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Not really comparable, Poland have proper teams their fans can identify with... we don't know who's going to turn up from one week to the next!

I’m sure this will be a quiet thread! Fixture now confirmed. Weather forecast looks abysmal for the South and South West next week which won’t help. No idea on the team or any guess for us Gladiators. Poole going to look for a guest for Worrall or operate R/R? Unfortunately I feel this has come at the worst time with Hans now also out. Leaves just Morley, Complin and Coles currently fit and available. I’m sure other people will find this as a great cause of humour but as a Gladiator fan, I’ve found this season deeply frustrating with our injury issues. Personally speaking, I’d rather have our own riders to support than constantly changing guests every meeting but that was the hand we were dealt. It’s still been a great season for the club despite all the trials and tribulations. We shall kick on in 2023 I’m sure. Poole should be too strong, probably over both legs. Hopefully we can get two big crowds for these meetings.

Plymouth still have a good chance with their little track. We got hammered there earlier this year. And Plymouth scraped a draw at Poole. So clearly Plymouth favourites to go through and it will take an almost impossible effort from Pirates to make it to the semis. Can they do it against all the odds?

Plymouth shouldn't have needed the BSPL to point out why that is the right thing to do....

Poland are running aProfessional Sport in aProfessional manner.That’s the difference.

Oh here we go. The Forum Trolls / Bullies now turn their attention to Glasgow and more specifically one of the best british riders of his generation with innuendo and queries about why he is not riding. The "form / mantra" of these trolls is clear. That's why people as "why are Poole so hated" For the easily provable record Craig Cook has suffered a series of high speed crashes in recent months, has probably come back too soon from some of them and in almost all cases has been an innocent victim. Its bad enough at the comments made and some of the inferences, winks and nods. When the guy also has well documented and well know mental health issues about which he has been very honest, it really does make you realise how desperately sad these trolls are. People in glass houses really should not throw pebbles and stones, you never know a bloody great boulder may land on you at any time! Behave! Leave the guy alone. He's beaten up physically and taking time out to recover, hopefully to smash the daylights out of Poole where it matters on the track with big points.

You really need to grow up and stop playing games, if you want to actually say what you are alluding to then do it otherwise keep quiet.

Lol a bit over the top, all I've seen is will he back and some one asking how bad his injuries are and someone saying not a clue

Full strength would include Kennett.

It's just common sense tbf.

They win at full strength

Plymouth absolutely decimated by injuries and IMO they have no chance over two legs which is a great pity, would have been a great tie with full strength teams.

So Plymouth been strongarmed into holding a meeting by the bspl of whom their opponents promoter is on the board

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The only person trolling is you lol. Getting worse than Trackrat haha.

Probably in the best interests of the sport klindt should be allowed to guest for poole

The top one Bagpuss.The next two are a typical speedway fans conspiracy theories of what happens in speedway.

Unfortunately despite all the good ideas and suggestions put forward on this topic, no one in authority is listening nor will those in charge take a inward look at what they are dong to the sport. None so blind as those who do not want to see comes to mind. Riders want to earn an annual salary in a six months season while the rest of the population has to work twelve months. (If they have winter jobs are the pay rates demanded by the riders over ambitious) They have expensive equipment that is not robust enough to cater with the work that it is required of it hence the regular expensive overhaul after a few races that adds to the cost. Most of the tracks in operation today were not built for today’s machines and on the subject of tracks, the entry point in terms of costs for new tracks, in order to cater for the bikes and safety aspect etc., is now so high and even if you could find the land who in their right mind would invest in a project where the business model is dictated by third parties who have put nothing into the new track and will basically tell you when you can open and run meetings unless you operate outside the current set up and follow the IOW. The sport is not a joke, it is some of the parties involved from riders to track owners and as has been said before, as long as the punters turn up no one is going to take on board the possibility that trying something new might just be better option rather then sticking with the current format with dwindling support on the terraces. Today people are rarely prepared to wait yet it can take two plus hours to run 15 minutes of racing. Younger people lose the will to live whilst waiting for the next heat to be run and if they do get hooked, how often is the team made up of guests and Mr R/R. Nothing will change just fewer and fewer people bothering to go to a track and the way the cost of living is going speedway however good it can be will be way down the list of spending and many will consider that it is not value for money if attending a live meeting.

