs of rose-tinted shades, you can get great & ordinary racing on each and every track.....

Naturally I thoroughly approve of this issue and highly reccomend Backtrack anyway, it's a great, informative & enjoyable read....

Dackarna v Smederna final 1st leg Tuesday October 5th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL6K9kGGWuA Smederna v Dackarna final 2nd leg Wednesday October 6th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-vGdBH6Z2k