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Some people can not help themselves. I think Plymouth have called off about 3 meetings the day before to save expense for riders, themselves and fans money and time. Guess what, they have been proved correct every single time. I personally remember at least three times this approach would have saved me time and money. One to Edinburgh another to Middlesbrough and one to Ipswich following the Pirates. With regard to the other moans re Plymouth how do people think they can replace injured riders or one being suspended. Not one single rider is in the team from the original team for several meetings. No 1 Edward Kennett. Signed long before start of season and crashed in first meeting causing big damage to existing injury. They have tried to sign a replacement but have been blocked each time No 2 Alfie Bowtell _ injured at Birmingham and could be out for the season. No 3 Ben Barker - now suspended awaiting hearing. No 4 Michael Palm-Toft - Tried coming back after that very bad crash at Poole . Will he be back this season No 5 Hans Anderson - Crashed at Sheffield and was out for a few weeks No 6 - Dan Gilles - crashed heavy at Scunthorpe on 29th April still out and could be for the rest of season No 7 Henry Atkins - walked out on cub for some reason. Try replacing these riders with the lack of riders in this country and restrictions for riders riding in other countries. Has anyone else heard of such bad luck. Yet the fans have still backed the team, crowds do not seemed to have dropped and are very good. This sows their commitment to the team, manager and promoters.

Every rider is given a list of banned drugs when they are issued with their licences and few cannot be aware of what is and is not permitted. Very few prescription drugs are banned, only those that are believed to affect performance, often through making riders fearless or indeed reckless. I very much doubt that there are many riders “who in extreme pain and under pressure to ride have taken a prescription drug” that would be in breach of the rules. Indeed, I recall Shane Parker back in 2005 riding with a recently broken collar bone saying he was unwilling to take any pain killers for fear of breaching the anti-doping rules. Drug testing at UK speedway meetings is carried out regularly and independently and it is testimony to the “clean” nature of the sport, possibly fuelled by a fear of being banned, that few are caught. I would expect that the same systems operate in other countries which have caught very few over the years either. Your comment that “Whatever the outcome the Sport needs MORE tests and more education and not just gloat that they have caught one and then sit back and do naff all for another 3-4 years.” is, in my view, very wide of what happens. Riders ARE educated and tests are already frequent. I have no inside knowledge about the current case but am aware that there are clear procedures for the hearing that will take place and these are laid down in section 018.5 of the 2022 SCB Regulations. Until that takes place and a decision made, it would be pointless to speculate further.

Apparently it is. Starke and King for Ipswich.Hawkins says they use the months averages a month prior to the event that is why they can use Starke as he was then 4th in their averages then. Lynn are allowed to use Klindt even though he wasn't in the averages last month. Sheffield are using Howarth even though he was 5th in Sheffields average last month.Although with releasing Cook and the injury to Ellis that only left Musielak. So in reality now,it's pick who you want and not 2 out of your top 4. Edit:Just having looked at the previous events in July Wolves used Worrall at Lynn,he was 5th in their averages the previous month and Peterborough used Nicholls at Wolves,he was 5th in their averages the previous month. So who is telling the truth,seems like the same old thing is happening here and it is do as you like and carry on.

If it was not technology you would not be posting on here, now.

Halifax Dukes Captain Eric Boothroyd has passed away in hospital after a heart attack. Ninety five years old a great rider and team captain for the Dukes. R.I.P Eric

Carl Johnson on the local radio on Monday night sounded quite positive about the future. Should be announcement soon. He reckons they have two potential sites that have been found, they want to build something that can be used all year round and have some of the events that used to be at the showground moved to one of these new sites. Obviously will need help with funding from the council and local businesses but fingered crossed this isn’t the end of speedway in Peterborough

by all accounts they got gazumped on Lawson and Ellis (short term) refused another rider from Denmark who rides PL only and tried about a dozen other options. If other accountsare correct Bowtell and Gilkes are out for the season and MPT still in considerable pain. Barker has a hearing in September (very vague so probably the 30th) and as for Kennett, well believe who you want to but its a long term injury and the fact he's not been spotted in a grass field all season where he could earn good money I think proves conclusively that he ain't fit to race. So how long do you wait for or should they have chucked in the license for the season, got a whopping fine, pissed off a loyal and growing fan base and undone a lot of good work over 4-5 years. Pretty sure Play off cut off will be 31st August based on all the scheduled fixtures unless the next 2 weeks are a complete wash out. As a Lakeside fan you should be only too well aware of what happens when fixtures are delayed and backed and crammed in to Autumn.