Just a heads up in case you're not seen it around already, but Kelvin Tatum has a brand new podcast of his own and is available now! First guest is Dan Bewley, and we talk with Dan for just over an hour about all sorts. If you click this link it will take you to whichever app you choose >> TATUM TALKS PODCAST (Apple, Amazon & Spotify are defo working, Google Podcasts can be hit & miss but that's their end not ours!) Subscribe on whatever app you use and you won't miss anything. There is also a "Short Version" 20 mins or so on YouTube, but for the full goods you need to listen to the podcast..! The idea is to just be able to talk for longer than is allowed for TV, and for Kelv to be able to explain further what happened in various incidents, and to have time to give his opinion and reflect on the big events he's been to. The plan is to do them as and when we can really, probably around GPs and the playoffs but we'll always make sure we have a quality guest as we have with Dan! Hope you enjoy it!

I still fancy Lublin to come through. Cierniak won't score Zero at home and Michelsen if fitter will score more than 6.

Yet another podcast ,same old same old, unless you’re going to be controversial and have on controversial guests we seen and heard it all before,,quite frankly I’m bored at hearing about getting the “right set up “ not for me I’m afraid and it’s not a dig at Dan or kelvin

Nice to see Andy Smith being interviewed. Was a real top Brit in his day. How many consecutive British finals? And he kept qualifying for GP’s if I remember!

It’s just another further point for speedway that the board who run the show need to be independent. is it the correct thing to move the meeting, as a Poole fan yes as a Plymouth fan no, that’s life and one was always going to be upset. is it in all honesty is in the best interests of speedway having one team decimated by injuries made to ride ?! Of course it’s not. regardless of what people say Poole wanted it early so they could take advantage of plymouths injuries and losses who wouldn’t. plymouth wanted it later to give themselves a chance to run with the team they assembled and make it competitive and a good watch for fans of both clubs but also neutrals. any speedway fan or someone with the interests of speedway above the interest of any team should have wanted this match to be ran at a later date to make it competitive. im sure Poole fans will argue but i don’t really see the argument IF you put speedways interest first and not Pooles interest.

Doesn't matter if Plymouth get a lead - no T/S in two legged matches

So common sense was used and the first leg of the Playoff Quarter Final takes place on Tuesday at Plymouth. The delaying tactics trying to be used by Plymouth failed to impress the Management Committee who stated that Plymouth Meeting with Glasgow could no wait and that the Playoffs, rightly, take precedence.  Poole are clearly concerned that Steve Worrall is injured and might not be fir to ride either meeting. Whether we go for a guest or R/R is open to debate. There is limited choice due to the playoff rules and I would just go with R/R. It weakens us but the options are Arnio, Flint, Batchelor, Sedgmen, (who I think has returned to Australia) Etheridge, Wells, (who has now retired) Plymouth are without Eddie Kennett, who might have a late fitness test (joke) Barker, and Andersen, who is out with concussion. Harris and Nicholls guesting? Wouldn’t surprise me and will certainly make Plymouth a strong team. Current forecast is for sunshine and a risk of light showers being blown through on a stiff breeze. No real risk of a rainoff. For the return, I believe Scott Nicholls could guest for Steve Worrall with the extra 5% available. Thoughts?

No Passing? So you missed Musielak pass Flint in heat 1 or Heat 4 Holder passing Flint 0r Becker passing Sedgmen in heat 7 or Masters getting by after a tussle with Mountain in Heat 9 or Heat 10 when gated on 5 - 1, only for Becker and Douglas to get by Kerr. or Heat 13 Holder's pass on Morris or Heat 14 Douglas pass on Howarth I admit I have seen better and more exciting meetings at Sheffield this season, but to claim that there was no passing is simply not true.

Could be trackprat

Oh absolutely I’m not disagreeing with that, but like others have mentioned, we’ve been fobbed off with poor guests pretty much all season so it’s no wonder, can’t exactly have a go at the guests either, lambert shouldn’t be coming in and riding at 3 that’s ridiculous

This sounds like domestic abuse... you should be ashamed of yourself!

So ... who do you suggest they chose? Andersen 4.96 and Ostergaard 4.87 ...

Still got that dislike for Poole into the post.!!

Really????? After a challenging 48 hours of weather. At 6:30 the promotion had the track in a condition that Tom Brennan confirms all were happy to ride. The referee then, against the wishes of the promotion, instructed, unnecessary, unwarranted, ill judged remedial works that rendered the track, arguably unsafe.He then took the decision not to allow Richie to test the track and called off the meeting. The Call Off was entirely caused by the Referee. Mark has every right to be angry. He should be reimbursed for all losses incurred, and the league cut-off date should be extended to include the running of this meeting.

