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Can’t believe Germany didn’t let Ukraine get a 7-2 there, liz truss will be furious

Tonight wolves were at home to Kings Lynn, I live 2 miles from the track, I had nothing else to do, I was brought up a wolves fan, while I think it’s too expensive in general money is not an issue for me, I am speedways greatest fan, always have been and yet I didn’t want to go tonight,It just didn’t grab my attention enough to attend, I watched it on tv but that didn’t really stop me going either and I missed the first 3 heats as I was watching something else, it’s just not grabbing me, I can’t affiliate with a team of mercenaries who parade as my team, there is no point in having a league with teams that are filled with riders that ride for someone else, I know I am sounding like a broken record but if the sport can’t grab someone like me what chance does it have for a new audience, when I watch British speedway now I feel like I’m watching something else, on track speedway is full of bad annoying habits like starting offences, gardening, adjusting chains etc after a restart, it’s not needed it’s habit and annoying habit at that,

Just aswell moxy never had a season ticket or the burger van might have literally been flame grilled

I would not be happy if I was an Oxford supporter and have paid good money to go and watch this. I hope there is a proper inquiry into why Barker was suddenly unfit and the results published. All that way from Plymouth , and their supporters are left short changed. Another example of our shambolic sport in this country.

I've been to all 3 in a working capacity. Isn't it amazing what European funding can do?!

I think they just ran out of gas. I'll get me coat...

Think that's mischief from one unreliable mischief maker at your Club. Kennetts first love is Grass Track and pretty sure when he is anywhere near fit to return he'd be entered in a Grass Meeting somewhere. Until he is I'd say safe to assume he is not fit.

Think you got one there Iain.

Or may be because the fans want to see the best riders in the world in action ??? I have to disagree once again....not wanting to sound 'confrontational'...(it's just opinions...) As a spectacle, Cardiff is nowhere near as good as it used to be.....from the pre-match build up, to the presentation and so on.... As for the racing ? obviously that will depend on the surface that's prepared....

https://britishspeedway.co.uk/results-scorers/mondays-results-8/ Did Peterborough not notice the extra Zagar? Chris Harris will be disappointed he didn't come up with that idea!

Personally, I don't think I will ever go to a match that is on Eurosport. Not because of any need to save the money, but they do seem to make it drag out. Much rather record it, start watching around 9pm and fast forward all the boring bits.

As expected an easy win but made easier with Neilsen and Morris both withdrawing. Well done to Ben Cook on his first heat 15 and a paid 16 haul. Really is scoring well down at reserve. Hopefully Birmingham will be able to put out a more competitive team on Friday night. Don’t want to watch a rout.

It’s not. I’m sure all will be revealed soon. interesting few days ahead

You are maybe best off staying quiet until it,s explained why barker withdrew.

I could cry

Whether it's the League or the League Cup, the winners get sod all ...

Discovery are going to need some deep pockets to cover their errors. BSI found out the hard way that you need a home nation for every round of the SON . Add to this the ticket fiasco over Cardiff and their romantic hopes of an Oceania GP this year , not a great start

If crowd levels dictate Next years son qualifiers will be held at buxton

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I still follow every result here, Poland, Sweden, Denmark and further afield and usually grab the star if there's something about a rider I like to watch. Myself and the old man will always do Cardiff as it's only 5 mins down the road, my brother and uncle also come who haven't been regularly since the 80s! Main reason for not attending regularly now is owners closing tracks chasing money, Newport, Somerset etc and no Swindon. Not for want of trying, just lack of availability and time to travel 2/3 hours each way. Last time we took my brother to Somerset to see a rider who was guesting that we'd been raving about we got there and the BSPA had ruled him out last minute and it hadn't been made public...safe to say he hasn't been bothered outside of a GP since!

Speedway for me was always about the team aspect and the individuality very much secondary. It was brilliant having a star man (Hans) who one could support on an individual front but team ethics (which he was a great advocate of) was paramount in my opinion.

Most people attending Cardiff are possibly making their first speedway visit this year, possibly many because they're disillusioned at the state of club speedway, and because it's a one-off occasion. If club racing served the sport as it once did, and teams contained riders that fans felt were part of them, I believe Cardiff wouldn't be half full.

Gary May is very clever, knows the tricks of the trade, may be he'll pull a replacement for Kennett out of the hat once he knows that Andersen / MPT and Gilkes are fit. That would well and truly upset the applecart! Bowtell has developed in to an excellent second string since going there, they could still end up with 4 heat leaders and Bowtell in the top 5 and Gilkes at reserve with a 2 pointer at 7.

You are right in what you say. The biggest attended meetings were often individual events. But, as you also say, it was only because the riders in these meetings were some from your team that you usually went. You had favourites from your team, and their being in meetings often made you travel for miles to support them. For example, as a kid, I recall booking tickets for the 1978 world final but then was left feeling empty because Collins and Morton were ko'd at the last round, the British Final. I still went and enjoyed it, but most of the people there at Wembley were only in attendance because their club men had qualified.