It sounds a lot like pick whoever is prepared to do it.

So the three teams in the final have worked out a way more of their supporters can see part of the final, and i would imagine make more money out the final as well think these three teams need to be in charge of how the league is run

I was hooked form the very first meeting that I attended...everything about it! Standing on the terraces with fellow enthusiats and chewing the fact/arguing made it a great night out! Never bothered me personally the gaps between races...that's when we all became an 'expert' Team Manager! Don't go along with gimmicks which is what the general public with their short attention span now seem to expect. I attended two American Football matches at Wembley and I found all the razzmatazz all a bit tedious and it struck me that was what the fans were more interested in. The Mexican Wave was in vogue then and the spectators appeared to take more notice of that rather than what taking place on the pitch. Speedway when presented right takes some beating but, alas, those in control thru' years of mismanagement have allowed it become a pale shadow of its former glorious self!

Just wondering what all the kids starting out in the sport think about all the negativity regarding the Cardiff GP. I can't believe there isn't one young British rider who hasn't dreamt about riding in Cardiff in a GP (and perhaps the Polish Extraliga as well) The Stadium has a "wow" factor about it which Belle Vue (and no other Stadium in the UK) despite being one of the best racetracks in the world sadly doesn't. By all means have a 2nd British GP elsewhere but leave Cardiff alone.

Are 't all speedway meetings fundamentally pointless?

Good to see josh recovered from his injury from last week !!!!

Then. Gives Charles 2 rides in a row using him as a tac sub

11750 capacity?

What a daft idea to give whistles out.

Good crowd of over 3000 at the Pairs

Friend at stadium says it is easing off now Or maybe not!

To me there looks like there's space to widen the straights by a couple of meters(and still have the FIM 2meter buffer zone), and maybe bring the curb in a little on the bends. The dimensions would be closer to Warsaw which generally produces better racing. The Track was like a return to the early days of Cardiff but they had got the track largely right for the last 10 years or so. I think its a good thing the GP is in September next year as there is far less chance of a heat wave, as I believe that is what made the track prep difficult. If this is the case maybe Ole Olsen could release a statement to say something similar as it might reassure fans.

No it`s not -it`s head to head 2 matches then 2 in `SF 2 in final

Jepsen Jensen in for huckenbech. Any complaints about that...

The BSPL link to the Tigers website has the ".org" suffix and this is the root of the problem. You get through ok using ".co.uk". This has been pointed out to the promotion a few times.

I really hope it's the NL Cup final. Give these lads a prime date for a big meeting instead of the usual (being dumped till the end of the season)!

Average about 5’ 7 sorry no official figure out yet as far as I know

Don’t think the track will need watering. Thundering in Parkstone and heavy rain at the moment.

Yes we a nuts.

It has but worth repeating- 2 new mini leagues will be created with the 3 winners in one and the 3 losers in the other - these will be on match points and then race points. best loser (4) goes through to meet no 1 in the winners table and 2 v 3 in the winners table completes the semi`s.(over 2 legs)

Agreed. The problem is that it is the same three teams most of the time so Leics, Glasgow and Poole will see plenty of action and if the weather turns fixture congestion, but the likes of Birmingham, Berwick and (unless they scrape 6th for a play- off place) Scunthorpe are almost over.

Same here. In Swindon 70 mile round trip, too risky.

...but he's scheduled to ride at Oxford this evening!!

Think Doyle has more important "fish to fry" in Poland on Friday.

This was a decent event up until now. Tomorrow's teams are taking the p1ss and devalues the whole tournament. I have no issue with teams using who they want in their teams, but why no Doyle, Fricke, Zagar....and I'm not really sure why Lynn have gone for Lawson over Pickers as I'd have thought he was a deffo round his old track. Have the top teams been told to field substandard teams to even things up before the final round? No wonder there has been no promotion of this event. British Speedway doing its best to screw things up yet again

Jog on mate, we don't give a flying **** what you think.

No matter how many legitimate reasons there may be for such attendance … when does it cease to be financially viable ?

What would you have done then when you have 1 fit rider ?

Yeah cos that is what happened!

That`s because of the drifts

The other issue in regards to Eddie Kennet is not actually a problem to have with Plymouth but more with the BSPA rules. What people actually forget is that We were the first team to sort our number one out before Poole came in and took him over the winter. this left very few riders to fill a number one slot. With this in mind 12 riders were tried to save signed but due to Visas and BSPA committee Plymouth were not allowed. The reality is the BSPA is going to die a death whilst people with club first interests as apposed to British speedway first interests run the show. How I’m any sport/social element where there is competition can you have some selected group of teams creating the rules that are ultimately going to benefit themselves over the sport.