What do you mean it's falling apart? Is the terracing dangerous? If it's OK for stock car fans it's OK for us isn't it?

At least both legs would be on a proper race track

2 cracking semi-final 1st leg matches in prospect tomorrow Gorzow v Czestochowa start time 5pm UK time Eleven Sport 1 Torun v Lublin start time 7.30pm UK time Canal + Sport 5 Racecards Gorzow v Czestochowa https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/review?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:4352bc8a-1cd1-4483-94da-3fcd3e269a69 Torun v Lublin https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/review?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:446a5292-bec3-44a2-a9f0-9e77046dfc34 Links Gorzow v Czestochowa http://kergel.ucoz.lv/index/live_stream_2/0-12?fbclid=IwAR2eL0VtZngKO7mWxtVxD6VmjVlUNOdM89lON8Sy-AcWVpETDr4TLLAnh68 http://www.maniaki.tv/st1 http://www.drhtv.com.pl/drhtv-1.html https://livetvon.click/embed/stream-71.php http://assia24.com/live/auttv/?lang=pl Torun v Lublin http://kergel.ucoz.lv/index/live_stream_2/0-12?fbclid=IwAR2eL0VtZngKO7mWxtVxD6VmjVlUNOdM89lON8Sy-AcWVpETDr4TLLAnh68 http://www.maniak.tv/mk7 https://livetvon.click/embed/stream-75.php http://assia24.com/live/mix-sport6/?lang=pl

Would have liked to have seen the four team tournament back rather than the Jubilee Cup.

Looks good enough for the stock cars.

We quite often see riders disqualified following a crash when nobody is really at fault but the rules say somebody has to go. Maybe an alternative would be to start the rider/s at fault from a penalty line as they do in flat track. Would keep 4 riders in the race and make for more entertainment than a 3 rider race. Could even go the whole flat track route where from the second lap on any crash sees the riders line up slightly staggered in the order they were when the race was stopped and the culprit 30 yards past the back rider.

There’s no denying Plymouth have been stuffed with injuries. No team could expect to challenge for the title with the bad luck they have had. My guess is that Nicholls will be riding for them on Tuesday along with another guest (perhaps R Worrall?) and RR. Morley and Coles at reserve are very decent. But really, if Poole don’t make it through to the semis it will be a very big shock.

See you fell in to the trap, hiding behind a username it’s easy to say stuff to try get reactions. just don’t react.

After all the recent events I thought it was a good incident free meeting. Some good races and another 3 points to add. We need to put some consistent performances in now if we are to have any chance of winning the playoffs. I think we are the under dogs at the moment with Ellis been injured.

Woryna did a job there holding up Zmarzlik. And Swidnicki nearly blew it final bend.

Fair enough. I guess you'd get in trouble with season ticket holders too. Obviously if it was an Ashfield match I'd be all in favour of holding it because the answer to "do you want to watch speedway at Ashfield" is, "yes", every time.

Lawson for Riss at Redcar is pretty even .IMO.

Seems a bit far fetched,if it was McGregor that was the ref though it is possible.

You can be investigated about an injury? Hmm, do you mean he's under observation?

That's simply supply and demand. An 'in demand' has always been able to do that as long as someone is willing to pay it. I go back 10 years to when the 2nd division introduced a voluntary pay cap at £55 a point. It took less than 2 hrs before some promotors had torn it up and offered more. If you look at Poland in the last 12 months, they have made significant changes to get pay rates approved and public, with them trying to rid the sport of it's under the counter cash payments. Promotors moan like F### about riders demanding this that and the other and in the same breath, they go and pay it. If someone offered you more money for your job, would you consider it?

Think it was Plymouth where they set fire to the straw while trying to dry the track.

Seems like the sport has entered a new era…. Exploding tyres (P boro), setting light to the tracks (Glasgow) added the the reasons I stopped going endless delays and teams of gusts and r/r , my only surprise is that there are people still paying £20 each plus travel to watch the smouldering embers of a once great sport. Nothing I read would tempt me back to watch.

Well can only say what a fantastic experience the Sgp 3 was full on gp treatment for all riders if they aren't inspired by it all they never will be .