Surely one of speedway's biggest problems is that 90% of us do remember Wally Loak's tapes, 'King Cinder', Don Clarke and Graham Baker

I think it depends on how the meeting is covered. I always prefer to watch a match live, but there is a lot of time to fill in. Sky and BT used to cover the spaces well, but meetings do seem to drag on more on Eurosport. I'm not sure if that's due to less interesting coverage or the fact that there are only six teams in league and I don't have one that I support any more.

What saddens me is that there are people on here who won't have a clue what we're on about! They won't know anything about 'King Cinder'. They don't know Graham Baker, let alone Don Clarke. They won't remember, "Make it a Date, Friday at Eight!" Sigh...

Spot on! And the sport could prosper if either was achieved

What else is October for if not the final of the Spring trophy

Wow humble pie being eaten here I no we only got a draw but seeing our lineup before hand I’d of snapped your hand off barker was imperious again and Oxford certainly played there part very sporting when riders fell off and they cleared the track for race to continue when they weren’t in winning positions well done Oxford good meeting

I think Speedway is definitely split down the middle with fans of a team and fans of the sport. Team fans want continuity of riders, a bond with the club and a feeling of belonging. Sport fans want entertainment, close matches a little controversy and excitement. Rarely these days do either group get anything close to what they desire and hence the mess the sport is in.

Look on the bright side. It means it's half full.

Yeah you're probably right. Don't hold out much hope. I paid for two aswell. Maybe I'll go to his farm shop order loads of stuff and just walk out with it and tell him to knock it off what he owes me. Ha ha.

Andžejs Ļebedevs will replace him

Indeed

Too much strain on his injured shoulder from last nights rides I guess. Can't do irr either so reserves have to take his rides.Plymouth must have run over loads of black cats in Devon!!! (Did someone mention karma?) And now Bowtell in ambulance with damaged knee after heat 1 stoppage and now withdrawn. Nb its started to spit with rain.

I don't see why they should, play offs out of the question and possibly our last season.

Why does a rider have to fall off for another rider to be excluded for foul riding.

go back a few days and today, tomorrow and friday`s are there.

Told you

For me simply because the "sports followers" have dwindled away so much... If there is 40,000 at Cardiff this year then that is quite likely to be not too far off 4 times the amount who now attend UK speedway each week, if each team rode one meeting, (meaning 3 meetings in Div 1 and 5/6 in Div 2).... When Wembley could get 100,000 crowds, Belle Vue for example alone could deliver 23,000 fans for a home meeting... And there were over 30 other clubs around the country.. The biggest and most pertinent question to be asked should really be this... Why will so many of that 40,000 who attend this year (the vast majority being UK based and passionate Speedway fans), not attend domestic Speedway regularly, or even maybe at all, this season? Or next? Or the year after? etc etc etc? That question wont be asked though... Even though around 40,000 UK based, passionate Speedway fans will all be in the same location, and all at the same time.. What a perfect opportunity for a bit of market research and feedback for any forward thinking organisation to help them improve their own business...!!

So why has Cardiff never sold out?

Yes rides for Redcar and is an asset

It'd be like saying most people attending Cardiff this year will be because Max Fricke and Jason Doyle (plus British Championship qualifier) are riding in it.

The amount of time Kerr has spent with Lynn he still consistently struggles tho I guess TJ does too, jakobsen at reserve would make much more sense in my opinion

Is anybody really that bothered ?

There’s been countless other times Peterborough have struggled… 2019, 2008 when we had all the trouble with Colin Horton leaving and all that, I’m specifically saying when people say I’d rather watch my team lose every week and have a team than no team at all. I’m saying that’s a comment I find just abit pointless because it isn’t really plausible. Crowds would drop off massively therefore leading too the closure so anyone who says that sort of thing isn’t really thinking long term with a comment like that

Not sure much can be done given riders will be used to the money that two jobs bring, and Div 2 promoters wouldnt want to reduce their offer.. And. Lets be honest, it wont make much (any?) difference with regards to any of the league's kudos or status, given the operating model of sharing riders adhoc on a daily basis will always be in situ.. You can have 100 riders for 6 teams but they will still borrow and share the HL's around each evening when one is missing so will always therefore devalue the competitions... Therefore you might as well just keep things the way they are and let the riders earn as much as they can, which is ultimately the main benefit the sport delivers by being ran in the UK.. And of course. Bomber turning up here and there is never a bad thing when you are after a value for money night out at the Speedway..

Another promoter not interested in listening to the concerns of the sports customers.

I've just made this up for you this morning. Ekstraliga clubs are pinned with blue pins, eWinner 1 clubs with red pins, and 2 liga clubs with yellow pins. A couple of the stadiums aren't in Poland - but I included them as their teams race in the Polish leagues. https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1XaNg7869MpmqJ-w9Q6vqYwcBuweLYmI&usp=sharing