Fairly sure he's still living in Bydgoszcz, as he has done since his wife finished University in St Petersburg years ago. Both him and Artem stay there with their families and have Polish passports. What they didn't have at the start of this year was a polish license, which is what made them different from Gleb.

A good thing really as it will give Eddie Kennett another week to gain full fitness .

Enough of the snooker puns, time to give it a rest.

Aggregate points seriously favour the technical tracks. Lets keep it simple 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw And let’s scrap tactical’s as well Just keep Golden heats for aggregate ties

2 Tickets...from a very kind Swindon fan who couldn't go..FREE..in the V.I.P. section..would have been £180! Food and drink in stadium..£25 Programme..£10 Parking park n ride County Hall.£10 Fuel..£30..Swindon 160 mile round-trip..3.25 hours there..2.00 return. 75 quid..bargain!!!

I say this as someone who has lived in London and has great affection for the place. Wembley (the area) is a sh**hole and the stadium is soulless. It's a place trading on its name and very little else. Its not even the best venue in North London, never mind the UK.

Well, so much to say, and most of it bad. Most of it has already been said, so I won’t re-tread over old ground in great detail but at least reading most of the posts on here during SGP2 kept me entertained more than anything going on inside the stadium. Getting in was not as bad as I feared it may have been so that was a bonus The crowd was clearly very disappointing, I would say the lowest ever at Cardiff The reasons behind that are probably many and have already been discussed but I’ll throw in the absence of the World Champ + Emil and Bartek being the runaway leader making it less of a sporting event. It’s clear that different people go for different reasons, I think it’s fair to say the Speedway purist did not enjoy Saturday night, for me I enjoyed it as an event with the icing on the cake seeing Dan win the thing but that was about the only thing I enjoyed about it, maybe it was the heat and/or the lack of oxygen inside the arena but I did feel a bit “funny” while I was in the stadium. I’ve been to every GP at Cardiff, the track has always been a bit dodgy, but has steadily got better over the years, Saturday night took us back 20 years. Whether it’s the calibre of rider competing today I don’t know? I think Phil Morris has come in for a lot of unfair criticism, as far as I am aware he’s responsible for the running of the Speedway meeting, timings, track grading, watering etc. Discovery Events seem to have subbed this whole event out, the actual GP itself to Paul Bellamy’s company and he in turn the track to Ole Olsen’s track laying company, there are too many fingers in the pie. You’d hope there’s some pretty high-level meetings going on this morning. Sunday’s meeting was very much an after the Lord Mayors show affair, I wandered in, didn’t even have to show my ticket and although a great experiment to hold the SGP2 at the same venue as the SGP, I think it was a failed experiment and I doubt we’ll see it again. As for the debate on whether the event should stay at the Principality, absolutely YES! It’s a no brainer, look at where it’s come from, Hackney to Coventry to Cardiff, that’s not to say I wouldn’t want to also see one at the NSS. You look at the demographic in the Cardiff crowd and it’s very different to that you see at a league meeting. It’s more akin to a Polish Crowd (I know a lot of them are) but this is exactly the demographic Speedway in this country needs to attract. I thought the whole presentation of the event on Saturday was just lacking, no innovation which there has always been in previous years at Cardiff... even the Champions Parade before the meeting was a half arsed affair and the much trumpeted (get your cameras ready!) light show at the start, reminded me of Telford! Finally, what a great result for British Speedway with Super Dan winning the event, it washed away much of the disappointment with the rest of the event. The lad should be a Superstar and you can easily see him going on to dominate the series in the years to come. I fear Tai’s days as a contender are over, I hope not, but he’s not really shown anything for a few years now, he seems to spend a lot of his time appearing to try and be cool and it’s all a bit of an act, where as Dan is the real deal and is genuinely cool. It’s just a shame that if you do a Google search for Dan Bewley his victory barely gets a mention and even Ronnie O’Sullivan’s attendance pops up in the results… and he very much seems contractually obliged to be there! All in all, it was generally rubbish but finished brilliantly... see you next year, in fact I've just bought my ticket, £22.50

Absolutely. If it's NOT performance enhancing, it is NOT being used to gain an unfair undvantage, so it cannot be considered cheating. It's just f*cking stupidity!

What we could do is sell tickets for the price of a McDonalds meal and give out a few freebies and tell the media it was a sell out. We should also promote British speedway as being the same standard as the Polish Extraliga and if anyone dares say any different we call them uneducated ignorant oinks. Seemed to work well for the Women's Euro's